So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

HGK420

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boy o boy frass is about a hot button topic isn't it. from a Shit salesman's point of view its the holy grail. 48-72 hours to turn a pile of organic matter into nicely composted frass... eat your heart out worms!

from what I'm reading not only is it easier and quicker to make but they are charging MORE for it? god bless america.
 

Rrog

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I just like the chitin contribution instead of using crab shell from faaaaar away.

Bulldog- are you wondering if anyone here has measured the Brix of their plants?
 

Thebulldog

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I just like the chitin contribution instead of using crab shell from faaaaar away.

Bulldog- are you wondering if anyone here has measured the Brix of their plants?
Hello, nope the question is, has anyone attained Hi Brix methodology, the use of bat poop, worm casings, gypsum and a few more ingredients from natural minerals and such to attain the end result of a Hi Brix measurement and the resulting end product of the best one could grow.
 

Rrog

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Some have measured Brix in the past. Reported it. Then discussions as to its value, etc. I personally haven't been inclined to measure.
 

Javadog

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I expect to build Bin 2.0

Using a store bought unit is informative though.

I can see how controlling access to the material prevents
unwanted bug infestations.

I am ordering Black Soldier Flies today. I am going to build
a composter for all the other things that I cannot compost.

JD

P.S. This dude is in your backyard Mad.
 

Rrog

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I'm looking at BSFs when I raise chickens. Their eggs are much improved with a good diet including BSF
 

DonPetro

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I just read through the instructional on making LactoB and was wondering the benefits? It seems really simple to make. Can it also be added to an AACT or is it more effective on its own?
 

Rrog

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Lacto-B serum is just a basic initial digester. Gets Lacto-bacillus rolling, and speeds things along. They are like the first colonizers. I don't personally use AACT
 

st0wandgrow

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Yea lots of great info in here. Thanks Stow.
Hey, I want to revisit that AACT discussion and clarify things a bit without the bickering. When making a compost tea, we need to keep in mind what the goal is. We are trying to multiply, and extract the microbes that are present in the compost/vermicompost that is being used for the tea. To do this we only need two things (aside from the mechanisms used to brew the AACT): A *quality* source of compost, and a food stock(s). Rrog knows Microbeman (Tim) on a personal level, and will vouch for what I'm saying here .... which is essentially just echoing Tim's words. Molasses is all that's needed to brew an effective ACT. You can use other items if you wish, but keep in mind that these items are not intended to "feed" the plant, but instead they are used/added as a food source for the microbes during their short multiplication cycle. With that said, any food stock that is added should further your goal of microbial multiplication, otherwise it is counter productive. IMO, without a microscope and lots of time to test each food stock individually and use a microscope to verify that this particular item is effectively multiplying bacteria and/or fungi, then you're throwing mud at a wall .... and could actually be hindering the process as some ingredients (ie humic acid) actually suppress this process.

If you have brewed a good compost tea, adding this to your medium will speed up the process of breaking down, and making bio available the organic ingredients that you have already added to your soil by virtue of increasing the microbial population in your container by millions (or billions). I like to inoculate my soil by wetting it down with a compost tea while it's "cooking" for the 6-8 week period. I will use one or two more during veg and early flower, but that's it for me. I have to believe at a certain point there will be plenty of micro-life in my containers doing their thing and adding more is really unnecessary. If you are starting out with a good source of compost as part of your base soil, then it could be argued that compost teas are really not needed at all as your medium is already loaded with an abundance of beneficial microbes.

So, imo, there is nothing wrong with experimenting with different ingredients .... just keep in mind what the intended purpose of an ACT is and try your best not to add stuff that will work against you. Tim has already done a lot of this work for us, and has some good recipes on his website that you can assume have been well vetted.

Happy brewing! :-)
 

DonPetro

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Ok think i am clear on the AACTs now. Thank you guys. Thats really what i have been moving towards-a properly amended medium with just a simple ACT every now and then. So back to the LactoB. How is this used and what exactly are the benefits?
Sorry, i missed this part:
"This is still concentrated. You can add a couple tablespoons of this to a gallon of water for soil or foliar. You can add this to soil to start the microbes after a new soil mix. You can spray as a foliar in veg or early flower."
Awesome. Thanks again.
 

Thebulldog

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Ok think i am clear on the AACTs now. Thank you guys. Thats really what i have been moving towards-a properly amended medium with just a simple ACT every now and then. So back to the LactoB. How is this used and what exactly are the benefits?
Sorry, i missed this part:
"This is still concentrated. You can add a couple tablespoons of this to a gallon of water for soil or foliar. You can add this to soil to start the microbes after a new soil mix. You can spray as a foliar in veg or early flower."
Awesome. Thanks again.
Hello Amigo
you have a receipe ? How much molasses and how long to bubble it and the final amount of water to add to the molassses and can it be bottled and shelved or is it to be used right away?
have a good 1, Bulldog
 

Javadog

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Welcome bulldog!

I am not recalling the precise numbers, but that is the gist of it.

Read the first page of this thread if you can, as I am sure that there
were a couple recipes quoted to kick this off.

Good luck,

JD
 

Thebulldog

New Member
Welcome bulldog!

I am not recalling the precise numbers, but that is the gist of it.

Read the first page of this thread if you can, as I am sure that there
were a couple recipes quoted to kick this off.

Good luck,

JD
OK now the mind is working on a super , how about some sprouted barley and molasses in a bubble bucket, hmmmm the enzyemes from the barley sprouts and the sugar from the mollasses ?
 
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