Soil... Sog... Diffrent strains... Lots of muh fuccin ????'s... Lots of pictures...

basically i have this grow i am working on involving 7 diffrent plants still vegging from seed... they are all growing at various speeds... i have 7 vitamin water bottles taped together in a circle turned upside down with the bottoms now being the top openings and the cap having drainage holes... i am using approx 25% perilite and the rest soil... i would have used more perilite, but have grown with this mixture before and had success... only to get a male, but yeah... back to the new shit... what i am wondering is this...

do you guys have any info on soil sog.. watering techniches... ways you guys water your sog's if not using a dro setup... do you guys grow sog from seed? what factors do you think the dif strains will play? all are completely unknown schwag bagseed... hell who knows, i may get all males... but if i dont, i sorta wanna know what the fuck i need to do to make this work...

i planned on topping, fimming, possible lst... not really sure what it will need or what i can do to give it a even canopy... or should i say what i am going to HAVE to do... i also plan on vegging for a min of a month and a half hoping that would allow all the plants to reach height of about 8 - 12 inches... i know the indicas are gonna be a lil bushy and may not even reach the height of some of the sativas so there will be a height that they all may have to be lowered to... time will tell... hopefully...

if your not gonna post links or any helpful advice, please dont post shit... i am really curious if i can do this... i have just finished off a micro bonsai style grow that quite a few people said were impossible with what i was using, so i know that this IS possible... i just know i may need alot of help to get through this grow... that is why i am posting in this thread... hopefully some grow vets can help me out on this one...

i will be posting piks of it all tomorrow... i have piks of all 7 sprouts in the thread in my sig... i had them in yogurt cups then.. i transplanted them into the homemade planter i described earlier, last nite...

thanks in advance for any help you may have for me...

i'll go ahead and post piks of the sprouts and my whole rubbermaid setup in general... i plan on reaching a height even with the top of one rubbermaid and letting the second one on top stacked and filled with all my lights... prolly gonna use around 462-508 actual watts of cfl lighting... i figure i still have awhile to flower so i am sorta dicking around getting to finsihing that box... besides the point... here's the piks...

i dont guess it would matter that i have only grown out a sativa dom plant?

rep for answers...

it took me too long to upload those piks to not get any answers in here... please help out a grower trying to upgrade from micro....

also... those arent the bulbs i am using... i plan on using 42 watt cfl's... 2700k blah blah blah...

cool pics man good stuff

you would get a rep point, but uhh... you didnt really answer any question man...lol... hel i'll give ya some rep just for being the first to comment...

sog usually means that you are only interested in the tops and having a lot of plants in a small amount of space, lollipopping the plants so that all you get is one top nug per plant. all of the fimming and topping and lst will create bushier plants that have many tops and grow in a wider pattern.

so decide what exactly your goal is and go from there... how big is your grow space?how many watts? how many plants do you want? this will determine what the best method of growing will be for your situation.

from what i can see w/ your floro set up, you will need way more light(hps or mh) to grow a sog, or even fim/top and lst 1 or 2 plants.

because this is your first time i would recommend getting an hps light and just growing a couple plants and just let them do there thing and see what you end up with, get a feel for how the growing process moves along, and worry about all the lst/sog/topping on your next run.

i like just letting them bush out naturally because of the stress it puts on plants to do otherwise (if had a fair share of hermie action and i dont need more)

well thanks for the advice... it doesnt really help me out though... i dont need a hps or mh to succesfully flower... i just finished off a grow, so this would be my second... dude.. i cant really say anything else.. did you even read evrything i put in this post? maybe you should go back and read everything, then make a comment with some advice...

You know MG, the guy is trying to be nice and offer you some quick advice and you tell him to go back and read your lame grow and then post advice. If he was like most growers, when he got to the vitamin water bottle and bagseed part, he woulda just went on to someone elses post and not said anything. So maybe if YOU would go back and read the rest of the whole god damn forum, you would find the answers to ALL of the questions you have without berating someone that is trying to help you on your pathetic attempt at growing.

agreed, thanks russ

good luck MG, i was just tryin to help but you obviously dont need it, obviously its workin since youve had such great success flowering your 1 male plant.

and your set up is crap, youd be better off throwing your bagseeds in a ditch next april

well russ thanx for clearing up my misuderstanding.. i really appreciate that... and huskerguy.. i guess like i said earlier.. thanks for the advice, it just doesnt help me too much... is that better? also, i flowered a female, not a male...

home made pot that is... 7 bottles strong...

I think Husker was trying to state that you shouldnt prune your SOG grow. If youre doing straight 12/12 you generally dont want it to bush out, and only 1 large cola stem. Thats why he went into why and when to trim/prune.
On the other note, watering is normal to any other gallon soil bucket. Obviously most SOG grows use smaller buckets, so cut down water amount to certain container.

Nice setup

wow people on this site are so fuckin childish lol ive seen plenty of rubbermaid grows on here with badass results dont need no gay hps. i dont think you will need 500 watts for that small of a space. and scrog seems to work nice with the short grow boxes should try that but it would need clones or fem seeds. if you dont wanna deal with screen a quick top and lst would be nice

yeah... people take the time to comment without reading everything alot... its sorta shitty, but it will ALWAYS happen... someone always thinks they are rite about everything...
i am not doing 12/12 from seed this time around, rather vegging under 18/6 for about a month and a half, then flowering... i am gonna try to fill up the bottom rubbermaid with growth and let it flower into the top half... i agree about the hps... however, if i could get a hold of one for really cheap and not being so paranoid about it, then i would... i would love to see shat i could do with a 400-500 hps in some rubbermaids... i just dont have the money, and i dont feel am i completely safe ordering one online yet... maybe in a couple of years, when the bible belt isnt so strict... i think my homie from trashville mite throw me a 600 watt hps... i think then i could do big things.. but for now, i will be happy for what i get outta cfl's ya know.. make the most of what you got, then upgrade when you get a chance... i think even when i do get hps, iwill still use cfl's to change up the spectrum... but yeah... and alos, i dont reall have the means of cooling a 600 watt yet.. it all comes with time and patience and learning...i think it takes alot more skill to grow with cfl's than a hps... with those the lights sorta do the work, with cfl's you gotta make it work... ya know what i mean? thanks for commenting on this grow... on a good note, i am trading my 30 watts total (2 x 15watt 18" flouros as of now) for a 60 watt triple 18" flouros... so instead of 2 x 15 watts, i will have 3 x 20 watts.. doubling my lights should have a good effect on them... i will have that up tonite... damn, i really need to make my drain caps today... if i get bored, that is what i will do... make drain caps for my "ghetto ass" sog grow... peace out homies and stay tuned for more... i will prolly move this thread to the cfl section, to avoid all the hps haters...

also, i would go fro scrog, but like you said, i will need clones and fems... being this is from seed, i may end up taking clones and flowering those first to find out the sexxes... i may do a scrog with the female clones... but yeah, it would be way too much of a hassle taking plants out under scrog if they had cock and balls... the future is limitless... we only need the knowledge to move forward... as long as i am advancing in growing and not fucking up more than the last time around, then i feel i am doing good...

well if your going to veg for a month might as well give them a quick top and or lst. then youll atleast use up some of the space that the males free up during flowering and get more then 1 decent bud of each plant

yeah.. i am just sorta waiting till they have more nodes going on, then i will "level" out the canopy... i jsu t gotta wait a lil longer.. i know that after i top or fimm than i will prolly veg for another couple of weeks...