Japanfreak
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I'll stop here. Brick I and you both know you don't have experience with this, better talk to the kiddies who think you are the bomb.
Should i cut my fan leaves?
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Japanfreak
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No he isn't. Brick just loves rewording other's ideas into long drawn out arguments amounting to nothing. Some people are impressed.
Japanfreak
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When a topic like this comes up people are always excited to prove that they can repeat shit they heard to disprove something they don't have experience with.......Sad
They tell you your yield will be shit - I tell them my yield was the same
They say there is no prove - I show them some pics
They say pics aren't prove, not scientific.
But the only thing they have to offer to disprove what I'm saying is hearsay, they won't admit that it's hearsay but that's what it is.
So for anybody who wants their eyes opened up to how sad these people are....try removing some leafs on a branch and laugh at how wrong they are. It's pretty funny when you know.
They tell you your yield will be shit - I tell them my yield was the same
They say there is no prove - I show them some pics
They say pics aren't prove, not scientific.
But the only thing they have to offer to disprove what I'm saying is hearsay, they won't admit that it's hearsay but that's what it is.
So for anybody who wants their eyes opened up to how sad these people are....try removing some leafs on a branch and laugh at how wrong they are. It's pretty funny when you know.
Lord Dangly Bits
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Some of the Biggiest breeders and cannibus cup winners SELECTIVELY prune back fan leafs AND lowwer Branches from their plants to help air flow and they say that the energy is wasted down low. I have done a side by side test of this and I did find that the plants that were selectively pruned on the bottom 1/3 of the plant were happier. But to go in and RAPE your plant of ALL of the Fan leafs is just crazy. And until I see a side by side full grow of this, I will not even think about believeing. Showing pictures of some plants with no leafs, and then pictures of plants with leafs is not proof in anyway. HELL you could have just taken the plants when they were fully ripe and ready to harvest and clipped all the fan leafs off and then taken a photo.
I try not to point fingers at people, but JapanFreak, You are a very rude and insulting person. You make people want to not believe you just because of your crappy personality. My Wife is from Japan. I have been there many times. And the Laws are very hard on drugs there. You get busted with just a joint and your ass is theirs. With your crappy personality, I would not put it past someone to Nark on you, just to get you out of the neighbor hood. But more then that, I doubt you even live there. I have a feeling you do not even like Weed and that you like to pass out Disinformation. From what I have read in the last few weeks since I came back to this site, is you like to try and screw up new peoples grows. Now sure, some of the things you have told people can help, WHEN DONE CORRECTLY!! But you should never try and teach a beginner an advanced technic. Teach them the correct and basic way first. Kind of like do as I say, not what I do. Usually if someone really knows what they are talking about. They will say what they have to give, and leave it at that. They will not try to FORCE people to believe how great they are. Because this person already knows it. You seem more like you are afraid you really suck at growing, so you have to try and force us to believe your lie. In other words, Chill the hell out. Give your opinion, and then shut up. There and many different technics out there on how to grow weed. What works well for one person, might not work well for another. Once again, I will start ignoreing you again. And I have self control you PUTZ!! I choose not to click the ignore button so I can watch you make an ass of yourself. So Flame on Freak.
I try not to point fingers at people, but JapanFreak, You are a very rude and insulting person. You make people want to not believe you just because of your crappy personality. My Wife is from Japan. I have been there many times. And the Laws are very hard on drugs there. You get busted with just a joint and your ass is theirs. With your crappy personality, I would not put it past someone to Nark on you, just to get you out of the neighbor hood. But more then that, I doubt you even live there. I have a feeling you do not even like Weed and that you like to pass out Disinformation. From what I have read in the last few weeks since I came back to this site, is you like to try and screw up new peoples grows. Now sure, some of the things you have told people can help, WHEN DONE CORRECTLY!! But you should never try and teach a beginner an advanced technic. Teach them the correct and basic way first. Kind of like do as I say, not what I do. Usually if someone really knows what they are talking about. They will say what they have to give, and leave it at that. They will not try to FORCE people to believe how great they are. Because this person already knows it. You seem more like you are afraid you really suck at growing, so you have to try and force us to believe your lie. In other words, Chill the hell out. Give your opinion, and then shut up. There and many different technics out there on how to grow weed. What works well for one person, might not work well for another. Once again, I will start ignoreing you again. And I have self control you PUTZ!! I choose not to click the ignore button so I can watch you make an ass of yourself. So Flame on Freak.
Nullis
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Kay but first of all, who is 'they' anways?
Secondly that isn't what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that plants grow fan leaves for a reason and it seems quite illogical to remove them, especially when you know a few hard facts about plant physiology. You're obviously assuming what 'every-bodies' exact perspective is on this issue.
You can go ahead and remove all of your fan leaves and it may very well not appear to effect your yield at all.* I understand you aren't saying that removing them will necessarily increase yields, but if it does ultimately do nothing then what is the point?
Just so we're clear about what I actually believe: I believe that if you go ripping leaves off at the very least it will result in the plant expending more energy to replace the foliage it lost. It may also cause complications if your plant was just on the verge of developing any deficiencies as leaves store excess nutrient and energy there. Worst case scenario it stresses your plants into displaying hermaphroditic traits, or increases the length of the flowering period. In other words you might yield exactly the same, even if maturation and harvest are delayed.
At the end of the day it is just another pointless waste; a waste of fertilizer, a waste of time, a waste of effort. Which brings me back to why people get the urge to rip those leaves off in the first place: for the BUDS MAN, GOTTA GET THE LIGHT TO THE BUDSS! In which case I reiterate that there are much more logical alternatives including side lighting, or simply repositioning the leaf.
* Despite that the only way you could even begin to be certain of that would be to flower at least two plants which are clones from the same mother; exact same conditions, including position relative to lighting- butcher one, leave the other intact. This is what we call a variable, and there can only be one. Multiple variables (whether you realize there are or not) equals inconclusive results.
Japanfreak
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Wow, you won't even think about believing something you've never tried? Fine with me.
Japanfreak
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Dude you aren't saying, you're repeating.
Japanfreak
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Like you have brought anything but ignorance to the table. Unlike you, I've removed all the leafs on my plants. I already know what happens. You don't.
phyzix
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Japanfreak
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Well see I can afford to get a shitty yield from a plant, I'm not desperate. But I actually got a very good yield from the plant, better than a lot of people can get from a plant with all it's leafs. But as I'Ve said many times, it's easy for me to see who's speaking from experience and who are parrots
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Nullis
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And here we're assuming that I have, in fact, never had any plants defoliated and witnessed thereafter effects. Even so, according to you nothing happens - setting aside that there are alternatives to ripping leaves off to increase the light you perceive as falling on the buds, and setting aside that I never ever said defoliating was going to totally fuck your yield, and setting aside that you've either got one hell of a reading comprehension problem, are a downright troll or perhaps are inflicted with autism and OCD.
NOTHING YOU'VE READ IS TRUE. SCIENCE IS A LIE.
Poor feller must live in a scary, twisted world. I wonder if he's stuck his cock in a light socket because every-bodies told him it isn't a very clever thing to do... but he's just got to find out for himself.
Whatever man, I'll go ahead and use my brain and education to help me grow and draw my own conclusions based on my personal experience; you can go live on totally oblivious to the perspectives of others and assume nobody else actually has any experience. Either way I'll grow my buds the way I want and be satisfied by the outcome and you can do the same and be the hipster cool non-conformist belligerent you so desire to be.
NOTHING YOU'VE READ IS TRUE. SCIENCE IS A LIE.
Poor feller must live in a scary, twisted world. I wonder if he's stuck his cock in a light socket because every-bodies told him it isn't a very clever thing to do... but he's just got to find out for himself.
Whatever man, I'll go ahead and use my brain and education to help me grow and draw my own conclusions based on my personal experience; you can go live on totally oblivious to the perspectives of others and assume nobody else actually has any experience. Either way I'll grow my buds the way I want and be satisfied by the outcome and you can do the same and be the hipster cool non-conformist belligerent you so desire to be.
phyzix
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Japanfreak
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Does it? Yes I experimented and got a great yield, better than most of the e-parrots in this thread, even when they are inflating their yields. Takes a real pussy to use half quotes like you do.It all makes sense now
wannaquickee
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Actually you can cut fan leaves off.. you can still get a good yield...
but from a side by side comparison that i did off DP WW two clones that were the same pheno/same feeding schedule. i received a 12 grams more on the plant that had not trimmed the fan leaves. but instead tied down the plant or tucked the leaves as much as i could.
Japanfreak
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That's awesome. I never said that removing fans would increase yield, only that it's not nearly as detrimental as people think in the worst cases and in some cases very beneficial. From everything I've read about people who do it they are straight up about it not working on all strains. But this thread is an example of what really really sucks on pot boards, people saying don't you dare try something because they were too scared to try themselves.
wannaquickee
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MY first grow was bag seed close to ten years now. i tried to cut all the fan leaves off and its killed all of my plants. who knows maybe it was something else that killed them. but it sure as hell happened. i have pictures of them tooo! on my old ass phone. a sprint phone..i gotta find a charger for it.. 
that would be throw back
that would be throw backJapanfreak
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Not maybe, it was something else.
Lord Dangly Bits
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Don't stop kicking! Still has some life left!
HAHAHAHA. Now that was some of the best input in a while!!!!!!!! I truely laughed hard on that one!!!
Come on people. Lets get back on track, and stop allowing this Troll to side track us into a stupid arguement. I highly doubt if the person who first asked if he should trim fan leafs ment to Ass Rape his plant. He just wanted to know if he should trim some of them. I say that if you are new to growing weed and you are asking that question. Then most definiately, NO!!!!! First learn to keep your plant alive and happy. You do not meet a chick and right off the bat pull out the Bondage Equipment do you? No!!! You work up to it.
As Far as JapanFREAK goes. Just ignore what he has to say. Even if it is good information, he is just trolling for attention.
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