Should I Apply?.

Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Hey Everyone!
It's been so long since I actually posted a thread here, the format has changed; for the better.
I figure a bunch of stoners like myself is a good place to ask.
Back in 2008, I only worked 2 jobs for a total of 5 months; had to quit the second job to have knee surgery.
So I wound up owing IRS about $500, never paid them; they stopped sending bills 2 years ago.
The interest tacked on is about the same as that stimulus check, and I'm not required to file tax returns.
I've been pondering this all weekend, as there's this IRS link I can apply on.
The worst that could happen is, they keep the stimulus check in lieu of old debt.
The best that could happen is, they simply send me a check.
So I should apply, yes?.
Hope everyone is staying healthy, and entertained!
Biz
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Sunbiz1 said:
Hey Everyone!
It's been so long since I actually posted a thread here, the format has changed; for the better.
I figure a bunch of stoners like myself is a good place to ask.
Back in 2008, I only worked 2 jobs for a total of 5 months; had to quit the second job to have knee surgery.
So I wound up owing IRS about $500, never paid them; they stopped sending bills 2 years ago.
The interest tacked on is about the same as that stimulus check, and I'm not required to file tax returns.
I've been pondering this all weekend, as there's this IRS link I can apply on.
The worst that could happen is, they keep the stimulus check in lieu of old debt.
The best that could happen is, they simply send me a check.
So I should apply, yes?.
Hope everyone is staying healthy, and entertained!
Biz
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The worst that can happen is that they assess an arbitrarily stiff penalty for you stiffing them. A bored IRS is a dangerous IRS.
 
booms111

booms111

Well-Known Member
Sunbiz1 said:
Hey Everyone!
It's been so long since I actually posted a thread here, the format has changed; for the better.
I figure a bunch of stoners like myself is a good place to ask.
Back in 2008, I only worked 2 jobs for a total of 5 months; had to quit the second job to have knee surgery.
So I wound up owing IRS about $500, never paid them; they stopped sending bills 2 years ago.
The interest tacked on is about the same as that stimulus check, and I'm not required to file tax returns.
I've been pondering this all weekend, as there's this IRS link I can apply on.
The worst that could happen is, they keep the stimulus check in lieu of old debt.
The best that could happen is, they simply send me a check.
So I should apply, yes?.
Hope everyone is staying healthy, and entertained!
Biz
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I worked for a guy building custom homes in 2001-03. I quit one day for another framing job. The guy paid me under the table but when I quit he called my insurance agent and got my SS# and I got a $2800 tax bill. I said fuck them I'm not paying shit. Time went on then eventually the IRS locked my bank account and said I owed them $5200. I'd reccomend paying those asshole asap because they never stop tacking on more and more to the bill until they final say enough is enough and lock your accounts and threaten to send your ass to jail.

I did see this dickhead again that did this to me at a funeral. Came up to me and try to shake my hand. I slapped his hand and told get the fuck away from me or your funerals next. Never seen him again.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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cannabineer said:
The worst that can happen is that they assess an arbitrarily stiff penalty for you stiffing them. A bored IRS is a dangerous IRS.
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They already did, to the tune of 150% interest.
What I'd prefer to do is simply tell them to shove that stimulus check up their collective... :mrgreen:
Actually, last bill I got was around $1,200; so settling for that would be better than simply ignoring the opportunity to pay it off w/interest.
I think they'll agree to that, considering right now they're busy as hell.
It seems like a better option, use stimulus check to settle bill.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Sunbiz1 said:
They already did, to the tune of 150% interest.
What I'd prefer to do is simply tell them to shove that stimulus check up their collective... :mrgreen:
Actually, last bill I got was around $1,200; so settling for that would be better than simply ignoring the opportunity to pay it off w/interest.
I think they'll agree to that, considering right now they're busy as hell.
It seems like a better option, considering they'd be paying themselves.
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You expect logic from a Federal agency.
I salute you as your belief in the system rather exceeds mine.
 
TreeFarmerCharlie

TreeFarmerCharlie

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Sunbiz1 said:
They already did, to the tune of 150% interest.
What I'd prefer to do is simply tell them to shove that stimulus check up their collective... :mrgreen:
Actually, last bill I got was around $1,200; so settling for that would be better than simply ignoring the opportunity to pay it off w/interest.
I think they'll agree to that, considering right now they're busy as hell.
It seems like a better option, considering they'd be paying themselves.
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You know they don't just stop adding interest, right? When someone owes on taxes, those over due taxes get interest added to them on a daily basis. You can't win against the IRS. They will let that interest build, and build, and build, and then will come after everything you have to pay them back.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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booms111 said:
I worked for a guy building custom homes in 2001-03. I quit one day for another framing job. The guy paid me under the table but when I quit he called my insurance agent and got my SS# and I got a $2800 tax bill. I said fuck them I'm not paying shit. Time went on then eventually the IRS locked my bank account and said I owed them $5200. I'd reccomend paying those asshole asap because they never stop tacking on more and more to the bill until they final say enough is enough and lock your accounts and threaten to send your ass to jail.

I did see this dickhead again that did this to me at a funeral. Came up to me and try to shake my hand. I slapped his hand and told get the fuck away from me or your funerals next. Never seen him again.
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I've read as many of the the laws on this as I could find, 10 years is somewhat of a collection statute of limitations.
But there's a few catches, any contact on your part or theirs starts the clock over.
This could be one reason they stopped sending me bills after a decade of ignoring.
Which would mean 8 more years for me probably, lol.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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TreeFarmerCharlie said:
You know they don't just stop adding interest, right? When someone owes on taxes, those over due taxes get interest added to them on a daily basis. You can't win against the IRS. They will let that interest build, and build, and build, and then will come after everything you have to pay them back.
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No big deal, then I'll get the stimulus check; and pay them that plus 2 years interest on a small principal.
If the bitches want the extra $200, I'll wheel a hand truck into the nearest office with rolls of pennies.
 
BarnBuster

BarnBuster

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Does this apply to you, and have you thought about an "Offer In Compromise"? Do you plan on collecting Social Security? They can assess that too.

25.6.1.9.5.2 (10-01-2010)
Fraudulent Return
There is no period of limitations on assessment for a false or fraudulent return with intent to evade tax.

Edit: I saw this just now on the Ohio AG site, so...

"COVID-19 stimulus checks are protected under existing Ohio law from bill collectors and exempt from state and federal attachment, garnishment or execution".
 
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booms111

booms111

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Sunbiz1 said:
I've read as many of the the laws on this as I could find, 10 years is somewhat of a collection statute of limitations.
But there's a few catches, any contact on your part or theirs starts the clock over.
This could be one reason they stopped sending me bills after a decade of ignoring.
Which would mean 8 more years for me probably, lol.
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My first response to them was I never received anything in the mail but they knew I was lying. So then they started sending more letters each time being a little bit more money. I eventually had to do a payment plan of like $400 a month to get them off my ass.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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BarnBuster said:
Does this apply to you, and have you thought about an "Offer In Compromise"? Do you plan on collecting Social Security? They can assess that too.

25.6.1.9.5.2 (10-01-2010)
Fraudulent Return
There is no period of limitations on assessment for a false or fraudulent return with intent to evade tax.

Edit: I saw this just now on the Ohio AG site, so...

"COVID-19 stimulus checks are protected under existing Ohio law from bill collectors and exempt from state and federal attachment, garnishment or execution".
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Nope, didn't cheat on taxes; ever.
I simply claimed too many exemptions in 08', then didn't bother filing.
10 years is the statute of limitations, unless the IRS files a mirror return; which they often do on large amounts owed.
Then they mail you that, plus another bill.:mrgreen:
I'm filing it this week, just needed to think through all the possibilities before becoming less off-grid.
:)
 
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