South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg

I don't know allot about this man, but his story sounds amazing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25249520

95 years old, how many spent in a prison?

NoDrama said:

95 years old, how many spent in a prison?

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I read 27 years and that he refused his freedom early .

Nelson Mandela said:

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Reported as Deceased.

insid33 said:

I don't know allot about this man, but his story sounds amazing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25249520

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he was a marxist, a muderous thug, his wife ran the show while he was in lock-lock, and killed more blacks than they every did whitey, his "struggle" was about power and control, not freedom or liberation, unless you wish to use the "liberation" of marxism, which most would call dictatorship.

prison mellowed him, but he never can be anything but what he was, a left wing murderer with blood all over his hands.

Dr Kynes said:

he was a marxist, a muderous thug, his wife ran the show while he was in lock-lock, and killed more blacks than they every did whitey, his "struggle" was about power and control, not freedom or liberation, unless you wish to use the "liberation" of marxism, which most would call dictatorship.

prison mellowed him, but he never can be anything but what he was, a left wing murderer with blood all over his hands.

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Interesting, makes Obama seem like a choir boy.

I found this article which sheds much light on the man

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDAQFjAC&url=http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/12/nelson-mandela-media-fawns-though-marxist-terrorist/&ei=vfqhUtHYCofksASx7oDwDw&usg=AFQjCNE_2vTd-OU3ZVRsLg69wnnCIhE2RA

Oh look, kkkynes is trying to call someone a Marxist.

"We, the people of South Africa, declare for all our country and the world to know:
That South Africa belongs to all who live in it, black and white, and that no government can justly claim authority unless it is based on the will of the people" -Nelson Mandela

Dr Kynes said:

he was a marxist, a muderous thug, his wife ran the show while he was in lock-lock, and killed more blacks than they every did whitey, his "struggle" was about power and control, not freedom or liberation, unless you wish to use the "liberation" of marxism, which most would call dictatorship.

prison mellowed him, but he never can be anything but what he was, a left wing murderer with blood all over his hands.

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Miss KKKynes, you are undoubtedly racist.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/06/rick-santorum-compares-himself-to-nelson-mandela-fighting-against-the-apartheid-of-obamacare/

“Nelson Mandela just died,” O’Reilly said. “I don’t know if you’re aware. Ninety-five years old. Nelson Mandela — I spent some time in South Africa, he was a communist, this man. He was a communist. But he was a great man anyway. The sacrifices he made for his people were just stunning. But he was a communist. A great man, but a communist.”
“I would never attack Nelson Mandela,” O’Reilly continued. “I told Bishop Tutu, who’s like that too, but I told him ‘I respect you.’ Why can’t you guys in the Republican Party bring that to the forum?”

abandonconflict said:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/06/rick-santorum-compares-himself-to-nelson-mandela-fighting-against-the-apartheid-of-obamacare/

“Nelson Mandela just died,” O’Reilly said. “I don’t know if you’re aware. Ninety-five years old. Nelson Mandela — I spent some time in South Africa, he was a communist, this man. He was a communist. But he was a great man anyway. The sacrifices he made for his people were just stunning. But he was a communist. A great man, but a communist.”
“I would never attack Nelson Mandela,” O’Reilly continued. “I told Bishop Tutu, who’s like that too, but I told him ‘I respect you.’ Why can’t you guys in the Republican Party bring that to the forum?”

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O'Reilly says what he says for ratings, fame and money. He doesn't even believe the shit that comes out of his mouth.

see4 said:

O'Reilly says what he says for ratings, fame and money. He doesn't even believe the shit that comes out of his mouth.

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I think there is an agenda.

Look how desperate he is to label. It doesn't even matter that he is accidentally correct in calling him a commie. The argument is still invalid. It is part of the slippery slope that these mouth breathing buffoons love so much. The agenda is to associate all of the left with authoritarianism and to therefore render right-wing politics synonymous with liberty. The result would be that the buzzwords and dog whistles conjure up an image of violence.

He's a communist, therefore he's a marxist authoritarian socialist, therefore he's a murderer, therefore apartheid is liberty. This is how dog whistles become political silver bullets.

The truth is that Nelson Mandela started off the ANC as a nonviolent anti-apartheid revolution. He had a profound respect for Gandhi. As JFK said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable". Indeed, ANC became an armed rebellion because they found out that it is impossible to remove structural violence without the use of violent tactics.

Now watch as he is turned into a symbol for world leaders to pay homage to before droning kids in Pakistan.

abandonconflict said:

I think there is an agenda.

Look how desperate he is to label. It doesn't even matter that he is accidentally correct in calling him a commie. The argument is still invalid. It is part of the slippery slope that these mouth breathing buffoons love so much. The agenda is to associate all of the left with authoritarianism and to therefore render right-wing politics synonymous with liberty. The result would be that the buzzwords and dog whistles conjure up an image of violence.

He's a communist, therefore he's a marxist authoritarian socialist, therefore he's a murderer, therefore apartheid is liberty. This is how dog whistles become political silver bullets.

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I just wanted to repeat that. I would +rep you, but I seem to need to spread love around.

abandonconflict said:

I think there is an agenda.

Look how desperate he is to label. It doesn't even matter that he is accidentally correct in calling him a commie. The argument is still invalid. It is part of the slippery slope that these mouth breathing buffoons love so much. The agenda is to associate all of the left with authoritarianism and to therefore render right-wing politics synonymous with liberty. The result would be that the buzzwords and dog whistles conjure up an image of violence.

He's a communist, therefore he's a marxist authoritarian socialist, therefore he's a murderer, therefore apartheid is liberty. This is how dog whistles become political silver bullets.

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You have worked yourself into a froth, AC. Mandela was a communist and a Marxist, but I think he did that in an "enemy of my enemy" way. He certainly seems to have backed off on the communism after he was released from prison and elevated to the presidency.

As long as the left is intent on confiscating the wealth of some to give 20% of it to others, while appropriating the other 80% as a finder's fee, the left will indeed be violent. The right is just as bad, and just as violent. I prefer Libertarianism.

O'Reilly is a blowhard. That is all.

desert dude said:

You have worked yourself into a froth, AC. Mandela was a communist and a Marxist, but I think he did that in an "enemy of my enemy" way. He certainly seems to have backed off on the communism after he was released from prison and elevated to the presidency.

As long as the left is intent on confiscating the wealth of some to give 20% of it to others, while appropriating the other 80% as a finder's fee, the left will indeed be violent. The right is just as bad, and just as violent. I prefer Libertarianism.

O'Reilly is a blowhard. That is all.

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You're not a libertarian though. You're a Republican racist capitalist who thinks that the constitution is holy writ. This makes you a statist. Capitalism is wealth redistribution upward. Private hereditary ownership of the means of production and natural resources used for personal profit doesn't reconcile with your vaunted nonaggression principal. The reasons are two fold. First because the original acquisition of them was achieved through genocide and second because they become a goad by which those who require the sustenance they provide to toil for the enrichment of the "owners".

There are no libertarians in the GOP. You're not a libertarian. You're a teabagger.

Ron Paul is just another racist republican.

abandonconflict said:

There are no libertarians in the GOP. You're not a libertarian. You're a teagagger.

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corrected that for you.

Keynes is a Nazi, that's why he thinks everything and everyone is a Marxist. I just wanted to put his comments in context for anyone reading.

Mandela was not a Marxist or a communist, he was a democratic socialist, I.E. a parliamentary socialist. KKKeynes is unable to process important details and context, so naturally Mandela like every other person is labeled a Marxist by KKKeynes.