Shock, Age or Hermie?

JesusChrysler

New Member
Greetings and Salutations.
I'm very positive i grew a decent female....it produced lots of buds with long beautiful hairs, and it got all stinky and sticky....with a very nice high. And now towards the end it's producing seeds lol.
And i'm very high....so this has me seriously confused.

Some details....I'm not a very serious grower atm, just 'off the cuff' kinda thing. My goal is to get it working first, and then perfect it. Just a couple plants for myself.
Indoor sodium / soil.

Not my first grow, but my first with this mystery strain from seed.

I noticed during budding that the plant had a plethora of buds, but seemed to stop growing in size, not getting past maybe 2 inches at the most. Popcorn buds everywhere. I gave it some nitrogen and a dose of miracle grow...it helped a bit, the plant looked a little more vibrant a few days later....but no change in bud size. I waited about 2 weeks...still no change.

Also because i only have light on top (i'm guessing) the top buds seemed to be ready, while ones below were not. So i starting trimming top buds off the top. Not too many, maybe 3 or 4, trying not to stress the plant. Then i'd give it 3-4 days and do it again. (and probably stressing the plant :/)

Also i think the plant is kinda old. I say i think, because i have no idea lol.
I'll be making notes starting now.
If i had to guess, i'd say beyond 18 weeks when i noticed seeds. Maybe more like 20. (total)
To me that's long for an indoor, maybe 3 foot high.

So i noticed pods growing on the lower buds. I didn't think much of it because i knew it wasn't a male.
I'd say the bottom 1/3 of the plant had bud with seeds.

So the question is how did i get seeds....and more importantly.....are my vegetative clones that are about 50 feet away safe? They are seperated from light, but probably not air.
If it somehow became hermie....do i have to worry about pollen? I want to put a couple clones in that flowering room now....and i'm nervous. (room is empty)

And i say became hermie, because i think i would have noticed it was a hermie as the buds matured.
It was about 2-3 weeks after i started clipping top buds that i noticed seed pods.....so i'm guessing maybe i shocked it into a hermaphrodite stage when i started clipping.

Or is that just how hermies are? Then i have to wonder if the clones i made from it are also hermies?
If they are i'm still going forward lol. I'll just cut the time shorter to harvest and take the whole thing and not clip. I'll deal with popcorn buds, it's that good.

Also even though this was indoor, it's not heated much and this was from December to now, i'm not sure if that would have anything to do with it. I don't think it got colder than 60f.
Light 12/12.

Like i said...I'm confused.
Thanks in advance for any input / advice. And thanks for reading my very first of many long rambling posts lol.
J.C.


P.S. I call everything i grow Toledo Window Box in honor of George Carlin.
 

Tim1987

Well-Known Member
IMHO
This will probably open a can of worms.
But imho
Hermies are a genetic, phenotypic trait. The phenotype is the phenotype. Its genes are all it has. The seed is the seed, at conception.
It's my belief, that if you hermie, you had hermies all along.
Great quality seeds = no hermies, or very, very few.
It makes sense for a hermaphrodite plant to flower first, before it pollenates itself. So it can set its seed, before it dies. Its how almost all other flowering plants do things.
The problem with hermies, is they can be hard to notice. Some are full on hermies, and have whole male, and female branches. Some show balls a little later on ( like yours ). Some dont show balls at all, and just show stamen aka "bananas".
I've always asked myself, "why don't / havn't my male plants EVER turned hermie"???
Saying a plant can choose what sex it is, almost implies it has a brain, and can think for itself.
You can make a female hermie, by physical manipulation, such as using colloidal silver. But imho, you may as well be giving your plant cancer. It completely messes with its genes, and chromosomes. Imho you physically change the genes for future generations.

I havn't had a hermie in years, since my current seeds. Its been a lot of plants too.

About your pollen also. Yes it is a worry.
Pollen can travel for hundreds of kilometres. It only takes one speck to fertilize, and create a seed. Ive heard water will stop the pollen. But once it dries im not so sure.

Your heating is important as well. Below 18'C, and the plants really begin to suffer.
I like to keep my ambients at around 26'C, during the day. Nightime, around 21.
If i get below 20'C, growth slows right down.

Happy growing.
 
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