Skip the CFL's: The $20 150w complete HPS with ballast and bulb Link

It puts out 15,000 lumens and about the same heat as 15k lumens of cfl's would. I don't know what 26w cfl's put out for sure but it's probably in the 1500 lumen range so it would be equal to about 10 of them I'm guessing except for better because of more penetration and because HPS is just superior to CFL spectrum wise for veg.

My temps stay about the same with the addition of the HPS, and I kept some CFL's in there. If you cooltube the 150w then there is basically no heat.

Does anyone actually know of a person that has used the UFO LED? High Times had a recent article where THEY, themselves did a test with a UFO, 400w MH, 400w HPS, and 600w HPS.

Results:

1. UFO beat 400w MH with 12% more yield!!!
2. 400w HPS beat UFO with 5% more yield BUT UFO was more potent with more resin!!!
3. 600w HPS beat UFO with 20% more yield, BUT stated the cost saved by the UFO in electricity alone, offset the profits lost on yield!!!

High times has more than one article pertaining to this. They used the LED UFO by HID HUT in the lab test. This is a paragraph from the article:

In three separate trials, a high-powered LED (prototypes of HID Hut's UFO) was run in side-by-side experiments-once against a 400-watt MH bulb, once against a 400-watt HPS bulb, and once against a 600-watt HPS bulb. These trials used exactly the same conditions on both sides of the fence. The plants were cuttings taken from a single mother; the medium and grow systems were the same; and the nutrients and atmospheric conditions were kept identical. The only variable was the lamp provided. And, as usual, the results varied.

interesting but how many led's are there thousands???

Flo Grow said:

Does anyone actually know of a person that has used the UFO LED? High Times had a recent article where THEY, themselves did a test with a UFO, 400w MH, 400w HPS, and 600w HPS.

Results:

1. UFO beat 400w MH with 12% more yield!!!
2. 400w HPS beat UFO with 5% more yield BUT UFO was more potent with more resin!!!
3. 600w HPS beat UFO with 20% more yield, BUT stated the cost saved by the UFO in electricity alone, offset the profits lost on yield!!!

High times has more than one article pertaining to this. They used the LED UFO by HID HUT in the lab test. This is a paragraph from the article:

In three separate trials, a high-powered LED (prototypes of HID Hut's UFO) was run in side-by-side experiments-once against a 400-watt MH bulb, once against a 400-watt HPS bulb, and once against a 600-watt HPS bulb. These trials used exactly the same conditions on both sides of the fence. The plants were cuttings taken from a single mother; the medium and grow systems were the same; and the nutrients and atmospheric conditions were kept identical. The only variable was the lamp provided. And, as usual, the results varied.

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Those are crap reviews from a crap magazine, if i had the money I could get High Times to do a write up on the benefit of firefly's during flowering

why is a three-prong cord required? why won't a standard indoor extension cord work? they handle at least 1625w (and 125v), so what's the deal? why does the fixture need to have a grounded plug (keep in mind a lot of houses still aren't grounded...regardless of having three-prong outlets)?


so yeah, what's the deal with that?

johnbell2 said:

why is a three-prong cord required? why won't a standard indoor extension cord work? they handle at least 1625w (and 125v), so what's the deal? why does the fixture need to have a grounded plug (keep in mind a lot of houses still aren't grounded...regardless of having three-prong outlets)?


so yeah, what's the deal with that?

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There is no reason you couldn't but I didn't write up directions for that simply because I don't want anyone giving me crap about it.

Plus since we are talking a lot of installations near water or sources of water finding a 3 prong cord and grounding it isn't really asking too much.

Comes with a ground wire, might as well use it.

Flo Grow said:

Does anyone actually know of a person that has used the UFO LED? High Times had a recent article where THEY, themselves did a test with a UFO, 400w MH, 400w HPS, and 600w HPS.

Results:

1. UFO beat 400w MH with 12% more yield!!!
2. 400w HPS beat UFO with 5% more yield BUT UFO was more potent with more resin!!!
3. 600w HPS beat UFO with 20% more yield, BUT stated the cost saved by the UFO in electricity alone, offset the profits lost on yield!!!

High times has more than one article pertaining to this. They used the LED UFO by HID HUT in the lab test. This is a paragraph from the article:

In three separate trials, a high-powered LED (prototypes of HID Hut's UFO) was run in side-by-side experiments-once against a 400-watt MH bulb, once against a 400-watt HPS bulb, and once against a 600-watt HPS bulb. These trials used exactly the same conditions on both sides of the fence. The plants were cuttings taken from a single mother; the medium and grow systems were the same; and the nutrients and atmospheric conditions were kept identical. The only variable was the lamp provided. And, as usual, the results varied.

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yeah but those are expensive!

have the cords already...didn't wanna use them if not necessary...

I'm still not sure about the LED's 100%, but I do believe we are just around the corner from them actually working equal to or better than hps. But they will cost too damn much and only be afforded by as well as benefit commercial growers.

hey, so say i had a 400 watt mh/ vapor lamp, if i got 3 or 4 of these id be set fir my veg and my flowering?

Mammoth22 said:

hey, so say i had a 400 watt mh/ vapor lamp, if i got 3 or 4 of these id be set fir my veg and my flowering?

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Yea

It certainly wouldn't be as efficient electricity wise as running just one 400hps, or give quite as many lumens though.

I guess it depends on what the best deal is you can find on a 400 as to which way would be better.

Don't run a mercury vapor bulb in that ballast of yours though... Won't grow half as well as a halide. (I'm sure you probably know this, just said it in case you didn't.)

That would be a lot of light for some serious killer if you ran them all for flowering... 400 halide and 4x 150w.

dood its says 9,999 dollars hardly 20$ haha

wow site is messed up now it says 25..

do you think i could put a 70 watt hps in this i have a micro grow going and 70 watt hps would be perfect

hold on, you say it will only be good for 2 grows in your 3rd post.? how is that, cant be THAT cheap of quality, is it?

I BOUGHT ONE!

the $20 is done, they have the in-ceiling ones for $25 , shipped it was $37.

THE BEST DAMN $37 DOLLARS I HAVE SPENT!

was using same wattage in cfls and what a difference!

Mammoth22 said:

hold on, you say it will only be good for 2 grows in your 3rd post.? how is that, cant be THAT cheap of quality, is it?

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I'm talking about replacing the BULB before it's output drops too much as lights of all types do. Not the fixture/ballast. It's like $5, why not.


And to the other guy, No you can't put a 70w bulb in a 150w ballast, sorry.

Yes the $20 pole mount is gone now, but the $25 is available. Now a minute later neither are available.

I don't know, seems like deal is dead dead dead.

they discontinued the 150hps due to lack of sales. That blows big balls.

Lack of sales? I doubt that. Did you call them and get that info or what?