Sickmeds William's Wonder: grow journal. review and all things Wiliams Wonder

Plants have had 40 days total veg time; now its time for flower.

These were deliberately kept small during veg; I'm sure they could have gotten larger in bigger pots under more light, had I wanted to do that.

Female plant was put into 3 gallon bucket for 12-12 hour flowering under 250W HPS.



Plant has been previously topped 1x, and I opened the plant up a bit using "low stress training" (back in the day, we used to call that "bending") to let a little more light in and hopefully bulk up the colas a bit. Put a little piece of tape in the middle to help keep the spread. Note that the leaves are actually dark green; the HPS lighting is distorting the color and making them seem more yellow.

i have started cloning the same way but without any gel or powders, just throw it in the water and shake the water every day or 2 for oxygen and i had roots in 8 days last time!

greenghost420 said:

i have started cloning the same way but without any gel or powders, just throw it in the water and shake the water every day or 2 for oxygen and i had roots in 8 days last time!

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But that's so much extra work.

OK, seriously, some strains are easier to clone than others, and it also depends what part of the plant you're trying to clone and when. If you're trying to clone a still soft/green branch when the plant is in rapid veg growth, it usually takes off pretty fast.

This one seemed to root pretty easily.

Awesome thread. Am growing the previously mentioned 60 Day Wonder (as you know). Hopefully these become commercially available soon so I can try them....Although I do have one question/observation...

I have heard of the Super Sativa Seed Club...but WW is an indica? Strange that one of the most famous strains from a "Sativa" club should be an indica, no?

Hitch said:

Awesome thread. Am growing the previously mentioned 60 Day Wonder (as you know). Hopefully these become commercially available soon so I can try them....

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They're commercially available NOW. . .or at least they were until recently. They appear to be sold out at Cannazon and Sea of Seeds.

I know they will be coming back to these other sites eventually, but if you're interested, you might try contacting the breeder directly. . .they may (or may not) still have some beans available for sale.

Although I do have one question/observation...

I have heard of the Super Sativa Seed Club...but WW is an indica? Strange that one of the most famous strains from a "Sativa" club should be an indica, no?

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First of all, while today we take for granted that there are dozens of ceed-banks operating all over the world, Super Sativa Seed Club was the first company of its sort to commercially sell cannabis ceeds globally. Even though SSSC has been defunct since the early 1990s, more than 20 years now, you can get an excellent historical sense of what they once offered here in this thread: http://tinyurl.com/d8nn2df

The company name itself was just a just a name, not a description of their catalog. If you take a look, you'll see that despite the name, the SSSC commercial lineup included several pure indica lines (including Afghan #1, William's Wonder, etc) as well as a number of Indica/sativa hybrids. Some of their mainstays are still around and/or famous (eg Afghan #1, Skunk #1, Durban Poison, etc).

The business was effectively taken over by the Sensi ceed bank run by Ben Dronkers. So the legacy of the SSSC lives on, at least in descendant form today, even if the original company is gone.

On Williams' Wonder, you can read the history of that line at the top of this thread. My understanding is that despite what some think/suggest SSSC didn't actually create this line, they just sold the ceeds.

From having smoked it back in the mid 1990s, I can tell you the effect is classic indica couchlock. In terms of growing it, so far everything suggests an indica, from the wide dark green leaves, to the short bushy "Christmas tree" plant structure.

Here's another shot of the plant 6 days after starting 12-12:

Jogro said:

http://tinyurl.com/d8nn2df

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Great link man. Thanks

awesome link! still reading it all....

Sick Meds now at Hemp Depot http://hempdepot.ca/ Williams Wonder not available atm...Tried to place on line order directly w/ Sick Meds 2wks ago. Got a very timely reply stating I would be contacted after first of the year...FWIW

Natural Gas said:

Sick Meds now at Hemp Depot http://hempdepot.ca/ Williams Wonder not available atm...Tried to place on line order directly w/ Sick Meds 2wks ago. Got a very timely reply stating I would be contacted after first of the year...FWIW

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Thanks for the tip.

Here are some of the Sickmeds stock images, lifted from the Hemp Depot website:



Fairly massive buds there; I can see why this one has a reputation of being a heavy yielder.

All my pictures are gone too

truepunk87 said:

All my pictures are gone too

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I see that. Bummer.

Any idea what's going on here?
Mods? Anyone?

Is it a temporary glitch?
Were the pictures accidentally deleted by the server?
Deliberately deleted by the mods?

I can deal with any of the above, I'd just like to know what's going on.

There isn't a lot of point in finishing this journal (or my others) if I can't post more pictures, or if any images I do post are quickly deleted.

Jogro said:

I see that. Bummer.

Any idea what's going on here?
Mods? Anyone?

Is it a temporary glitch?
Were the pictures accidentally deleted by the server?
Deliberately deleted by the mods?

I can deal with any of the above, I'd just like to know what's going on.

There isn't a lot of point in finishing this journal (or my others) if I can't post more pictures, or if any images I do post are quickly deleted.

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Oddly enough, they're not all gone. It's sort of hit or miss.

I've admin'ed several vBulletin forums, but they were all warez forums so we don't host images. Question....If you go to "edit" the post, do you see the images in your editor? God I hate WYSIWYG editing.

Images are sometimes hosted on a separate part of a server...could be down. Hopefully that's all and they're not just gone.

OK, forum mod told me there is some sort of system glitch thats preventing some of the uploaded images from displaying, and they're working on fixing it.

Hopefully this isn't an external hack, and will be fixed up soon.

Anyway, after this gets fixed, I'll post some updates.

Edit: This is frustrating . . .here is a new test image to see if this issue has been fixed yet:

Grrrrrrr. The image I just uploaded appears to be in my attachments. . .every OTHER one appears to be gone. . .ouch. I hate to have to re-upload and repost everything, though maybe I will have to do that if RIU has lost these images permanently.

In the meantime, here is day 13 of flowering. Plant has done a little stretching, but not much, and nice buds are starting to form.

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Day 18 flowering:



Flowers are already starting to get resiny less than three weeks in. That's a good sign I think.

Edit: Forgot to mention, flowers are putting off a distinct citrus-like scent now, a bit like tangerines.

OK, because of the crash, I'm re-uploading all the pictures:

Original ad copy for Williams' Wonder from from Super Sativa Seedbank, circa late 1980s:


Sickmeds lab test report


Sickmeds stock bud images:


Sickmeds ceed packs:

Here is the entire beginning of the grow, recapped:

Ceeds:


3 days after watering ceeds:


9 days:


13 days, 18-6 under CFL:


17 days:


28 days:


Day 1 flowering 12-12 under 250W HPS:


Day 2 flower, with "low stress training":


Day 6 flower:


And that brings us up to date. Sorry about the reposts, but I have no idea if/when the images I posted earlier will come back up again, and I don't want anyone coming here for info not to have it.

End of flowering recap:

Day 13 flower:


Day 18 flower:


And update:

Day 24 flower:


Plant is staying low and compact with very little stretch, maybe 50%. Overall shape would be a classic indica "christmas tree", though I've opened it up by topping and with my LST. Buds are starting to gain mass already and resin production is fairly high for only three weeks in, with resin already covering the bud ("sugar") leaves and parts of the fan leaves too.

The scent is citrus like and sweet, maybe a combination of tangerines and grapefruit. Its not overwhelming, but not "mild" either. . .sort of medium. I remembered smelling something like this before, but had a bit of trouble remembering. Then it hit me:



I find it kind of fitting that this old-school strain from the late 1980s happens to smell like a popular beverage from the late 1980s! Anyway, for those who haven't had the "pleasure" Ecto cooler was basically a kids tangerine flavored fruit punch, only for marketing reasons colored green like the "slimer" character from the movie Ghostbusters. (Green? hmm. . .coincidence?).

That drink was the shit when I was like 4 lol..... I miss it now who ya gonna call??? GHOSTBUSTERS!!!