Should I cull this runt?

Hey whatsup guys, back with another question haha.. anyways, I have 3 plants in my 2x4 tent. 2 are the same age, and the runt is about 8 days younger. The problem is, the runt is growing really slow compared to the other two, especially the sidebranching. Also she's super stretchy, with huge node spacing, and the two other plants are starting to need more room, touching the walls of the tent. Does the runt even look worth keeping? Should i put stuff under the pot to level it with the other plants and veg for a little longer to try to get the sidebranching to mature a bit? Or should I get rid of it and just fill up the tent a bit more with the other two then flip to flower? This is my only tent as of right now, so I can't really take it out to veg it in a different area, but at this point it seems like it's just getting in the way of my other plants. What do y'all think I should do?

Some of the best hunting dogs and pot I've had were runts.

Unless you need the space there is no reason not to finish it.

Might end up good smoke, but I'd kill it. You are already crowded. The other two plants are much healthier.

the others are more vigorous, if your wanting to veg them to fill the tent then i would get rid of her, on the other hand she could just be waiting to explode with growth, if your not happy with her then cut her, no reason in putting time into somthing you dont like,

NanoGadget said:

Unless you need the space there is no reason not to finish it.

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Yeah I kinda do need the space. The first picture shows what I'm talking about, the oscillating fans I have in the corners push the pots to one side of the tent, so it makes them real close to the walls. If i could move them in the middle where the runt is, Id be able to pull them away from the wall a bit and center them better. Just don't want to throw something out if it could grow to be my favorite pheno, yet I also want a good yield. Im on the fence here aha

whitebb2727 said:

Some of the best hunting dogs and pot I've had were runts.

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Yeah I've hear that from a few people that's why I'm so reluctant to throw it away.

deno said:

Might end up good smoke, but I'd kill it. You are already crowded. The other two plants are much healthier.

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Yeah it is getting real crowded especially with these huge pots, they can rotate but they don't have room to move from side to side.

ScoobyDoo90 said:

the others are more vigorous, if your wanting to veg them to fill the tent then i would get rid of her, on the other hand she could just be waiting to explode with growth, if your not happy with her then cut her, no reason in putting time into somthing you dont like,

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Yeah I did want to fill the tent to get the most from my light, I just feel real bad trashing her. Maybe I'll try to take clones and try to get a small second tent set up by the time they root, I still have some cfls from my last grow.. but yeah I probably will end up taking her out in a few days to fill the tent better and give the others a bit more space. Thanks for your input guys!!

Look at her leaves. They are all pointing down, indicating she's not quite right. Her two sister's leaves are all horizontal or searching for light, like a healthy plant's. The extra room will allow better growth on the others - bigger, more dense buds I'd expect.

Not enough O2 in the root zone, droopy leaves, let em dry out a bit

zeddd said:

Not enough O2 in the root zone, droopy leaves, let em dry out a bit

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I let it dry out for about 4 days every time, i hand weigh them and i let them get super light, I don't think its overwatering. Not sure what it could be, I did a soil slushy and my ph read 6.5, I feed with a modified lucas formula and my other plants have loved it. Could it be the environment and maybe she's just sensitive? My rh has been around 20-25 and 75-80 degrees w/ led lights.. I know it's supposed to be around 82-85 with leds it's just hard to get it that high

deno said:

Look at her leaves. They are all pointing down, indicating she's not quite right. Her two sister's leaves are all horizontal or searching for light, like a healthy plant's. The extra room will allow better growth on the others - bigger, more dense buds I'd expect.

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I know, she's been real picky. It's rare that she ever points her leaves up, really not sure why as my ph is on point, and don't think I'm overwatering. I really let them all dry out before watering. The leaves also feel dry and crisp and they're starting to get a zinc deficiency look.. I'm considering just culling her and moving on as I don't think I'd even be able to get healthy clones from her.

Seeds? Very easily could be just a pheno difference. My current grow has two strikingly different phenoes. Two plants are lime green with thin leaves, three are dark green with broad leaves. Both look healthy and are growing vigorously. Its hard to believe they came from the same mother.
You could solve your runt's problem, but is it worth it? Better to concentrate on your other plants imho.

deno said:

Seeds? Very easily could be just a pheno difference. My current grow has two strikingly different phenoes. Two plants are lime green with thin leaves, three are dark green with broad leaves. Both look healthy and are growing vigorously. Its hard to believe they came from the same mother.
You could solve your runt's problem, but is it worth it? Better to concentrate on your other plants imho.

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Oh yeah I forgot to say, yes they are grown from seed, but they are all mob x grapestomper regular seeds, the two healthy ones actually grew alot different, one has a bit bigger node spacing, really looking forward to putting them in flower. The runt has always had real small leaves and slow growth, maybe it was a messed up seed? Not sure, but it kinda sucks because I got only got 3 females from my pack

Well, firstly it looks under nutted, notice the new tops growing look a little pale? the leaves are also dropping which could be due to over watering, but looking at your soil it looks fine, so I believe it might be under nutted.
Secondly if you've placed your light in the middle (on top of the middle one directly) then it makes sense for the middle plant to be short, it's basically like a U shape, the ones further from the light stretch a lot more, you just got to control the other 2 by cowering over it and trying to steal light from it, just because it's taller doesn't mean it's better.

rejectinglogic said:

Well, firstly it looks under nutted, notice the new tops growing look a little pale? the leaves are also dropping which could be due to over watering, but looking at your soil it looks fine, so I believe it might be under nutted.
Secondly if you've placed your light in the middle (on top of the middle one directly) then it makes sense for the middle plant to be short, it's basically like a U shape, the ones further from the light stretch a lot more, you just got to control the other 2 by cowering over it and trying to steal light from it, just because it's taller doesn't mean it's better.

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I don't think its under nuted, considering I only transplanted into my final pot about a week ago. Also I started giving it nutes about a week before i transplanted because I saw the light green/yellowing of the tops, and it hasn't seemed to help. it has Also been the exact same schedule as my other 2 plants, just 8 days behind because I popped them at different times. If it is undernuted, i have no idea how my other plants arent.. Maybe it just need a more than them? Lol.. I feed with a modified lucas formula, comes out to around 900-1000ppm, and i feed that every 2 waterings, so 2 waters then a feed.. I do every other watering to make sure I don't have too much salt buildup. Also im 100% sure its not just shorter because it's in the middle, the node spacing is extremely large, and it was on the right Side a couple days before. I rotate them from the sides to the middle in order to get productive growth after lst training then putting them to the sides for a bit more stretchy growth, the plant on the right in the first pic was in the middle a couple days before the runt. And the runt is actually the most stretchy plant of the batch, she just grows extremely slow, really stretchy, and very weak branches. the sidebranching growth in the middle where I exposed it to light has been really slow and weak. The growth you see in the picture is like 2+ weeks after when I lst'd it and exposed the nodes.

Maybe a nute sensitive pheno and she is directly under the lamp. Also very dry humidity will cause the plant to uptake and transpire more especially under the lamp like that and with the thirst for water she takes in too much fertilizer. Causes droopy and yellowing leaves. Then burns.

I would try raising the lamp or even switching positions or both and get the humidity up. The others may follow. Environment is everything.

Also leach the stressed plant with some extra fresh water and next time feed that one half and see how she goes.

Any time I see leaf stress I raise the lamps and give fresh water when dry.

My runt then and now she has ended up being my fave of my 6 plants also some FAT buds

Let it live

xtsho said:

Let it live

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The problem is, id like to fill my tent, but the runt is in the way because my pots can't move, and theyre being pushed to one side of the tent, touching the walls because of it. Id love to let it live i just dont think it would play out well in the end, yield wise.

MichiganMedGrower said:

Maybe a nute sensitive pheno and she is directly under the lamp. Also very dry humidity will cause the plant to uptake and transpire more especially under the lamp like that and with the thirst for water she takes in too much fertilizer. Causes droopy and yellowing leaves. Then burns.

I would try raising the lamp or even switching positions or both and get the humidity up. The others may follow. Environment is everything.

Also leach the stressed plant with some extra fresh water and next time feed that one half and see how she goes.

Any time I see leaf stress I raise the lamps and give fresh water when dry.

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Yeah, I've said this already though, she's not always in the middle, Shes only been in the middle for a couple days now. I put them in the middle to get productive growth and new sidebranching then put them to the side for a stretcher growth, to make the internodes come up, it has worked great on the other two, the middle one is just a slow grower.. It could be due to humitidy judging from how low mine always is. I water with 1.5 gallons twice before each feeding, making sure I wash put most of the built up salts. The light fixture is 22 inches away from the bigger plants and 25 way from the small on3, and she's already super strechy. Raising the light would promote more stretchy growth, especially when my light is rated from the 18-24 inches.