Solar power and/or wind power anyone?

Rrog said:

That's just it- if a simple system were defined and could be ganged together, whatever and give access to the components. Make it easy and people will do it.

Buying the cells by the brick is one thing. Buying pallets of bricks maybe brings even more savings.

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Rrog said:

Just an update here. Without question a citizen may assemble his / her own energy producing device. DIY solar panels, DIY wind turbine, Water-wheel, hamsters on wheels, doesn't matter. You can do them all if you like. YOU ARE NOT FORCED TO BUY SOMEONE ELSE'S SOLAR PANELS AND WINDMILLS. This is a myth propagated by installers and small manufacturers of panels. I have confirmed this with several governing bodies, including a phone conversation with the man that wrote this section of the National Electric Code (NEC). He wondered how I found him lol. There is no question that no electrician, installer or even electrical inspector can tell you not to use your own panels.

The program to connect to your local Utility (Consumers) is called Net Metering. Lets you hook up your system to Consumers and sell them your leftover energy. All very well spelled out. Big tax rebates, even if you build your own. They encourage people to hook up anything they can. As a side note ONLY solar is viable. Wind has moving parts and a failure rate / maintenance cost that makes it a bad financial move (often). Much better return on investment is solar panels.

I'm looking at a system that would generate $250 worth of electricity a month, and have it all paid for in 6 years. After that, free juice,and what I don't use I sell to Consumers. That's what I'm talking about.

So... I'm looking to put together a recipe for panel assembly. 3' x 5' panels that you assemble yourself. The cells are fused to a glass panel in a vacuum oven. Sounds more difficult than it is. I'm building the oven, and will make it available to anyone who wants to build their own panels. I'll be the village SolarSmyth. Assemble the cells, load them in a pickup, and bring them to the oven and use it.

I'll have links / locations for all the parts and pieces to connect, or just have a local installer follow the recipe. This includes very low-cost mounts for roof or ground. I'm putting all mine on the ground.

The goal is to provide anyone with the tools to get into solar and start dropping our electric bills, regardless of what you're using the energy for.

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Rrog said:

Just an update here. Without question a citizen may assemble his / her own energy producing device. DIY solar panels, DIY wind turbine, Water-wheel, hamsters on wheels, doesn't matter. You can do them all if you like. YOU ARE NOT FORCED TO BUY SOMEONE ELSE'S SOLAR PANELS AND WINDMILLS. This is a myth propagated by installers and small manufacturers of panels. I have confirmed this with several governing bodies, including a phone conversation with the man that wrote this section of the National Electric Code (NEC). He wondered how I found him lol. There is no question that no electrician, installer or even electrical inspector can tell you not to use your own panels.

The program to connect to your local Utility (Consumers) is called Net Metering. Lets you hook up your system to Consumers and sell them your leftover energy. All very well spelled out. Big tax rebates, even if you build your own. They encourage people to hook up anything they can. As a side note ONLY solar is viable. Wind has moving parts and a failure rate / maintenance cost that makes it a bad financial move (often). Much better return on investment is solar panels.

I'm looking at a system that would generate $250 worth of electricity a month, and have it all paid for in 6 years. After that, free juice,and what I don't use I sell to Consumers. That's what I'm talking about.

So... I'm looking to put together a recipe for panel assembly. 3' x 5' panels that you assemble yourself. The cells are fused to a glass panel in a vacuum oven. Sounds more difficult than it is. I'm building the oven, and will make it available to anyone who wants to build their own panels. I'll be the village SolarSmyth. Assemble the cells, load them in a pickup, and bring them to the oven and use it.

I'll have links / locations for all the parts and pieces to connect, or just have a local installer follow the recipe. This includes very low-cost mounts for roof or ground. I'm putting all mine on the ground.

The goal is to provide anyone with the tools to get into solar and start dropping our electric bills, regardless of what you're using the energy for.

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Rrog said:

Just an update here. Without question a citizen may assemble his / her own energy producing device. DIY solar panels, DIY wind turbine, Water-wheel, hamsters on wheels, doesn't matter. You can do them all if you like. YOU ARE NOT FORCED TO BUY SOMEONE ELSE'S SOLAR PANELS AND WINDMILLS. This is a myth propagated by installers and small manufacturers of panels. I have confirmed this with several governing bodies, including a phone conversation with the man that wrote this section of the National Electric Code (NEC). He wondered how I found him lol. There is no question that no electrician, installer or even electrical inspector can tell you not to use your own panels.

The program to connect to your local Utility (Consumers) is called Net Metering. Lets you hook up your system to Consumers and sell them your leftover energy. All very well spelled out. Big tax rebates, even if you build your own. They encourage people to hook up anything they can. As a side note ONLY solar is viable. Wind has moving parts and a failure rate / maintenance cost that makes it a bad financial move (often). Much better return on investment is solar panels.

I'm looking at a system that would generate $250 worth of electricity a month, and have it all paid for in 6 years. After that, free juice,and what I don't use I sell to Consumers. That's what I'm talking about.

So... I'm looking to put together a recipe for panel assembly. 3' x 5' panels that you assemble yourself. The cells are fused to a glass panel in a vacuum oven. Sounds more difficult than it is. I'm building the oven, and will make it available to anyone who wants to build their own panels. I'll be the village SolarSmyth. Assemble the cells, load them in a pickup, and bring them to the oven and use it.

I'll have links / locations for all the parts and pieces to connect, or just have a local installer follow the recipe. This includes very low-cost mounts for roof or ground. I'm putting all mine on the ground.

The goal is to provide anyone with the tools to get into solar and start dropping our electric bills, regardless of what you're using the energy for.

EDIT: This is not to be a weed-only thing. This is open to anyone that may benefit. I'll be notifying local Green / Environmental Groups to spread the word. People who participate may or may not like the Canna- but that's not the point. It's better, since no one will worry about anything. It's open to all.

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Rrog said:

If this was a fucked up concept, someone would speak up, right?

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Rrog said:

I wanna be a hemp farmer.

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Rrog said:

Stowe- When I ran crude numbers I'm getting $12K. I bumped that to $18K as unforeseen expenses / shit luck / etc. Now that I have super-confirmation that a person can build their own, I'm drilling down on glass manufacturers, etc to get a much better cost analysis. I'm still thinking there is $ to be saved building your own, and there's certainly $$ to be saved in the mounting hardware and install.

I should mention that you can build just one panel and connect. Then build another, then another. These all gang together for simple Plug-N-Expand. So you don't need a lot of upfront cash to get started.Keep building and adding as you go.

And this is all getting cheaper every year.

MrB- I'll keep posting for sure.

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