Skunk seeds just germinated from the mid 1980's - 35 years old!!!

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TheWholeTruth

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grayeyes said:
Kevin

Yesterday I was looking at Strainly. I saw an ad for Skunk posted by Dave Watson, "Sam the Skunkman" selling it for $5,000. I emailed Kevin Jodfrey who has been hunting Skunk for about 5 years. Kevin says he has Dave's seeds and they ain't the Skunk he is hunting. But there you go, news in the quest
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I just looked at that post, its certainly isnt the skunkmans post, and neither is that pack from skunkman nor has he ever sold seeds in that packaging. Its wierd cus the guy dont say why he is charging $5000 for that pack but when you read his list he lists skunk#1 as $1000. All very odd. The last sk#1 seeds sam himslf made would be around 1997 so thats nearly 25 year old seeds for the most modern version. The old ancestral skunk seeds wich were the earliest batches dont even germinate now and are sold in batches of 100-500 for very very cheep. Not sure what that guy is selling but it isnt seeds made by sam. The packaging looks familiar but I cant remember were ive seen it.
Even claims to have manatuska thunder f1 seeds ffor $500 wich I very much doubt. For them to be the f1 he would have to have the two parents that made the very very first atf. Which means he was the original creator of it and kept the parent all these years. Funny guy.

Edited, I remember were I seen those skunk packs before. Some guy called f1genetics. You can get the same packs for $60- $150. The guy makes no claim about them being directly from sam. Infact im sure they were a repro of tods skunk#1.
 
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Phytoplankton

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BongerChonger said:
Anything with an unpleasant odour seems to be labelled Skunk.
I'm not really sure it was ever different. Just a term to describe Cannabis that smelled to high heaven.
That's what I've always been told and choose to believe.
To me there's more than one "Skunky" smell.
From piss, shit, skunk and bad BO, to more pleasant smells like stale beer or hops.

Without knowing what the seeds are, I'd treat them all the same.
Try to hang onto what you have.
Take some cuttings.
Chuck some pollen, make some seed.

If you get some good plants in the resulting seed, hunt for more, aim for inbred seed.
More than anything, just have fun with it, lol.
But seeds would be a good way of trying to preserve what you have, besides cuttings.
Worth the hassle for the potential reward.
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I’m gonna disagree, I lived and grew in Humboldt County in the 70’s and early 80’s, skunk weed was skunk weed, I didn’t have a random unpleasant smell, it smelled like SKUNK! You could often smell it in the fall, driving down the country roads, ( But no dead skunks).
I’ve searched for a long time to find that old Humboldt strain, Haven’t found it yet.
 
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oldsilvertip55

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Phytoplankton said:
I’m gonna disagree, I lived and grew in Humboldt County in the 70’s and early 80’s, skunk weed was skunk weed, I didn’t have a random unpleasant smell, it smelled like SKUNK! You could often smell it in the fall, driving down the country roads, ( But no dead skunks).
I’ve searched for a long time to find that old Humboldt strain, Haven’t found it yet.
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loved those days before high tec hit. humbolt must have been a hell ,of a upbring back then, skunk everywhere!
 
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SkunkSkunkSkunk

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Update on what the slow forming buds are smelling like. Only one has buds that smells like skunk with freshly ground coffee. An amazing smell! Especially around sunrise and sunset. And the others smell like raw diesel or jet fuel, grape diesel, lemon diesel fuel, and one smells like sweet lemon pledge with lemon rind with no fuel smell. Ya I'm disappointed that only one came up smelling of skunk, but I'm now pretty excited about the diesel smells. Even the ones that reek of lemon are amazing. We'll see!
 
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Cpappa27

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SkunkSkunkSkunk said:
Update on what the slow forming buds are smelling like. Only one has buds that smells like skunk with freshly ground coffee. An amazing smell! Especially around sunrise and sunset. And the others smell like raw diesel or jet fuel, grape diesel, lemon diesel fuel, and one smells like sweet lemon pledge with lemon rind with no fuel smell. Ya I'm disappointed that only one came up smelling of skunk, but I'm now pretty excited about the diesel smells. Even the ones that reek of lemon are amazing. We'll see!
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Its still early. The smells can change dramatically between now and harvest.
 
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TheWholeTruth

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SkunkSkunkSkunk said:
Update on what the slow forming buds are smelling like. Only one has buds that smells like skunk with freshly ground coffee. An amazing smell! Especially around sunrise and sunset. And the others smell like raw diesel or jet fuel, grape diesel, lemon diesel fuel, and one smells like sweet lemon pledge with lemon rind with no fuel smell. Ya I'm disappointed that only one came up smelling of skunk, but I'm now pretty excited about the diesel smells. Even the ones that reek of lemon are amazing. We'll see!
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From a closer look at them and how there developing and what your describing I dont think they are skunk in the sense most of the community know of as now. Back in the days some people used to call any type of hybrid skunk. Its more likely you have a mostly Mexican or Brazilian type . You could cross a Colombian/afghan to what you have and get something close to whats recognized as skunk now. But your probably better off just keeping them intact as a pure heirloom and dropping the skunk tag. They look really nice as they are.
I get very strong fuel, leather, coffee and haze scents from a pure heirloom 1960s Mexican I hold. The leaves are different to yours. Yours reminds me more of a Brazilian type from the leaves and some pistols being pink. Actually im sure you could find the rarer wide leaf phenotype in the Brazilian im thinking of too just like the one you had .That strain type normally has a very strong lemon scent with hints of fuel and coffee, but once dryed a very pleasant mostly lemon scent and taste.

What ever the case with yours, if you like old school sativas im sure you will really enjoy the bud when finished, though they will take quite long.
 
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SkunkSkunkSkunk

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TheWholeTruth said:
From a closer look at them and how there developing and what your describing I dont think they are skunk in the sense most of the community know of as now. Back in the days some people used to call any type of hybrid skunk. Its more likely you have a mostly Mexican or Brazilian type . You could cross a Colombian/afghan to what you have and get something close to whats recognized as skunk now. But your probably better off just keeping them intact as a pure heirloom and dropping the skunk tag. They look really nice as they are.
I get very strong fuel, leather, coffee and haze scents from a pure heirloom 1960s Mexican I hold. The leaves are different to yours. Yours reminds me more of a Brazilian type from the leaves and some pistols being pink. Actually im sure you could find the rarer wide leaf phenotype in the Brazilian im thinking of too just like the one you had .That strain type normally has a very strong lemon scent with hints of fuel and coffee, but once dryed a very pleasant mostly lemon scent and taste.

What ever the case with yours, if you like old school sativas im sure you will really enjoy the bud when finished, though they will take quite long.
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Good info. Thanks.
I was thinking that the super lemon pledge smelling one could be the old Santa Maria weed. Not sure. But like you said, smells can change as the buds mature.

One more thing. Last week I accidentally broke a bud off one that has very little smell. Very little odor to the buds on this plant. Very weird. Any way, I dried it and smoked it last night, and oh my God it's the old weed I remember from the 90's. The taste is amazing! It's that old delicious dark caramel burnt nut flavor I remember. What a flashback! And definitely an indica. Nice body high. I passed out cold 30 minutes after smoking it last night. And this was a young bud loaded with seeds, and it still knocked me on my ass.
 
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SkunkSkunkSkunk

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Thanks everyone for the input. Unfortunately there is no skunk weed in this batch. After smoking some of the crop, it all tastes like old school weed. Everything has a dark flavored burnt caramel taste. Remember it? It's friggin delicious. Man what what a flashback. I definitely recognize this stuff from the late 80's/early 90's. Probably some Brazilian strains. The other thing is that every single bud is loaded with seeds. Pretty bummed out about that and I'll be much more careful next year, slaughtering the males early.
 
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Cookiezealous

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SkunkSkunkSkunk said:
Thanks everyone for the input. Unfortunately there is no skunk weed in this batch. After smoking some of the crop, it all tastes like old school weed. Everything has a dark flavored burnt caramel taste. Remember it? It's friggin delicious. Man what what a flashback. I definitely recognize this stuff from the late 80's/early 90's. Probably some Brazilian strains. The other thing is that every single bud is loaded with seeds. Pretty bummed out about that and I'll be much more careful next year, slaughtering the males early.
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I think those seeds are still worth some thing, especially if you basically just ran an open pollination with some old school seeds.
If there’s any more available, just let me know where to pick them up because that’s awesome.
Time and space with all those seeds you could dig through there and find some thing that you like
 
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SkunkSkunkSkunk

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Cookiezealous said:
I think those seeds are still worth some thing, especially if you basically just ran an open pollination with some old school seeds.
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Everything was open pollinated by old school males, so yes, definitely worth saving the seeds (so far I've collected about 1,000). They're literally everywhere. Not sure what to do with them all. I'd trade them online, but not sure if that's legal here in the U.S. They're such beautiful plants and I'm thrilled to have these old strains, but I don't think I'll be growing these behemoths again next year as they were just way too tall and they took forever to grow. But I really love the old school taste, and it smokes smooth with no coughing.... so ya, I'll probably grow a few of them next year. I'll just have to be more aggressive with pinching.

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conor c

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SkunkSkunkSkunk said:
Thanks everyone for the input. Unfortunately there is no skunk weed in this batch. After smoking some of the crop, it all tastes like old school weed. Everything has a dark flavored burnt caramel taste. Remember it? It's friggin delicious. Man what what a flashback. I definitely recognize this stuff from the late 80's/early 90's. Probably some Brazilian strains. The other thing is that every single bud is loaded with seeds. Pretty bummed out about that and I'll be much more careful next year, slaughtering the males early.
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Sounds like top 44 skunk x viking there are lemon and berry leaners too but the most common one ime is burnt sugar/caramel tasting ones idk only Brazilians ive tried are amazonian and mango and they taste nun like that maybe someone with more experience can chime in on that
 
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Cookiezealous

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Tolerance Break said:
The 2023 farm bill will change that if passed, and for the worse.
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That would really suck. I know for sure we are allowed to mail seeds now. I saw the info that the DEA put out. I think what screwed them is that a hemp seed is the same as a THC dominant seed. They are both seeds of that plant. Kind of like poppy seeds. You can get seeds to grow opium all day long or you can put them in a muffin. I don’t want the price for seed to skyrocket. That would suck lol
 
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