Soil Food Web Gardening with Compost Teas

Don't feel bad...

Actually my buddy takes clones the day he harvests sometimes..Lol. They take FOREVER to not be straight up deformed, but 20% or so turn out just fine and alas the strain is saved again...

I like mothers.

Fellow Growers,
Can I request some seed pictures? I am trying to get a good collection of seed images to show the different sizes, colors, and patterns.

You can post them here:

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/635589-seed-pictures.html



Cheers,
Mo

headtreep said:

Organic cloning solution - 1 g water, 2 tbs aloe Vera, 1.5 tbs Ful-power, 1.5 ts Protekt. Shake. Soak clones in solution for a few hours or over night. Soak jiffy/rapid rooter plug in the solution and put your clones in as normal, and then put in dome.

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I am going to use this method, Cann's tried it and his results looked great. My only question is what about the aloe doesn't it go bad after 20 minutes..?

aloe doesn't so much go "bad" as it goes "not as good". some of the enzymes and secondary metabolites might be gone after about 20 minutes, but you will still get all the rooting power of saponins and salicylic acid. definitely better than not including the aloe, thats for sure. I was shocked by the results with this method. I will never revert to cloning gel again

Ya- that's a better description. I'm paraphrasing here, but when the Benzoic Acid (a lot of it, apparently) in the Aloe hits the open air- that's when fermentation starts. You're right in that only some, and not all goodness is lost, and I think Coot likes a particular brand of dried that he's pretty happy with.

I know some people can be skeptic but man this shit works well. I'm not here to waste my time or anyone's just parroting some bomb ass info so you all can reap the benefits and spread the love.

This is just good information to spread. More need to know. Super quality- and with recycling, it gets super cheap, super quick.

Right on everyone!Just as soon as spring gets going I'm going to post a bit of a tutorial on how I recycle my soil. I can't wait for some sunshine and soil under my finger nails.

Can I feed the aloe to my worms? My Costco has Aloe water - will that work, or have they pasteurized away all the good bits?

Rising Moon said:

Right on everyone!Just as soon as spring gets going I'm going to post a bit of a tutorial on how I recycle my soil. I can't wait for some sunshine and soil under my finger nails.

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Im kinda excited about this ^ and looking forward to all the great feedback on it.The whole throwing primo soil away is freaking absurdly silly.

Definitely feed the old aloe filets/scraps to your worms. they'll love it. As far as the costco aloe goes, we need to know more info. what is the brand? ingredients? if it has potassium sorbate its a no-go. citric acid is all you really want in there besides aloe. Lily of the desert makes a preservative free (only citric acid) product that is sold at health foods all around so-cal. you're down here, yes? Clarks nutrition is a good source if there is one locally.


Also rising moon and grnhrvstr - I have pics/info on my soil recycling process, do y'all want me to post them? I am considering making a ROLS (recycled organic living soil) thread, and the tutorial would be my first post. thoughts?

Cann said:

Can I feed the aloe to my worms? My Costco has Aloe water - will that work, or have they pasteurized away all the good bits?​

Definitely feed the old aloe filets/scraps to your worms. they'll love it. As far as the costco aloe goes, we need to know more info. what is the brand? ingredients? if it has potassium sorbate its a no-go. citric acid is all you really want in there besides aloe. Lily of the desert makes a preservative free (only citric acid) product that is sold at health foods all around so-cal. you're down here, yes? Clarks nutrition is a good source if there is one locally.


Also rising moon and grnhrvstr - I have pics/info on my soil recycling process, do y'all want me to post them? I am considering making a ROLS (recycled organic living soil) thread, and the tutorial would be my first post. thoughts?

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I got all giddy when it was first mentioned.Id def am interested in knowing the process of successful recycling of soil.Ive read so many conflicting threads on the matter but do believe in it .For what its worth, despite all the nay sayers, ive been bagging up used soil after ive flushed it.I have a 5 gal bucket with 50 or so holes drilled in it that I fill up with used roots organics thats had most of the roots removed be screening and then had 5-10 gallons of water ran through it.I figured if I cant reuse it for future cannabis plants that I could use it to amend to my outdoor soil which is mostly decomposed granite or in my raised beds.

Either way im so down for your idea Mr C

Grnhrvstr- I agree-

Regarding the nay-sayers, let's keep in mind that plants have been growing in soil for millions of years. What is there really for them to say nay about? If they'd prefer not to use soil- cool! Who cares? Their choice. But someone slamming soil is like slamming breast-feeding a baby. If someone wants to raise their child on infant formula, groovy, but don't slam moms who choose to breast feed. That's the analogy that I keep coming back to.

Come join us here Rrog and everyone. Please add or suggest anything you'd like but let's try to stay on topic.

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/636057-recycled-organic-living-soil-rols.html

im doing a grow using dyna gro and i do a supplemental compost tea. i add the nutes and the next day i add the compost tea. is this any beneficial for me?should i be doing this differently?

I wouldn't apply a compost tea every week...and especially not with guano or bone meal.

also, truelivingorganics, you need to edit your signature right now. if a mod sees that you will get banned immediately. there is no advertising on this website. please take your ads elsewhere...

stoned drifter - start reading this thread from the start, and you'll see why I wouldn't advocate applying a tea weekly. it will also answer every single question you asked. good luck!

EDIT: dude got banned. perfect

Are you doing botanical and enzyme brews in between teas Cann?? Coconut water?? My ladies and I are loving the switch to a more aact based regimen, just don't to waste or over do it....

have and irie day microbe people!! <3 soil<3

i apply barley seed tea once or twice a week, maybe a corn seed tea once a month, the occasional kelp/ewc tea if i really feel a plant needs it - but usually i just top dress the goodies i want to add and then water to start the decomposition process..

coconut h2o in every other water or so...whatever I feel like i can afford. if i had the $$$, every time i water i would use 1:15 coconut h2o. enzymes cant hurt...

IMO more than two or three ACTs per cycle is overdoing it...keep it simple

if you are doing it right the microbes will be established, no need to supply them externally.


i will however be applying an ACT to my veggie patch very soon because the soil looks like it is hurting and I want to kick things into gear. i will apply an ACT once, and that is that. maybe in a few months I will consider another depending on how things are looking

I still got to say I get better results when I ACT every other week or even once a week. I'm not talking established soil but more like stuff I just made. I would say after a few runs apply less ACT but it really does seem to speed of the process of decomposition. All my plants are A+ in health and vigor.

One a side note I got my blumats and I'm gonna put them in a few pots tomorrow (test). I will top dress extra dry amendments (as if I was making ACT) and let the soil do it's thing. I'm still not totally disagreeing with you guys since I personally haven't done a true side by side.

Cann said:

This is in regards to water straight out of a coconut, right? What about store bought coconut water?

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I've read that coconut water that has been previously extracted from the coconut is most likely pasteurized. If the case is you've bought such coconut water and used at a 1 : 15 ratio with water, were you able to determine any positive effects in your garden?