SOG growers wanted !!!

sparkafire · Sep 22, 2008

Hey bugs it was no big deal i was making fun of you for not being able to make clones. It was more from the day before and the chaos i inflicted on the board. I deserved it, it just pissed me off that they censored my thread. How have you been. I have new pics of my grow. Started all 20 of my clones that rooted in 14 days!! LOL

firsttimegroww · Sep 22, 2008

i got a question for all the SOG growers,
What ppm do you start at when your new clones into flower, and whats your max ppm at the end. thanks

sparkafire · Sep 22, 2008

firsttimegroww said:
i got a question for all the SOG growers,
What ppm do you start at when your new clones into flower, and whats your max ppm at the end. thanks

Using the ABF method I personally put mine in at about 1400 ppm or so. I will drop to 1000 and add Kool Bloom week 6. I did run it second week and i thought it burned my plants but it seems to have not and i will monitor this set veresus the new ones i just started.

If your just setting up i would recommend the simpelist nute system, SOG is very time consuming and the less you have to think about the better.

Al runs his 1400 across the board with no flush.

Intersted in hearing what others say.

CustomHydro · Sep 22, 2008

I haven't had a chance to play around yet. Has anyone tried a flush vs non flush? I can't imagine the taste being as good as it can be w/o a flush...
I'm trying Botanicare's PureBlend, w/ L Karma, cal mag, then adding Hydroplex in weeks 567, flush on 8.
Still a ways out. I fried my seeds...lol... Just ordered some more though..Sensi Jack Herer, everytime something fucks up, I come back with something better. I'm not giving up on this one... Not with the economy how it is.

grandpabear3 · Sep 23, 2008

sparkafire said:
Hey bugs it was no big deal i was making fun of you for not being able to make clones. It was more from the day before and the chaos i inflicted on the board. I deserved it, it just pissed me off that they censored my thread. How have you been. I have new pics of my grow. Started all 20 of my clones that rooted in 14 days!! LOL

bummer i missed out on chaos.....love the lil jab at the end bout yer clones......your cruel :cuss:

firsttimegroww said:
i got a question for all the SOG growers,
What ppm do you start at when your new clones into flower, and whats your max ppm at the end. thanks

my first week is about 1200 due to a burn scare i had the rest of the tanks are 1400 and the moms are 15-1600

CustomHydro said:
I haven't had a chance to play around yet. Has anyone tried a flush vs non flush? I can't imagine the taste being as good as it can be w/o a flush...
I'm trying Botanicare's PureBlend, w/ L Karma, cal mag, then adding Hydroplex in weeks 567, flush on 8.
Still a ways out. I fried my seeds...lol... Just ordered some more though..Sensi Jack Herer, everytime something fucks up, I come back with something better. I'm not giving up on this one... Not with the economy how it is.

i hear ya on the $$$....i dont flush but imma givitatry later on i n the year.

grandpabear3 · Sep 24, 2008

long live the sog thread!!!!! now back to the matter at hand......let's save the world yall

CustomHydro · Sep 24, 2008

bugsrnme said:
long live the sog thread!!!!! now back to the matter at hand......let's save the world yall

This thread is still good, just a latebloomer, thats all...lol

Anyhoo... The seeds I thought I fried may be okay... They are all definately stressed but still making progress...
I actually had to pop the shells open by hand because the seedlings weren't strong enough. After I did that I had 5 Strawberry Diesel, 2 Durga Mata,4 Power & Thai Skunk germinate. I'm pretty happy considering I almost threw them away the otherday after my mini greenhouse temps got up over 100

sparkafire · Sep 24, 2008

CustomHydro said:
This thread is still good, just a latebloomer, thats all...lol

Anyhoo... The seeds I thought I fried may be okay... They are all definately stressed but still making progress...
I actually had to pop the shells open by hand because the seedlings weren't strong enough. After I did that I had 5 Strawberry Diesel, 2 Durga Mata,4 Power & Thai Skunk germinate. I'm pretty happy considering I almost threw them away the otherday after my mini greenhouse temps got up over 100

Dead? We are just getting started!!

CY remind me what you have got going on again. I have a question about your seeds why so many different ones? For me it was just easier to stick to one strain than to work also with all the variables of different strains while learning this.

I was just thinking last night how i cant wait to start buying seeds and working them into my grow for no other reason than to try to get a better product. I would love to breed but i really don't have the room to do so. I really really want a purple budded plant but doesn't everyone? just something to work for.

thecloset · Sep 24, 2008

i am interested in starting a a perpetual ebb and flow grow but i would like to hear some more specifics about your setups...

lighting, ventilation, table size, clones per table, medium, flood/drain cycle, co2, etc...
anything you can think of would help just so i can compare several different methods

EDIT: how could i forget... average yeild per harvest also

CustomHydro · Sep 24, 2008

sparkafire said:
Dead? We are just getting started!!

CY remind me what you have got going on again. I have a question about your seeds why so many different ones? For me it was just easier to stick to one strain than to work also with all the variables of different strains while learning this.

I was just thinking last night how i cant wait to start buying seeds and working them into my grow for no other reason than to try to get a better product. I would love to breed but i really don't have the room to do so. I really really want a purple budded plant but doesn't everyone? just something to work for.

I'm only doing 2 strains in my SOG, maybe only 1 but....
Right now I'm doing mother selection, and I have some extra room so i threw a couple freebies in there. The freebies and the ones I don't choose for moms will be my first harvest.

Here is my room almost complete...
The tables are 3 4x4 tables, and 1 3x3 table. I won't be rotating plants table to table like Al. I will grow them in the same table for their entire life. this way I can do different strains easier and I could fit bigger tables in.

sparkafire · Sep 24, 2008

CY your doing perpetual right? You have a mother room set up i presume? Is this your first run at hydro?

sparkafire · Sep 24, 2008

thecloset said:
i am interested in starting a a perpetual ebb and flow grow but i would like to hear some more specifics about your setups...

lighting, ventilation, table size, clones per table, medium, flood/drain cycle, co2, etc...
anything you can think of would help just so i can compare several different methods

EDIT: how could i forget... average yeild per harvest also

Its all going to depend on your space and size you plan on doing. EBB & Flow is the way to go but you really have to plan this because of all the pieces that have to work together with a perpetual grow. Think about what you are going to use for trays, tubs, pumps fans and lights then you have to figure out how your set up for the mothers and how your are going to set up for clones.

Worry about getting it up and running. ITS A TON OF WORK and you don't need extra things like complex nutes CO2 and anything else that will distract you from just getting this running smoothly. Hydro in this set up will bring you to your knees if your not careful one mistake will cost you a minimum of 2 weeks if not your whole grow and have to start from scratch. Keep it basic basic basic!!!!

Thinking about yield is the last thing you should be worried about!! Lets get you growing first and go from there.

CustomHydro · Sep 24, 2008

sparkafire said:
CY your doing perpetual right? You have a mother room set up i presume? Is this your first run at hydro?

Yep perpetual. Third run at Hydro. The first one I got 2 males, and the second run I got root rot. Then I went to soil and got a 1/2 oz in 14 weeks...lol... Then I got sick of fucking around and I built a room with descent stuff...
FYI...I edited my last post saying... The only thing I will be doing different than most is I will leave the plants in tthe same table for the entire grow.

sparkafire · Sep 24, 2008

CustomHydro said:
Yep perpetual. Third run at Hydro. The first one I got 2 males, and the second run I got root rot. Then I went to soil and got a 1/2 oz in 14 weeks...lol... Then I got sick of fucking around and I built a room with descent stuff...
FYI...I edited my last post saying... The only thing I will be doing different than most is I will leave the plants in tthe same table for the entire grow.

It looks like you have an idea of how your going to do it. Depending on how many plants you plan on running every 2weeks will depend on how many mothers you will need. If you have a female now just use her to clone from and then use a clone to add to her. You don't have to move them it will all depend on your lighting if you cant drop your lights to get close to the new clones they might stretch on you and with 4 different tubs of juice you can add supplements in certin weeks like ABF. I am sure you could get by for now using 1 or 2 tubs but you will be fighting it.

How are you set up for your tables and tubs?

CustomHydro · Sep 24, 2008

sparkafire said:
Its all going to depend on your space and size you plan on doing. EBB & Flow is the way to go but you really have to plan this because of all the pieces that have to work together with a perpetual grow. Think about what you are going to use for trays, tubs, pumps fans and lights then you have to figure out how your set up for the mothers and how your are going to set up for clones.

Worry about getting it up and running. ITS A TON OF WORK and you don't need extra things like complex nutes CO2 and anything else that will distract you from just getting this running smoothly. Hydro in this set up will bring you to your knees if your not careful one mistake will cost you a minimum of 2 weeks if not your whole grow and have to start from scratch. Keep it basic basic basic!!!!

Thinking about yield is the last thing you should be worried about!! Lets get you growing first and go from there.

I cant stress how much I second every thought in this reply.
Rule one for SOG is K.I.S.S. "Keep It Simple Stoner"
That is what this is all about.
I will say that if u are really interested u should scan this thread https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/6592-get-harvest-every-2-weeks.html

sparkafire · Sep 24, 2008

CustomHydro said:
I cant stress how much I second every thought in this reply.
Rule one for SOG is K.I.S.S. "Keep It Simple Stoner"
That is what this is all about.
I will say that if u are really interested u should scan this thread https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/6592-get-harvest-every-2-weeks.html

I have been corrected by a post to another by FDD2blk that SOG is not perpetual and its a mistake in calling a perpetual grow a SOG grow. Kinda embarrassing when you realize that you have been using the wrong terminology.

I don't know if there is a acronym for perpetual if not we need to think one up.

Yes KISS KISS KISS

CustomHydro · Sep 24, 2008

sparkafire said:
It looks like you have an idea of how your going to do it. Depending on how many plants you plan on running every 2weeks will depend on how many mothers you will need. If you have a female now just use her to clone from and then use a clone to add to her. You don't have to move them it will all depend on your lighting if you cant drop your lights to get close to the new clones they might stretch on you and with 4 different tubs of juice you can add supplements in certin weeks like ABF. I am sure you could get by for now using 1 or 2 tubs but you will be fighting it.

How are you set up for your tables and tubs?

I have 3 4x4's and 1 3x3. Well actually I only have 1 true 4x4. In order to fit the others in I had to get 2 26x44" to equal 1 4x4... so I have
4 26"x44" (which I am using as 2 4x4's)
1 4'x4'
1 3'x3'

so I do have four tubs. My room is the same as Al's except I hace 3 4x4's and a 3x3, he has all 3x3's...
I didn't know he only used 3x3's until after I already bought all my tables and they didn't fit....lol Live and learn.

sparkafire · Sep 24, 2008

CustomHydro said:
I have 3 4x4's and 1 3x3. Well actually I only have 1 true 4x4. In order to fit the others in I had to get 2 26x44" to equal 1 4x4... so I have
4 26"x44" (which I am using as 2 4x4's)
1 4'x4'
1 3'x3'

so I do have four tubs. My room is the same as Al's except I hace 3 4x4's and a 3x3, he has all 3x3's...
I didn't know he only used 3x3's until after I already bought all my tables and they didn't fit....lol Live and learn.

Where are your mothers and how do you plan to clone?

CustomHydro · Sep 24, 2008

sparkafire said:
I have been corrected by a post to another by FDD2blk that SOG is not perpetual and its a mistake in calling a perpetual grow a SOG grow. Kinda embarrassing when you realize that you have been using the wrong terminology.

Yeah that is true, but 99% of the people on here doing SOG do it perpetually.

CustomHydro · Sep 24, 2008

sparkafire said:
Where are your mothers and how do you plan to clone?

Mothers will be in the closet in the room next door in their own flood table.
Cloning will be just like AL does. I will be filling 4x4 tables 3 of 4 rounds, and a 3x3 1 of 4 rounds. The weeks I fill the 4x4's i will be taking 50 cuts and using 30-35, and 20-25 on the 3x3.

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