So we decided to finally try a Vape...

OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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Cobnobuler said:
I didnt want to invest $ 500 bucks into a vaporizer so I did a little surfing around and decided on the Eazy Vape.
Now, the Mrs and I have been tokin traditional for over 30 years now, and I knew there would be a learning curve here getting used to the thing.
So, in a few days it arrives and we are anxious to try it out. The idea of a "cleaner" way of ingestion was very appealing to me.
The problem became evident almost right away and its something I never expected....We're both choking to death on the damned thing.
Now, I know theres going to be some experimenting with the temperature to find the right spots but I started at 360 degrees and found that was too hot as most of the "payload" burned black. So, I turn it way back to 275 and that seemed to work much better but the vapor...man, we both coughed up a lung trying to hit this bastard.
A little history..... We have never been the type to smoke from bongs, pipes, pop cans or whatever for this same reason, especially the Mrs. We've always found it all to be too harsh no matter if it was made of wood, steel, or glass so we are and always have been Zig-Zag rollers exclusively. For us, that has always been what delivered the best hit.
We've only had it for 2 days so we have more experimenting to do. I really wanted this method to work.
Any ideas in the meantime ?

Cob
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Take that ridiculous thing and put it on the tracks and smoke a fatty and wait for the train.
 
ru4r34l

ru4r34l

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SunnyJim said:
In truth, I used the MFLB for a couple months before I threw it on ebay. Sufficient time to realize the batteries weren't up to much for constant use, so I went ahead and bought the power adapter. I concede that the power adapter made things better, but it was still an incredibly tedious process where a laborious 'formula' had to be followed in order to get the best out of the device - hold the button for 4 seconds, take 5 small sips, don't form a tight seal around the stem with your lips, breath in air and vapor at the same time, release the button quickly or your herbs will start to combust, shake the MFLB, hold the button down for 3 seconds during the second run, shake it all about .... I get the beauty of its simplistic design and portability (using the batteries), I just found it to be a little user-unfriendly.

I guess it wasn't for me, and that I'd probably be more comfortable with idiot-proof devices; press a button and wait for the beep, take a draw, rinse & repeat.

Peace
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Anything with a balloon decreases the learning cure with vaping immensely.

LJ6 said:
Ik this is a thread for vapes and the like but have you looked into edibles at all? Dont even have to worry about coughing up the good stuff when it comes to those. And alot better for the lungs i reckon
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Any long term vape users surely knows that the ABV is great (2nd or third choice for me) for making edibles, I guess the best of both worlds.
OddBall1st said:
Take that ridiculous thing and put it on the tracks and smoke a fatty and wait for the train.
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Spoken like someone who has never used a vaporizer, fattys don't compare, but they are fun at parties and very efficient unless your looking to smoke up a room.

regards,
 
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OddBall1st

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ru4r34l said:
Anything with a balloon decreases the learning cure with vaping immensely.


Any long term vape users surely knows that the ABV is great (2nd or third choice for me) for making edibles, I guess the best of both worlds.

Spoken like someone who has never used a vaporizer, fattys don't compare, but they are fun at parties and very efficient unless your looking to smoke up a room.

regards,
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Why would I go out and spend ridiculous money and time searching for the most creative way to chase the high from pot ? For the last 20 or so years I`ve been able to get completely stoned or smoked straight from very little effort and great pot. What`s the vap going to do for me again ?
 
beastbub

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i ve only tried magic flight launch box, its cheap, ~ 100 dollars, very small and really easy to use! The high i get is quite different from joints and bubblers, its more enjoyable but less intense. More on the head than the body coachlocked feeling. Most of the time i taje bubbler hits i just love the taste and the high too much! So imo, when indoor its always bubbler>vape>joints. But when outside, joints are the only one i do :)

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lilroach

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OddBall1st said:
Why would I go out and spend ridiculous money and time searching for the most creative way to chase the high from pot ? For the last 20 or so years I`ve been able to get completely stoned or smoked straight from very little effort and great pot. What`s the vap going to do for me again ?
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Many people, including my wife, have problems smoking weed traditionally. Vaporizers are much easier on the lungs.

I like vaping as it can be done almost anywhere, there's no joints to roll, no tell-tale pot-smoke, the high is very clean, and can really stretch your weed as you don't need as much to get stoned.
 
OddBall1st

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lilroach said:
Many people, including my wife, have problems smoking weed traditionally. Vaporizers are much easier on the lungs.

I like vaping as it can be done almost anywhere, there's no joints to roll, no tell-tale pot-smoke, the high is very clean, and can really stretch your weed as you don't need as much to get stoned.
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Then it will truly help you out. The fab going now is being bought hook, line and sinker to the little one`s . It has it`s place at home as entertainment and medicinal values but c`mon, smoking pot will never be classy and is best done and over with quick to enjoy the high.

Saving your lungs to attack you heart and liver aint much of a trade off.
 
Cobnobuler

Cobnobuler

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lilroach said:
Many people, including my wife, have problems smoking weed traditionally. Vaporizers are much easier on the lungs.

I like vaping as it can be done almost anywhere, there's no joints to roll, no tell-tale pot-smoke, the high is very clean, and can really stretch your weed as you don't need as much to get stoned.
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....And of course its these things that led us to try this thing out. We've both been tokin for decades now and thats a lot of resin. I refuse to make judgement on the thing this soon, that just wouldnt be fair. But to this point, the cons are winning and this thing is probably headed for a place in the closet next to the Ronco vinyl record cleaner.
 
ru4r34l

ru4r34l

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OddBall1st said:
Why would I go out and spend ridiculous money and time searching for the most creative way to chase the high from pot ? For the last 20 or so years I`ve been able to get completely stoned or smoked straight from very little effort and great pot. What`s the vap going to do for me again ?
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I guess if your only looking to 'GET HIGH', then it's not for you and you can continue to smoke but there are plenty of herb users that cannot handle or do not like combustion (smoke). I'm not sure of your individual financial situation but $100 - $300 most individuals would not call 'ridiculous money'.

And your final question, the vape will do nothing for you because you don't use one. :cool:

regards,
 
OddBall1st

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I don`t buy the hyperbole about getting higher with less weed used. It`s BS.
Vaporizer gives you dangerous levels directly, combustion gives slower release filtered by soot.
Your preference reference is BS. You don`t need to vape. You choose to. There are more than two ways.

Vaporizing is a fab that puts your money in their pocket and that`s it. The dangers are not listed on the product......Yet.

No, you wont choke from vaporizing because your liver and heart do not create that symptom.

I urge you not to use vaporizing daily or even weekly.

When you have more credibility than the doctor that is treating you, your choice of ingestion is the better of the two.
 
ru4r34l

ru4r34l

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OddBall1st said:
I don`t buy the hyperbole about getting higher with less weed used. It`s BS.
Vaporizer gives you dangerous levels directly, combustion gives slower release filtered by soot.
Your preference reference is BS. You don`t need to vape. You choose to. There are more than two ways.

Vaporizing is a fab that puts your money in their pocket and that`s it. The dangers are not listed on the product......Yet.

No, you wont choke from vaporizing because your liver and heart do not create that symptom.

I urge you not to use vaporizing daily or even weekly.

When you have more credibility than the doctor that is treating you, your choice of ingestion is the better of the two.
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I'm not sure why you chose the word hyperbole, as there are plenty of people who will undoubtedly confirm that they use less herbs when vaporizing then they did when smoking, as for vaping giving dangerous levels directly ? Dangerous levels of what? Cannabinoids?

Also i'm not sure what choking has to do with liver and heart?

Money in who's pocket? vaporizers are not new by any means, the volcano is almost 15 years old and there has been vaping methods long before that.

I will urge most to vape more than smoking, whether hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly. :cool:

regards,
 
dr.gonzo1

dr.gonzo1

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I've been reading up on vaporizers recently aswell.

Not sure what to go for. Friend had a volcano but I didn't really think it was overly satisfying, dunno something seemed to be missing.

Was thinking portable pen type to use on the move, any suggestions I might check out?
 
Cobnobuler

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SunnyJim said:
In truth, I used the MFLB for a couple months before I threw it on ebay. Sufficient time to realize the batteries weren't up to much for constant use, so I went ahead and bought the power adapter. I concede that the power adapter made things better, but it was still an incredibly tedious process where a laborious 'formula' had to be followed in order to get the best out of the device - hold the button for 4 seconds, take 5 small sips, don't form a tight seal around the stem with your lips, breath in air and vapor at the same time, release the button quickly or your herbs will start to combust, shake the MFLB, hold the button down for 3 seconds during the second run, shake it all about .... I get the beauty of its simplistic design and portability (using the batteries), I just found it to be a little user-unfriendly.

I guess it wasn't for me, and that I'd probably be more comfortable with idiot-proof devices; press a button and wait for the beep, take a draw, rinse & repeat.

Peace
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This is for sure. These gadgets that require a bunch of piddlefukin around with just aren't feasible.

Again...thanks to all who have been contributing to this little discussion. It truly is our first experience with the world of vaping and we're still experimenting with this thing a week later. I'm beginning to think it will have a place here. It seems like this might be a good method as someone mentioned as a "daytime" choice of delivery. We will probably also continue with the burining of the traditional phattie as well :)
 
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spazatak

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OddBall1st said:
I don`t buy the hyperbole about getting higher with less weed used. It`s BS.
Vaporizer gives you dangerous levels directly, combustion gives slower release filtered by soot.
Your preference reference is BS. You don`t need to vape. You choose to. There are more than two ways.

Vaporizing is a fab that puts your money in their pocket and that`s it. The dangers are not listed on the product......Yet.

No, you wont choke from vaporizing because your liver and heart do not create that symptom.

I urge you not to use vaporizing daily or even weekly.

When you have more credibility than the doctor that is treating you, your choice of ingestion is the better of the two.
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would you care to explain this statement..... I would like to know what are the "dangerous levels"you refer to...
 
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i can recommend the arizer solo! have one with a gong adapter and a pinnacle pro and it's like a mini de verdamper. taste is amazing. love this little thing <3
 
racerboy71

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i have an arizer extreme q bla bla blah, and i might have used it about, idk, 5 times or so in the 3 years or so i've had it.. i'm not a fan of vaping.. imvho, the high is much, much, much weaker than even a simple joint.. it all seems to be in the head and like i said, it's way mellower than a joint..
i for one don't get the using less weed thing as the few times i used it, i had to smoke twice as much and still didn't get to the same level of being high as i would after 3 or 4 rips on my roor..
idk, like i said, it's just way mellow, and a much different high then what comes from combustion, and i for one am not a fan of vaping.. :(
 
OddBall1st

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spazatak said:
would you care to explain this statement..... I would like to know what are the "dangerous levels"you refer to...
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That`s typed "dangerous levels directly". Sure. When you put concentrated levels into your body at once, you run the risk of attacking your heart. For example, if one had un diagnosed Coronary Artery Disease and all the sudden the heart rate jumps up and puts high pressure on one side and lower pressure on the other, you can kill yourself depending. Another example is when you have build up in your arteries and the sudden jump in pressure forces loose a piece of the blockage, you wont be around to tell anyone what happened.

There are greater risks when shocking your body with concentrated levels than when it is slower released. Ever see someone hardened with pot use pass out from dabbing ?

This doesn`t apply every time you vape. It`s more a raising the stakes game.

Smoking pot leave residual in the paper, pipe, water or soot in the smoke and a slower release is obtained as opposed to the direct high level shocking you do with vaporizing.

People claim less weed from vaporizing because they don`t get slower release and that makes sense, but in no way does vaporizing increase the potency like others claim. They don`t understand the difference between concentrated and filtered slow release.

Vaporizing is a fab.


Pot`s pretty harmless, but if a five ton bail fell on you ???? Know what I mean ? Why make it risky ?
 
spazatak

spazatak

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OddBall1st said:
That`s typed "dangerous levels directly". Sure. When you put concentrated levels into your body at once, you run the risk of attacking your heart. For example, if one had un diagnosed Coronary Artery Disease and all the sudden the heart rate jumps up and puts high pressure on one side and lower pressure on the other, you can kill yourself depending. Another example is when you have build up in your arteries and the sudden jump in pressure forces loose a piece of the blockage, you wont be around to tell anyone what happened.

There are greater risks when shocking your body with concentrated levels than when it is slower released. Ever see someone hardened with pot use pass out from dabbing ?

This doesn`t apply every time you vape. It`s more a raising the stakes game.

Smoking pot leave residual in the paper, pipe, water or soot in the smoke and a slower release is obtained as opposed to the direct high level shocking you do with vaporizing.

People claim less weed from vaporizing because they don`t get slower release and that makes sense, but in no way does vaporizing increase the potency like others claim. They don`t understand the difference between concentrated and filtered slow release.

Vaporizing is a fab.


Pot`s pretty harmless, but if a five ton bail fell on you ???? Know what I mean ? Why make it risky ?
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any vape deaths that you know of?
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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No, not yet that can be linked.

You wouldn`t believe how many F`n studies are magically coming up with this and that trying to link a death to pot.

It`s like a major task to fund this one and that one and now the latest one is that Molly is a better choice over cannabis. That`s an attempt by the VA to stop cannabis use from PTSD.

All these F`n studies are recent and Federally funded. They`re getting away with Dr. this and Dr. that and none of them are pot smokers, so they claim.

It`s only a matter of time before this vape`n thing gives them something to go with.
 
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