Shootings this past week

Wife, Teen, Himself… Man Shoots, Kills Own Son… Cops Shoot Teen Dead…Man Gunned Down In Parking Lot… 5 Dead In Spate Of Shootings… 2 Murdered In Philly… 2 Kansas Cops Shot Dead… Shooter Killed… 4 Die In Apparent Murder-Suicide… Ga. Cop Dies From Gunshot… Argument Leads Teen To Shoot Friend… Man Shot To Death… Teen Dies After Being Tied Up, Shot… Man Shot Dead In Street… Drug Deal Leads To Shooting Death… Mother Of 2 Killed In Road Rage Shooting… Man Shoots, Kills Intruder… 1 Killed In Coney Island…Man Dies From Gunshot Wounds… Cops Investigate Gun Death… Shooting Victim’s Body Found On Bike Trail… Man Charged With Shooting Own Brother Dead… Man Dies After Being Shot In Chest… Body Of Shooting Victim Found In Pickup… Teen Arrested For Robbery Shooting Death… Man Carrying 2-Year-Old Son Shot Dead… Man Fatally Shot Near Home… Parolee Dies In Shooting… 1 Killed In Buffalo Shooting… Man Shot Dead In Apartment Complex… Street Gun Battle Kills Grandma Bystander… Man, Woman Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide… Woman Shot Dead By Intruder… 14-Year-Old Arrested Over Fatal Gun Attack… Man Found Shot Dead In Parking Lot… Woman Shot In Face By Ex-Boyfriend… 1 Woman, 3 Men Shot Dead… 2 Die In Attempted Robbery… Army Reservist Shot To Death In Alley… Man Shot To Death In Bodega… 2 Shot Dead In Burned House… Man Shot During Break-In… Man Fatally Shot… 20-Year-Old Gunned Down… Man Shoots Self During Police Pursuit… 1 Killed In Baltimore Shooting… Cops ID Shooting Victim… 60-Year-Old Man Shot Dead… Shot Man’s Body Found In Vacant House…. Woman Shot And Killed Outside Her Home…Shooting Victim Was ‘Trying To Turn Life Around’… Slain Shooting Victim Found In Street…. Driving Altercation Leads To Shooting, 1 Dies… 3-Year-Old Dies In Accidental Shooting… Man Turns Self In After Allegedly Shooting Wife… Man Shot Dead Outside Home… 3 Slain In Separate New Orleans Shootings… Cops Investigate Shooting Death… Man Shot Dead In Ohio… Teen Shot To Death… Man Dies After Being Shot Multiple Times… Man Charged Over Son’s Shooting Death… Cops Find 2 Men Shot Dead… 1 Dies In Shooting… Man Charged Over Gun Killing… 1 Shot Dead In Confrontation… Man Charged With Murder Over Shooting… Motel-Owner Shot And Killed… Husband Shoots Estranged Wife Dead… Suspect Arrested Over Deputy’s Shooting Death… Police Probe Fatal Shooting… Cops Kill 2 Suspects In 3 Shooting Deaths… Man Killed Fighting Back Against Robber… Man Killed In Home Invasion…. Nightclub Shooting Kills 1… Child Brain Dead After Drive By Shooting… Man Charged Over Shooting Of Ex-Wife… Body Found In Vacant House… Teen Fatally Shot…

Can you list all the accidental poisonings? I bet its 10 times as long.

Ban Windex!!!

NoDrama said:

Can you list all the accidental poisonings? I bet its 10 times as long.

Ban Windex!!!

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Since these were mostly intentional shootings maybe you should put up a list of intentional poisonings.

BadDog40 said:

Since these were mostly intentional shootings maybe you should put up a list of intentional poisonings.

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I guarantee that every little kid who thinks Windex is a yummy blueberry flavored beverage drank said Windex intentionally.

NoDrama said:

I guarantee that every little kid who thinks Windex is a yummy blueberry flavored beverage drank said Windex intentionally.

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That would fall into the category of self inflicted, which as I'm sure you already know is not included in the above list. Keep trying.

BadDog, your naked list conceals something that is very distasteful to me: the utterly false idea that pro-gun folks value the lives of the slain less than the antis do. It's good propaganda however, since even though the ratio of deaths or injuries prevented by gun owners very probably is a multiple of the deaths you've listed ... there's no way to prove it.

But that does not excuse you from insulting the morality of gun owners. cn

BadDog40 said:

That would fall into the category of self inflicted, which as I'm sure you already know is not included in the above list. Keep trying.

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Suicides are reflected in your own list, as are accidental shootings, shootings in self defense and other assorted deaths by gun. You think those are all just intentional murders?

cannabineer said:

BadDog, your naked list conceals something that is very distasteful to me: the utterly false idea that pro-gun folks value the lives of the slain less than the antis do. It's good propaganda however, since even though the ratio of deaths or injuries prevented by gun owners very probably is a multiple of the deaths you've listed ... there's no way to prove it.

But that does not excuse you from insulting the morality of gun owners. cn

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I am merely introducing facts, sorry if that somehow correlates to me insulting your morality. I realize it is much easier to stick ones head in the sand when one is on the wrong side of an issue that causes death to so many, maybe you would feel better with no media?

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Suicides are reflected in your own list, as are accidental shootings, shootings in self defense and other assorted deaths by gun. You think those are all just intentional murders?

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No Francis, the list is about shootings, not murders.

cannabineer said:

BadDog, your naked list conceals something that is very distasteful to me: the utterly false idea that pro-gun folks value the lives of the slain less than the antis do. It's good propaganda however, since even though the ratio of deaths or injuries prevented by gun owners very probably is a multiple of the deaths you've listed ... there's no way to prove it.

But that does not excuse you from insulting the morality of gun owners. cn

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It appears you would like a forum that no one posts anything except you and your right wing buddies otherwise you're offended.

BadDog40 said:

No Francis, the list is about shootings, not murders.

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So suicides are NOT self inflicted, got it.

BadDog40 said:

Wife, Teen, Himself… Man Shoots, Kills Own Son… Cops Shoot Teen Dead…Man Gunned Down In Parking Lot… 5 Dead In Spate Of Shootings… 2 Murdered In Philly… 2 Kansas Cops Shot Dead… Shooter Killed… 4 Die In Apparent Murder-Suicide… Ga. Cop Dies From Gunshot… Argument Leads Teen To Shoot Friend… Man Shot To Death… Teen Dies After Being Tied Up, Shot… Man Shot Dead In Street… Drug Deal Leads To Shooting Death… Mother Of 2 Killed In Road Rage Shooting… Man Shoots, Kills Intruder… 1 Killed In Coney Island…Man Dies From Gunshot Wounds… Cops Investigate Gun Death… Shooting Victim’s Body Found On Bike Trail… Man Charged With Shooting Own Brother Dead… Man Dies After Being Shot In Chest… Body Of Shooting Victim Found In Pickup… Teen Arrested For Robbery Shooting Death… Man Carrying 2-Year-Old Son Shot Dead… Man Fatally Shot Near Home… Parolee Dies In Shooting… 1 Killed In Buffalo Shooting… Man Shot Dead In Apartment Complex… Street Gun Battle Kills Grandma Bystander… Man, Woman Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide… Woman Shot Dead By Intruder… 14-Year-Old Arrested Over Fatal Gun Attack… Man Found Shot Dead In Parking Lot… Woman Shot In Face By Ex-Boyfriend… 1 Woman, 3 Men Shot Dead… 2 Die In Attempted Robbery… Army Reservist Shot To Death In Alley… Man Shot To Death In Bodega… 2 Shot Dead In Burned House… Man Shot During Break-In… Man Fatally Shot… 20-Year-Old Gunned Down… Man Shoots Self During Police Pursuit… 1 Killed In Baltimore Shooting… Cops ID Shooting Victim… 60-Year-Old Man Shot Dead… Shot Man’s Body Found In Vacant House…. Woman Shot And Killed Outside Her Home…Shooting Victim Was ‘Trying To Turn Life Around’… Slain Shooting Victim Found In Street…. Driving Altercation Leads To Shooting, 1 Dies… 3-Year-Old Dies In Accidental Shooting… Man Turns Self In After Allegedly Shooting Wife… Man Shot Dead Outside Home… 3 Slain In Separate New Orleans Shootings… Cops Investigate Shooting Death… Man Shot Dead In Ohio… Teen Shot To Death… Man Dies After Being Shot Multiple Times… Man Charged Over Son’s Shooting Death… Cops Find 2 Men Shot Dead… 1 Dies In Shooting… Man Charged Over Gun Killing… 1 Shot Dead In Confrontation… Man Charged With Murder Over Shooting… Motel-Owner Shot And Killed… Husband Shoots Estranged Wife Dead… Suspect Arrested Over Deputy’s Shooting Death… Police Probe Fatal Shooting… Cops Kill 2 Suspects In 3 Shooting Deaths… Man Killed Fighting Back Against Robber… Man Killed In Home Invasion…. Nightclub Shooting Kills 1… Child Brain Dead After Drive By Shooting… Man Charged Over Shooting Of Ex-Wife… Body Found In Vacant House… Teen Fatally Shot…

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im still waiting for you to explain how high on the social ladder one must climb before one gains the privilege of self defense against an attacker.

since it is already established you do not believe "Mc Donalds fry makers" have the privilege opf defending themselves,, i can only assume that the unemployed, those who are homeless and those who are illegal aliens of course do NOT have the privilege, but what about college students? it could be argued that they are bettering themselves with an eye towards future prosperity so does that count?

how about people who are currently working but under-employed?
people who's professional licenses have been suspended, or people who are awaiting investiture in their unions?
i really want to know how successful i have to be to earn the privilege of defending myself.

BadDog40 said:

I am merely introducing facts, sorry if that somehow correlates to me insulting your morality. I realize it is much easier to stick ones head in the sand when one is on the wrong side of an issue that causes death to so many, maybe you would feel better with no media?

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Emphatically no. You are not "merely introducing facts". You are presenting only one side without annotation, allowing you to blandly present the fiction of "merely introducing facts". You are concealing powerful judgment in that apparent "mere introduction".

You confirmed it by calling those who believe in their right to armed defense the Wrong Side. There is your moral judgment made plain, and I reject it. cn

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Emphatically no. You are not "merely introducing facts". You are presenting only one side without annotation, allowing you to blandly present the fiction of "merely introducing facts". You are concealing powerful judgment in that apparent "mere introduction".

You confirmed it by calling those who believe in their right to armed defense the Wrong Side. There is your moral judgment made plain, and I reject it. cn

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The fact is thousands of innocent people slaughtered each year by your hobby, call it moral judgement if need be. Sorry my characterization offends your tender sensibilities, but fair is fair.

BadDog40 said:

The fact is thousands of innocent people slaughtered each year by your hobby, call it moral judgement if need be. Sorry my characterization offends your tender sensibilities, but fair is fair.

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Oooo. Self-defense is a hobby now. cn

cannabineer said:

Oooo. Self-defense is a hobby now. cn

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Apparently.

BadDog40 said:

The fact is thousands of innocent people slaughtered each year by your hobby, call it moral judgement if need be. Sorry my characterization offends your tender sensibilities, but fair is fair.

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where's the list of drunk driving deaths?

drinking is pretty much a hobby as well. most people are well aware of the dangers of drunk driving yet continue to do it. why haven't we outlawed alcohol? oh, wait a minute ...

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The fact is thousands of innocent people slaughtered each year by your hobby, call it moral judgement if need be. Sorry my characterization offends your tender sensibilities, but fair is fair.

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The fact is that THOUSANDS of innocent civilians are being murdered in cold blood by your dear leader, and the lefties MORONIC opinion (opinion, not fact), that law-abiding, mentally stable individuals who carry guns, are the ones to be feared.

I guess because those civilians who are getting droned aren't part of our immediate society, it is okay. Fair is fair.

hypocrites

news headlines and statistics are not the same thing. i will introduce some statistics here that paint a different picture. this is from the CDC. these are the cause of death stats in the US for the year 2010 for all races and both sexes. you can create this table for yourself with working links by using this link: http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10_us.html
just scroll to the bottom where it says advanced search and hit submit.

edit: turns out the table works. keep the link anyway.






from this table, we can see that people aged 10-44 are more likely to die from suicide than homicide with the (almost nonexistent) exception of the age range of 15-24. if you click on any of the colored boxes, you will get a graph that further breaks this down. not surprisingly, yes, most homicides and suicides are gun related.

what's interesting to me is that according to this table, roughly HALF of "gun deaths" are self inflicted. furthermore, using the age range of 25-34, yes, you can see that there were 3,331 gun homicides and 2,594 gun suicides. for that same age group there were a whopping 6,767 accidental poisoning deaths. this means that more people in that age group were poisoned to death than murdered by gun and committed suicide by gun COMBINED.

the end.

I wonder if he had lived in the garage instead of the basment - and if thats where she kept her liquor and her suv and he had hit a school bus head on while intoxicated and had killed as many kids (if not more) if it would be recieving as much media attention?