Someone plzz help ASAP! my plants walkin the green mile

Someone please help!!! My plant has been like this for a week or two and i cant stop it...i have given it quarter strength miracle grow.didnt work.i even moved it yesterday cuz i thought the soil might be bad..hasnt helped yet...someone please help before it dies.btw.its an outdoor plant which get sun from the crack of dawn until sunset.it did have minor pest probs which are now controlled.

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maybe if you stop giving in nutrients and stop diggin it up to move it it will be okay... u are probably just being to over protective...

it was like that b4 i moved it but nice try

kinda looks like an iron deficiency

its probably due to an ph imbalance.....check the ph of your soil and make sure its in range....then correct the deficiency goodluck!!

do you know of any organic iron sources???

not really.....you can use rusty water LOL serious though, rusty water is valid, you can also try compost teas or chelated iron...........sorry couldn't be more helpful good luck!!

you were helpful enough...im sure i can find some rusty water.lol

did you check the ph? because if the ph is way off it really wont matter what you try to do until you fix the ph. it will continue to be nute locked.

robert420 said:

do you know of any organic iron sources???

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Iron (Fe) Micro Nutrient and an Immobile element

Iron is an important component of the plants enzyme and is also important for the transportation of electrons while photosynthesis is happening...

Iron reacts with many of the components of nutrient solutions, which will cause a nutrient lockup to occur, If you add to much Iron without adding enough Phosphorus, you can contribute to a phosphorus deficiency , so watch out how much iron and phosphorus your nutrients have. The Leaves on the plant can turn a pale yellow along the growing shoots, while the veins remain dark green. When you have pH imbalance, it can make iron insoluble. The tissue between the veins becomes pale or white, kind of mimics the magnesium deficiency, but not yellow, iron has the white where the yellow would be on the magnesium deficiency. The deficiency starts with the lower and middle leaves, while the new leaves become completely lacking in chlorophyll, but with little or no necrotic spots. The chlorotic mottling on new leaves starts first near the bases of the leaflets, so the middle of the leaf appears to have a yellow mark. Iron is difficult for plants to absorb and moves really slowly in the plant.
Harder for outdoor plants to absorb when in hot weather. Parts affected by the Iron Deficiency are: Young leaves and Petioles.

To much Iron can cause a problem that looks like a PH imbalance, Brown spotting on the top leaves, mainly fan leaves. Can affect the whole plant. Iron Toxicity is rare for Ph below 5.5.

Problems with Iron being locked out by PH troubles
Over watering, pests nematodes, not enough drainage, like not enough perlite. High ph, Soils with low iron, High Phosphorus, Excess Zinc, manganese or copper.

Soil

Iron gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 2.0-3.5
Iron is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 4.0-6.5 (Wouldn’t recommend having a soil ph of over 7.0 in soil) anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to an Iron Deficiency.

Hydro and Soil less Mediums

Iron gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 2.0-3.5
Iron is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 4.0- 6.0 (Wouldn’t recommend having a ph over 6.5 in hydro and soil less mediums.) Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0. Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to an iron deficiency.

Solution to fixing a Iron deficiency
Any Chemical/Organic nutrients that have potassium in them will fix a Iron deficiency. (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients, or it will cause nutrient burn!) Foliar feed with chemical fertilizer containing Fe or rusty water can work well. Other supplements that have Iron in them are: Iron chelates, Ferric oxide, Ferrous oxide, Ferrous sulfate, all of these are fast absorption. Greensand, Cottonseed Meal is slow absorption, Garden Manure, which is medium absorption. Manure is most common organic iron source to use.

Now if you added to much chemical nutrients and or organics,( which is hard to burn your plants when using organics) You need to Flush the soil with plain water. You need to use 2 times as much water as the size of the pot, for example: If you have a 5 gallon pot and need to flush it, you need to use 10 gallons of water to rinse out the soil good enough to get rid of excessive nutrients.

Picture 2-3 is a more severe case of iron def



hope this helps, that looks like a nasty problem to have!

i would prolly foliar feed with rusty water like greenhorn said (or whatevr you can find) maybe a few times even, and see what happens. id also check the soil ph, id bet its a lil high? i wouldnt give the soil any more nutes , try plain water ph adjusted to like 5.5-6.0 until it shows signs of improvement? thats my two cents

oh just had a thought are you using MG all purpose or MG bloom booster, if your mistakenly usin the booster the excess P might be throwin things outta wack, just a thought?

good luck!

dude did you harden that plant off before you gave it full sun???looks like leaf burn to me.

gotta love mirical grow.

i dont know why you would be giving you plant nutes stop messing with it and let it grow.

is it your soil or just some dirt. has it been cold. this plant has always been outside?. it looks like it will be fine. do you grow any food?

Im having the same prob!!!! i dont know what to do? I have 2 plants and only one is showing the symptoms that your plant is showing. I water them exactly the same. I dont know how to fix it!