Should I give up on these now or stick it out (PH problems)

Freekier1

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Since switching to LEDS I've had some issues to work through, hopefully this is the last one.. I have never worried about PH before , but somehow forgot how important it is to add lime to my soil.
Stats
Cob LED about 35 watts per square foot measured from the wall, light level at plants 35,000 lux to 55,0000 lux at top of canopy
Synthetic fertilizer , regular and bloom
Temps 75-78
Leaf surface temp 74-76
Scrog

Really would like to here from growers that have had similar problems and took them to harvest anyways.
My trigger finger is itching to toss some of them.
 

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chemphlegm

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I've had sim issues, before I picked up my first grow bible, that fixed every issue in the grow room forever.
cracks me up when new posters have spent the cash to go this far and then talk about itchy trigger fingers to throw it in the garbage.
you have over fed your plants, like more is better? your roots are ill, might be best to clone those you want and root them for next time.
whenever flowering goes this awry I've never seen any worthwhile ends resulting, least none making up for the cost of continuing.

dont panic grow organic next time, this shit never happens to me anymore.
 
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Freekier1

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Yeah, once they are past 2 weeks in flower the writing seems to be on the wall...damn it!
Lucky I have plenty of clones to take their place already...it just sucks wasting 6 weeks.
 

Freekier1

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I've had sim issues, before I picked up my first grow bible, that fixed ever issue in the grow room forever.
cracks me up when new posters have spent the cash to go this far and then talk about itchy trigger fingers to throw it in the garbage.
you have over fed your plants, like more is better? your roots are ill, might be best to clone those you want and root them for next time.
whenever flowering goes this awry I've never seen any worthwhile ends resulting, least none making up for the cost of continuing.

dont panic grow organic next time, this shit never happens to me anymore.
What organic nutrients would you suggest , really tired of nute and ph problems I would rather spend a few more bucks at this point.
 

chemphlegm

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What organic nutrients would you suggest , really tired of nute and ph problems I would rather spend a few more bucks at this point.
I've been full circle, and came to found no better than Organicare dry fertilizer, per instructions, no issues at all.
 

chemphlegm

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Awesome , gonna take you at your word and order them right now...do you do hydro or soil btw?
four gallons promix hp
per directions scooped ferts periodically, grow in veg and first couple feedings in flower
then bloom formula till finish
one gallon of water when pot is dry again.
I skip the last addition of ferts before harvest.
 

Freekier1

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four gallons promix hp
per directions scooped ferts periodically, grow in veg and first couple feedings in flower
then bloom formula till finish
one gallon of water when pot is dry again.
I skip the last addition of ferts before harvest.
Perfect, I am only going to use the bloom version , never have problems during veg . I transplant my clones into bigger pots at the beginning of flower ...I hope this is the last nutrient problem ever...mad dissapointed but I did catch it before most of them were ruined ...damn!
 

Freekier1

Member
I've had sim issues, before I picked up my first grow bible, that fixed ever issue in the grow room forever.
cracks me up when new posters have spent the cash to go this far and then talk about itchy trigger fingers to throw it in the garbage.
you have over fed your plants, like more is better? your roots are ill, might be best to clone those you want and root them for next time.
whenever flowering goes this awry I've never seen any worthwhile ends resulting, least none making up for the cost of continuing.

dont panic grow organic next time, this shit never happens to me anymore.
I did eventually over feed for the simple reason that I had PH lock out and my plants were showing deficency...I flushed but then did a run off test and it was like 5.2 PH...totally blown!
 

chemphlegm

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I did eventually over feed for the simple reason that I had PH lock out and my plants were showing deficency...I flushed but then did a run off test and it was like 5.2 PH...totally blown!

and there is the common issue.
you see a deficiency even though you're feeding properly.
you add what you believe the plant is deficient in without knowing why
its deficient. Those def charts are great for someone growing in a driveway crack without
nutrients, you see it need some, so you add them. but most of us now use really good nutrients instead,
yet we still subscribe to this hurry up and add what we think is deficient. then the plant deaths occur.
so then we flush and make it worse.
honestly, every bit of this is covered in the first chapters of any quality gro bible, it saves so much money and time
with so little effort. alternatively you could receive a hundred diff responses, rely on personality, fight resolution to make your decision, only to find out it was another newby who had this one trick that sorta worked for him.
check out/follow a grow bible to avoid ALL issues, all ill advice, and enjoy success, repeatable success.

the plant may have stopped up taking certain items for several reasons. ph, temps, humidity, lack of oxygen/c02,
molds/mildews, pests, etc. so adding anything to the mix besides water if its dry is redundant, overfeeding, depleting oxygen, killing
root zone bene's, killing roots, changing ph, and burning plant parts.

most often all these plants really need is better controls, a break from their caregivers' bad habits and misunderstandings.
 
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