Shroom Stems
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420ganja420
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......was this a joke question? Why would people eat them if they didnt?
Pumert
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Well out here they sell eights of just caps so i assumed that it must be the spores or somthing that do it
well percentage wise in your opinion how much of the trip comes from the cap and how much comes from the stem like 90%cap nd 10%stem or what?
And well to answer why would people eat them if they didnt
why do people drink bong water? why do people eat the tequila worm? why do people scrape together shake from the bottom of all there old bags?
Cuz they are desperate for somthing to happen
well percentage wise in your opinion how much of the trip comes from the cap and how much comes from the stem like 90%cap nd 10%stem or what?
And well to answer why would people eat them if they didnt
why do people drink bong water? why do people eat the tequila worm? why do people scrape together shake from the bottom of all there old bags?
Cuz they are desperate for somthing to happen
Mr.KushMan
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Pumert
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No cuz theres really not allot of spores in a 10 syringe that would be a waste of money cuz fer basically the same price you could an eigth
pokesalotasmot
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Dude, wtf you come in here asking a legitimate question, then when you get responses, you dispute those responses? You're an idiot.
The whole fruiting body of the mushroom (from the base of the stem, up to the top of the cap) is ALL hallucinogenic. The spores, however, are not. The laws are set up against shrooms because they are a hallucinogen; if the spores where hallucinogenic, they wouldn't be legal for sale.
You will get off on stems just as much as you would from caps. Some dealers say caps are everything, probably because they want some dumbass who doesn't know any better to fall for it and end up paying a premium price.
I myself am proof; i've eaten JUST stems many times and have gotten off just as well than if it was all caps. Its still all dried weight. Do your homework.
Ichi
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Here is some info that was on the Shroomery Forum. This is evidently from a Japanese study.
"The psilocin/psilocybin contents in P. cubensis were in the range of 0.170.78%/0.441.35% in the cap and 0.090.30%/0.051.27% in the stem. Hallucinogenic alkaloids (psilocin and psilocybin) have a tendency to be contained in the cap more than the stem. Our results are in agreement with the findings of Wurst et al. [8] who found lower concentrations of psilocybin in the stem than in the cap of the hallucinogenic fungus, Psilocybe bohemica. P. cubensis samples also had a tendency to contain larger amounts of psilocybin than psilocin. This tendency is consistent with results reported by Bigwood and Beug [4]......"
"The psilocin/psilocybin contents in P. cubensis were in the range of 0.170.78%/0.441.35% in the cap and 0.090.30%/0.051.27% in the stem. Hallucinogenic alkaloids (psilocin and psilocybin) have a tendency to be contained in the cap more than the stem. Our results are in agreement with the findings of Wurst et al. [8] who found lower concentrations of psilocybin in the stem than in the cap of the hallucinogenic fungus, Psilocybe bohemica. P. cubensis samples also had a tendency to contain larger amounts of psilocybin than psilocin. This tendency is consistent with results reported by Bigwood and Beug [4]......"
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Pumert
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all i said was 1 response wouldnt make sense because the amount of spores in syringe is not as much as in a cap
so just because i challenge a response someone gives me doesnt make me an idiot. Because sum1 tells u on the internet that they are right doesnt 100% mean that they are.
nd i dnt pay premium price its just an eight of caps for $25
colombiangrower
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Yes not alot but the stems do work if you have A LOT to eat, the drug is concentrated in the cap. Look at the stem as a straw , there is only trace amounts left behind in a straw. Thats how shrooms work. so eat a shit load of stems and you'll get off.
ANC
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look, this is a well researched topic, and the info is freely available through search engines...
The spores thing, you just sucked out of your arse, just because you realy want something to be a certain way, isn't going to make it so.
As for the cap/stem thing, the diffirence is so small, you'd be silly to throw 90% of your havest away. Don't know how your merchants make a living, but you sure are getting primo product. The stems tend to cause more stomach discomfort.
The spores thing, you just sucked out of your arse, just because you realy want something to be a certain way, isn't going to make it so.
As for the cap/stem thing, the diffirence is so small, you'd be silly to throw 90% of your havest away. Don't know how your merchants make a living, but you sure are getting primo product. The stems tend to cause more stomach discomfort.
colombiangrower
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ANC wrote: "As for the cap/stem thing, the diffirence is so small, you'd be silly to throw 90% of your havest away."
Dude that is so not true! It is by mass! The stem is normally 1/5 of the the whole. You get LESS then 1/5 of subtance out of the stem alone, the stem only a conduit it does not retain and hold the drug like the cap. There is a presence but it is alot less then the cap, due to mass and weight.
READ the studies!!! Then after you read them try to understand them! They are all based on weight and mass. The stem has a certain % but it is far less then then cap. The stem also carries high amounts of aresnics and other impureties that the cap does not, hence the stomach aches.
Read university studies, Harvard, UF, USF, Cal tech, MIT. They all have public studies of shrooms. Educate yourself quit being lazy.
Dude that is so not true! It is by mass! The stem is normally 1/5 of the the whole. You get LESS then 1/5 of subtance out of the stem alone, the stem only a conduit it does not retain and hold the drug like the cap. There is a presence but it is alot less then the cap, due to mass and weight.
READ the studies!!! Then after you read them try to understand them! They are all based on weight and mass. The stem has a certain % but it is far less then then cap. The stem also carries high amounts of aresnics and other impureties that the cap does not, hence the stomach aches.
Read university studies, Harvard, UF, USF, Cal tech, MIT. They all have public studies of shrooms. Educate yourself quit being lazy.
Pumert
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Arsenic? wow thats icky
420ganja420
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If the active ingredients (psilocin/psilocybin) were in the spore syringes and prints then they would be illegal to order. All of them are 100% legal until the mycelium develops (as it contains both Schedule I psychoactives in the USA). There are a few states that have banned prints and syringes but that's only like 3 of them (I guessed that. All i know is CA, ID, and GA that banned them)
If people are only selling caps, the price is probably higher or they like loosing money....
I currently am vacationing in one of my homes in New Mexico and as of June 15, 2005 growing mushrooms for the purpose of personal use is not considered "growing a controlled substance" by state law but it is illegal to grow federally. I will be growing some soon (ordered syringes already) so I will be legally (state legally anyway) be growing mushrooms.
If people are only selling caps, the price is probably higher or they like loosing money....
I currently am vacationing in one of my homes in New Mexico and as of June 15, 2005 growing mushrooms for the purpose of personal use is not considered "growing a controlled substance" by state law but it is illegal to grow federally. I will be growing some soon (ordered syringes already) so I will be legally (state legally anyway) be growing mushrooms.
pokesalotasmot
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Since when is arsenic in shroom stems? Are we even talking about the same species of mushrooms anymore? Amanita muscaria mushrooms have many more toxins than any psilocybe. IMO psilocybe stems always contain psilocin and psilocybin. Thats where the bluing reaction comes from, is the psilocin breaking down into psilocybin.
I've had psilocybe mushrooms (from the same flush) both indoor grown, and picked from the wild, that had differing bluing reactions in the stems. Right now, in my possesion, is an individual cubie shroom that has had a massive bluing reaction in the stem. But in that same flush, i've had some that had had a mininal reaction in the stem.
IMO, each INDIVIDUAL shroom is just like a person: they are all different. I don't care what studies say; mushrooms are far too complex an entity to really have an understanding EXACTLY how potent (on average) the different parts are. Cubies are an excellent example, they grow all over the world, and have varing potencys. How can someone test a few samples and say, oh well this is the way it is for all of these, no matter where in the world they grow! gimme a break; i don't believe it.
Just give me all your stems, i'll eat them if you don't want them.
