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Sideways or Vertical?????????

Discussion in 'CFL / Fluorescent Lighting' started by chillwills, Feb 22, 2011.

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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member

    Why do most of you hang your CFLs vertically and not sideways? Wouldn't sideways bulbs give off more light because of more surface area?

    Are there any studies or comparisons that have been done?

    Its not like an hps that is pumping out tons of lumens.

    I guess i want to hear from those who have tried both.
     
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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member

    sheesh. why didnt this post make it to "new posts?"

    I am very interested in getting to the bottom of this
     
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    Metasynth

    Metasynth Well-Known Member

    Yes, sideways is better, but out of laziness or just ease of setup, many of us put them diagonal or vertical, oh well! But you are correct, more surface area=more lumens
     
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    Gastanker

    Gastanker Well-Known Member

    You need to look at the specific CFLs cast pattern. One second and I'll s/s a few - generally haning downwards is better - they are designed to cast to the sides in a forward direction (don't ask me how they do this)

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    This would be the bulb hanging downwards - with a reflector this is amplified.
     
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    WvMade

    WvMade Well-Known Member

    Yea i can tell with my 65 watt cfls hanging up and down all the lights down down and above it you can tell theres not much going up, so i think if your gonna put them sideways to deff need some type of reflecter
     
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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member

    sweet ,thank you sir.

    I always figured if you can only get the plant 2 or 3 inches away from the light, you would want as much coverage as possible.

    but Ive seen people say vertical is better....i assume it is because they have a vertical setup lol.

    it does seem alot easier to hook up a bunch of splitters and just let your plants hang like most people do.

    I guess maybe if you dont LST and your plant stretches it might be better to go vertical
     
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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member


    where did you find this at?
     
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    WvMade

    WvMade Well-Known Member

    Yea i hang mine and i get pretty close 1-2 inches 2 while there young then later on i can get about an inch. i've put them so close that overnight they grow and touch the bulbs so i gotta raise them in the morning
     
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    Gastanker

    Gastanker Well-Known Member

    I would say to SCROG or to hang the bulbs within the canopy. If you submerse a bulb almost all of its light is directly hitting vegetative matter in every direction - this is by far the most advantageous. I think there was another plant infront of those removed for the picture. Small bulbs up top and bigger bulbs below works to produce great lollipops.

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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member

    Nice Gastanker.. Definitely something i need to consider
     
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    WvMade

    WvMade Well-Known Member

    Cfls are great i love'em
     
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    Gastanker

    Gastanker Well-Known Member

    Current tent uses fluoros on the sides and HID up top but my next project is going to be all Fluoros. CFLs up top and 4' T5s placed throughout.

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    Still calculating what would work best for 4x4 space and lollipops.
     
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    WvMade

    WvMade Well-Known Member

    What are lollipops i keep seeing ppl say this but never notice what there really talking about
     
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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member

    They definitely bridge the gap between those who want to grow and cant use HID. a godsend
     
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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member

    Wow Gastanker!! Is that your tent? freakin nice
     
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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member

    lollipopping is when you grow your plant single cola style w/ just the main cola. Just like his virtual pic above
     
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    Gastanker

    Gastanker Well-Known Member

    Lollipop is a plant that is mostly cola with a very narrow profile.

    Three of those in the bathtub would be considered lollipops if I cut off the very lowest braches. Lolliopops allow for large numbers of plants in small areas with small veg times to maximize bud and minimize the rest of the plant matter.
     
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    Gastanker

    Gastanker Well-Known Member

    Hehe, thanks. They were throwing those away at the local hospital - x-ray print viewers (they go all digital now).
     
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    chillwills

    chillwills Well-Known Member

    exactly. you do away w/ any side branching and get rid of everthing that would end up "popcorn buds"
     
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    WvMade

    WvMade Well-Known Member

    Thats cool one of my plants looks like its lolipoping on its own this isn't a good pic but its a underneath snap shot
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