Spider Cocoon?

drherbalist

Member
Hey, I spotted this half-sphered object on one of my stems just below the flowers. At first I thought that the sun maybe heated up some THC and dripped a little. But when I picked it off and examined the inside, it had egg like looking things in its inner walls and something tiny moving (couldn't make it out in the microscope). Here are the two pics I have available. Oh and when I squished it, a brownish clear matter oozed out. I've seen this before, just never got to taking photos to ask. Any suggestions? :confused:





Thanks in advance!
~Doc
 

anomolies

Well-Known Member
spider cocoons are white and silkspun, so definitely not.

Thinking it's a Scale (pest). Never seen one in person though. What's the actual size of that thing? looks huge in comparison to the stem.

Are there more of these? Should get rid of them, they suck juices from your plant.

What are those tiny black dots on the stem? Are they live?

Pic for comparison.. there's like 8,000 species though, and they all look different. The actual insect is underneath the shell that they secrete to protect themselves.

scale-insect.jpg
 

drherbalist

Member
spider cocoons are white and silkspun, so definitely not.

Thinking it's a Scale (pest). Never seen one in person though. What's the actual size of that thing? looks huge in comparison to the stem.

Are there more of these? Should get rid of them, they suck juices from your plant.

What are those tiny black dots on the stem? Are they live?

Pic for comparison.. there's like 8,000 species though, and they all look different. The actual insect is underneath the shell that they secrete to protect themselves.

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Here's a link to a micro video I took in which you can see something moving around on the inside as well as what appears to be eggs? (towards the end). I hope this helps you to help me :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQjT9IFck-4
 

anomolies

Well-Known Member
it's an alien! run for your life!

damn.. now I really wanna know wtf that is... can you post on an insect forum and get back to us with the answer?
 

thalboy

Active Member
It is a scale:

Info from Icmag infirmary.

Scale (Outdoor Problem)

Scale can be found on stems, underside of branches, trunks, young trees or shrubs. They usally emerge from there eggs around March to Aug and make there homes on the plant. They pierce the cells and feed on the sap of the plant. After they have a place on your plant they devlop a very hard shell which protects them from other preadatory insects and chemical compounds to get rid of them. After they develop this hard back the secreation they drip attracts ants. Now since the ants travel over the scales thus dragging it all over your plant spreading the scale from one place to another on the plants. When the secreation falls on leaves it can make a type of mold called Sooty Mold which makes the leaves look dirty and black.


Pictures show Scale infestation:
(Photo Credit: Meddev)








Sooty MOLD

The problem with this type of fungi is that it attracts several types of sucking insects,like Aphids, Mealy Bugs, Thrips, and Whiteflies..This mold is so dark that it affects the plant by inhibiting the light from reaching its leaves which stops photosynthesis, which in turn makes the plant die.


Control

The waxy layer that is on scales protects them from insects and other pesticides. In order to get rid of them Use a horticultural oil to kill the adult populations throughout the year. If you can combine the oil with the insecticide, such as, Orthene, Sevin, or malathion it can almost wipe out the scale population along with the sooty mold it causes!Neem soil works very well too!

You can do a few things.. more if your not nearing the end of harvest..

1) take a pack of chewing tobacco, mix it with a gallon of water, let it brew for a day.. spray the plants down as needed.. if your a cigarette smoker no worries spray em down till harvest.. watch for mold..

2) take some safers natural soap, mix it with some water so its a soapy slippery mixture, soak em down.. the idea is to suffocate the bugs in the soapy bubbles..
 

anomolies

Well-Known Member
that's what I thought but the one he posted looks so bulgy and way bigger than the stem... sure it aint somethin else?
 

drherbalist

Member
Thalboy, thanks for the images, they really helped in identifying this stranger. So it appears to be a scale issue. I got another video of it under the microscope that shows what happens when you pop one of these things off the leaf....without squishing it this time :)

Scale being removed from cannabis leaf...with a surprise

So thank you and everyone else that pitched in to help ID this thing. I won't be trying to smoke it anytime soon...now that I know what it is.

Peace and much love!
 
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