Slow finish or am I missing something?

mike4c4

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Az2000 says shortening the photoperiod helped his plants finish, but then again, a lot can happen in two weeks anyway.

But aren't the plants always on the verge of re-vegging in 12/12? It seems that decreasing the light by a couple of minutes a day would keep the plant on a fast track toward finishing; Especially in the case of slow finishers like mine.
The more you do to it and change like the light can stress the plant and thats the last thing you want to do. How long a cannabis plant takes to finish is strain related. You can not speed up mother nature. The only way to finish it faster is to quit fucking with it plain and simple. Cut some of the yellow bottom leaves of so it gets more air and leave it alone.
 

bamboofarmer

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For sure.
The more you do to it and change like the light can stress the plant and thats the last thing you want to do. How long a cannabis plant takes to finish is strain related. You can not speed up mother nature. The only way to finish it faster is to quit fucking with it plain and simple. Cut some of the yellow bottom leaves of so it gets more air and leave it alone.
Yeah I think I'll take your advice and just keep on what I'm doing.
 

az2000

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Az2000 says shortening the photoperiod helped his plants finish,
I've never run shorter than 12/12, so I'm sure I didn't say that. :)

I've tried feeding water only to starve them into sensing some immanency. I tried higher PK (lower N). Nothing helped. They just take a long time.

I agree with growurowndank. I would call them finished.
 

bamboofarmer

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I've never run shorter than 12/12, so I'm sure I didn't say that. :)

I've tried feeding water only to starve them into sensing some immanency. I tried higher PK (lower N). Nothing helped. They just take a long time.

I agree with growurowndank. I would call them finished.
You're right, sorry about that. I somehow confused your post with slinkysaurus. Maybe I'll give one more week.
 

slinkysaurus

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I'm gonna have to disagree here with you guys.

It feels shit saying that to well know members, but in my experience the shorter photo period is what finished my plants off after 4 months of flower.

They were never gonna finish and they even if they ever did, it wouldn't have been cost effective.

I would really implore you to try something, not nessiscarily what I suggested, but I wouldn't be just giving in and calling them ready for the sake of it.

There are other tricks such as INCRESING the photo period and not just reducing it. Lots of info out there and other ways that have worked for other people.
If anyone disagrees, I say you're stuck in your ways. Your way isn't THE way.

Expand your trials and don't be afraid. They're more resilient than you give them credit for.
 

mike4c4

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I'm gonna have to disagree here with you guys.

It feels shit saying that to well know members, but in my experience the shorter photo period is what finished my plants off after 4 months of flower.

They were never gonna finish and they even if they ever did, it wouldn't have been cost effective.

I would really implore you to try something, not nessiscarily what I suggested, but I wouldn't be just giving in and calling them ready for the sake of it.

There are other tricks such as INCRESING the photo period and not just reducing it. Lots of info out there and other ways that have worked for other people.
If anyone disagrees, I say you're stuck in your ways. Your way isn't THE way.

Expand your trials and don't be afraid. They're more resilient than you give them credit for.
Disagree all you want but it dont make you right.
 

spek9

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I'm gonna have to disagree here with you guys.

It feels shit saying that to well know members, but in my experience the shorter photo period is what finished my plants off after 4 months of flower.

They were never gonna finish and they even if they ever did, it wouldn't have been cost effective.

I would really implore you to try something, not nessiscarily what I suggested, but I wouldn't be just giving in and calling them ready for the sake of it.

There are other tricks such as INCRESING the photo period and not just reducing it. Lots of info out there and other ways that have worked for other people.
If anyone disagrees, I say you're stuck in your ways. Your way isn't THE way.

Expand your trials and don't be afraid. They're more resilient than you give them credit for.
Did you do side-by-side trials? If not, you can't claim it helped them finish sooner. I'm not arguing with you; I'm just stating a fact.

If you did do equal trials, please share.

-spek
 

slinkysaurus

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Disagree all you want but it dont make you right.
At what point did I say I was right?? Don't make things up.

I think my point was that NO ONE is right and no one is wrong and there are other was to do things than in black and white, I'm just giving options rather than dictating.
 

slinkysaurus

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Did you do side-by-side trials? If not, you can't claim it helped them finish sooner. I'm not arguing with you; I'm just stating a fact.

If you did do equal trials, please share.

-spek
Yes they were side by side on my last grow. Hence why I'm sharing my experience.

Love it- I share my experience and the regulars jump on me! I must be a liar. Lol I'm certainly no forum expert, I had my own experience to share from and answers to seek.
 

Sunny Organics

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Hang in there man, what is your nute lineup? You might be low on K (potassium). It's critical to provide the correct kind/amount of food for their flowering phase, super important if you want fat dense nugs. Otherwise it might be genetics, maybe a diff pheno? They look like they're almost ready to me too.
 

mike4c4

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At what point did I say I was right?? Don't make things up.

I think my point was that NO ONE is right and no one is wrong and there are other was to do things than in black and white, I'm just giving options rather than dictating.
No i wasn't jumping on you but now i will. This it the point. He is very close to finishing and if he changes anything now it WILL take longer because it will have to adjust to anything he changes. So you told him to try something and risk putting the plant into shock? That is VERY bad advise. YOU ARE WRONG.
 

Sunny Organics

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No i wasn't jumping on you but now i will. This it the point. He is very close to finishing and if he changes anything now it WILL take longer because it will have to adjust to anything he changes. So you told him to try something and risk putting the plant into shock? That is VERY bad advise. YOU ARE WRONG.
Agreed, the plant looks nearly ready to me too if he wanted dense colas he had to do something about that before he even started flowering.
 

spek9

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Yes they were side by side on my last grow. Hence why I'm sharing my experience.

Love it- I share my experience and the regulars jump on me! I must be a liar. Lol I'm certainly no forum expert, I had my own experience to share from and answers to seek.
Like I said, I wasn't arguing :) I do different trials all the time, so I was legitimately interested in hearing if it was a real trial or not.

Do you happen to have pics of the grows by chance? I'd like to see the difference in the look of the plants.

-spek
 

slinkysaurus

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Like I said, I wasn't arguing :) I do different trials all the time, so I was legitimately interested in hearing if it was a real trial or not.

Do you happen to have pics of the grows by chance? I'd like to see the difference in the look of the plants.

-spek
I'm afraid I don't have any photos spec , but I wish I did as I wanted to compare to the current grow as there's a noted improvement in veg. That's why I signed up! :)


Mike-
again, your making things up. I never told him to try anything I said, I told him to look into other methods that didn't involve chopping it down so soon and to keep an open mind.

An hour less of light only "shocked" my 4 monthers into finishing up. They didn't get fatter they just went from clear to milky and amber within a week.
They're already dying.... That's what happens...

So I'm not wrong. You're just set in a way that you have been practicing for long enough, it doesn't make your word gospel, nor does it make mine.

You're being a fear monger to the OP and I think that's unfair. I don't have time for a pissing contest. I'm here to share my research and findings with other peoples. Thats what this place is for.
 
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mike4c4

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I'm afraid I don't have any photos spec , but I wish I did as I wanted to compare to the current grow as there's a noted improvement in veg. That's why I signed up! :)


Mike-
again, your making things up. I never told him to try anything I said, I told him to look into other methods that didn't involve chopping it down so soon and to keep an open mind.

An hour less of light only "shocked" my 4 monthers into finishing up. They didn't get fatter they just went from clear to milky and amber within a week.
They're already dying.... That's what happens...

So I'm not wrong. You're just set in a way that you have been practicing for long enough, it doesn't make your word gospel, nor does it make mine.

You're being a fear monger to the OP and I think that's unfair. I don't have time for a pissing contest. I'm here to share my research and findings with other peoples. Thats what this place is for.
Nope cant make this up bro. you said (I would really implore you to try something,) so what you didnt type "say" that?
And as far as to you sharing your research and findings with other peoples. you have already stated you have none on this mater. Where there has been extensiveness recherche on this as people have been trying to speed up a strain, everything from trying extra nutes, light cycles,to trying giving 3 days of no light. It cant be done. If you give a plant what it wants it finishes when its so post to. But if you make it take what it dont want for 4 mo. Then for the last week get it right that means nothing.
 

az2000

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in my experience the shorter photo period is what finished my plants off after 4 months of flower.
I'm going to try that next time. It makes a lot of sense. Why is 12/12 cast in concrete for all strains? My slow finishers are indicas which grow at northern latitudes. They would get more light (time) in the summer, and it would fall off quickly to less light in the fall.

I wouldn't have thought about this if you hadn't shared your experience.
 

bamboofarmer

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I'm gonna have to disagree here with you guys.

It feels shit saying that to well know members, but in my experience the shorter photo period is what finished my plants off after 4 months of flower.

They were never gonna finish and they even if they ever did, it wouldn't have been cost effective.

I would really implore you to try something, not nessiscarily what I suggested, but I wouldn't be just giving in and calling them ready for the sake of it.

There are other tricks such as INCRESING the photo period and not just reducing it. Lots of info out there and other ways that have worked for other people.
If anyone disagrees, I say you're stuck in your ways. Your way isn't THE way.

Expand your trials and don't be afraid. They're more resilient than you give them credit for.
I'm definitely not chopping yet. I honestly don't see how shortening the photo-period would hurt anything. Another 'well-known member' on my journal for this grow concurs with you as well. Obviously, there are mixed opinions on this topic. I may shorten 10 minutes per day, just to make sure they understand they are not in an everlasting cycle.

Here comes a ramble...feel free to ignore

It seems to me that if a marijuana plant begins flowering around the 12/12 mark, that keeping the photo-period right at 12/12 would keep the plant right at the threshold of re-vegging. Perhaps that would explain why light leaks are such a problem for indoor growers? I know some people like to grow 11/13 or whatever, but why not diminish the light schedule by a couple of minutes a day, that way, the plant can slowly and steadily build up the hormones or whatever that are required for flowering and finishing.
 
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