signs of good soil conditions?

I just want to plant straight into the ground.. I hear pine trees mean the soil is to acidic.. cat tails means to wet.. Im thinking good places are where weeds/grass. grow.(not the marijuana type)

you can grow near pines if you help neutralize the soil with some lime. Wet lands are a hit and miss due to fact they are prone to flooding, but if placed poorly you never have to water or really return to your crop.

P.S. you've been praised for your avy

You really might want to look into using some sort of compost or soil if you want some good yeilds? Are you going to water or use nutes either, or just plant and go??

Check out this thread, it's right up your alley.

https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/174700-guerilla-qs-area.html

Hope it helps.

First look for lush, vigorously growing vegetation (no brainer). Generally darker soils are higher in organic matter but may also be low in soil pH. Soils that are redder /orangish tend to be high in iron and may also have a very low pH. Take about 1-2 cups of soil (a few tablespoons/site for a representitive sample) to your county agricultural extension office for testing. Once the basics are known you can easily determine if soil amendments are warranted and, are often suggested by the extension office for growing your "tomatoes." Soil tests are frequently done for a small fee or, in some instances performed for free. Avoid areas that contain sagegrass, cedar trees or clover as they typically are low in micro-nutrients, in particular Nitrogen. Legumes such as clover, peas, peanuts and soybeans manufacture their own nitrogen and are often indicative of poor soils.

Mco2405 said:

You really might want to look into using some sort of compost or soil if you want some good yeilds? Are you going to water or use nutes either, or just plant and go??

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thanks for all the help people, ya I dont have much cash to spend on soil... I just have a shit load of bag seed.. im hopeing to just plant and let nature take its course... im not sure how well weed grows.. this will be my first grow.. It will more then likely die on me

flatrider said:

I just want to plant straight into the ground.. I hear pine trees mean the soil is to acidic.. cat tails means to wet.. Im thinking good places are where weeds/grass. grow.(not the marijuana type)

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depends on sun too i have pine trees where i had my 20 ftr and she came out fine

Carl Spackler said:

First look for lush, vigorously growing vegetation (no brainer). Generally darker soils are higher in organic matter but may also be low in soil pH. Soils that are redder /orangish tend to be high in iron and may also have a very low pH. Take about 1-2 cups of soil (a few tablespoons/site for a representitive sample) to your county agricultural extension office for testing. Once the basics are known you can easily determine if soil amendments are warranted and, are often suggested by the extension office for growing your "tomatoes." Soil tests are frequently done for a small fee or, in some instances performed for free. Avoid areas that contain sagegrass, cedar trees or clover as they typically are low in micro-nutrients, in particular Nitrogen. Legumes such as clover, peas, peanuts and soybeans manufacture their own nitrogen and are often indicative of poor soils.

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I see this is thread went dead, ha and it's going to be my first post. But i've been doing some reading because I plan on growing with soil and one with hydroponics just to see which one's cheaper, the quality and all different types of things. Kinda looking at it like a cool science experiment. Anyhow I've been reading for soil it may be a good idea to plant with companion plants. It's done with a lot of other plants so why not marijuana right? I've read that clovers and such will actually help provide nitrogen the clover excretes from the roots and more or less free game for surrounding plants. Companion planting was a really cool idea, kinda like the friendliest neighbors on the planet " hey man make my nutes and i'll make yours" I don't know much about it though but clovers wont deprive plants of nitrogen it will actually supply it am I wrong?

One of the best places i used to love to go was into briar patches...HUGE pricker bushes the bigger the better...you have to wear some protective gear to get in them but when ya do you can clear out one or two in the middle of the patch. Usually they have been there long enough to kill off pretty much all the other vegitation and the ground is super easy to prepare. the one big drawback to this is clearing the area itself.

Hmmm lot's of opinions not good.

Stay away from pines, stay away from berry bushes, stay away if the soil is to "sandy", stay away from deer runs, stay away from the soil that has "grey" in it cause that is clay, stay away from soil that is too thick " no air in soil and weak drainage", away if the native plants seem to burn as they grow "acidic and usually sandy".

There are plants that will only grow in "acidic soil" it is best to learn the most common ones in your area - that way you do not have to waste your time looking at the ground!. I find the good ground with my eyes looking strait ahead. And you will to someday but you must learn the tricks of the trade - which will come naturally in time.

I have grown monsters in native soils - I like the black dirt that is light and comes up in tiny balls of dirt "very airy and fertal". I will give you one bit of advise and that is to buy a bag of perlite or vermiculite and use a few handfulls of either to enhance the airy and drainage abilities of your native soil. - there are more things to stay away from but we gotta teach ya how to build a fire not just start one. so you can find em out on your own. Good luck

I know you want what's best for your babies..But one must remember, it's a weed! It will grow and thrive in a variety of soils.

My grow last year used my native soil (Called Rockford rocky loam) and amended it with shit from my chickens and occasionally some chicken shit tea,mixed with worm castings, black strap Molasses and a little Fox Farms Tiger Bloom.

I ended up with about 2 pounds of really high quality weed.

I paid about 4 bucks for the molasses, 16 bucks for the Tiger Bloom and 30 bucks for three one foot tall plants from a medical grower.