Seeds in my plants, 6 weeks into flower today.

Smithy1

Smithy1

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coreywebster said:
Smithy, see em through to the end, hopefully seeding is minimal and you can pick em out, worst case get some bubble bags and make some nice hash.
Clean everything and move on to the next crop.
Just keep an eye on them, it may be they are more pollinated than you think and could spend all their time on producing seeds so may not swell and finish as expected, but they may just carry on and finish and you suffer less of a loss.

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Cheers for the advice buddy, Im checking them everyday for seeds i noticed another 2 today so im just picking them out and hoping for the best, That damm hermie plant that has caused this!!

They are mainly on the popcorn buds and not on the big colas growing up top.
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xtsho

xtsho

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Smithy1 said:
Shall i leave them or them or toss them,
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Why would you toss them? Finish them out or waste all the time you've spent growing them so far. What's done is done. Harvest when ready. Pick a few seeds out and get on with your next grow.



thenotsoesoteric said:
Meanwhile while youre picking seeds out your shitty bud, Ill be smoking nonseeded weed.
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Just because weed has seeds doesn't make the smoke shitty.
 
Smithy1

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Thundercat said:
I'd finish them out. The seeds aren't anything I would run first but could be saved as a backup. I've got some seeds from a Sin Mint Cookies plant I grew about 5 years ago that selfed a hand full of seeds. If I even need seeds or have room to run them I will. In the meantime, they are hanging out :).

The thing with hermies is most plants don't just do it themselves. There is usually some sort of stress trigger. I've seen it happen on the 2nd and 3rd generation of clones from the same mother plant. One clone maybe will get stressed somehow and throw a few nanners part way through flower. Usually, I just pic them off and move on with no issues.

I've also grown plants that fully showed both male and female sex parts and had to be cut so they didn't pollinate my whole garden.

One of the first grows I did was just a little closet grow, and I got males and females from some bag seed. I intentionally let them all go through their life cycles so I could FULLY observe how this plant grows from start to finish in a natural(ish) way. I think it taught my a lot about understanding the cannabis plant.

I also run hydro and don't believe in flushing ;).
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So when i cut my plants down in 2 weeks and theres seeds some seeds in them which without a doubt they will, Will they be female seeds?
 
FrostyTheDruid

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Hilarious the dudes that spread shit like “90% of elites come from bag seed” and “flushing is voodoo” are considered the authorities here at RIU now. What a fucking joke this place has become...
 
Thundercat

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Smithy1 said:
So when i cut my plants down in 2 weeks and theres seeds some seeds in them which without a doubt they will, Will they be female seeds?
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I believe as long as the pollen came from that same plant they will be female seeds.

Frosty isn't wrong though about the genetic chance of a hermie being increased. It's not a guarantee that you will get a hermie from the seeds you pop, but the chance would be there.

I also want to point out the same thing a few others did. You should add 7-10 days to your flowering time. The transition period is often ignored and called flowering time. Then when the plants get to 7,8,9 weeks and aren't done new growers don't understand why.

Letting these plants fully mature is also important if you want the seeds to be viable at all. If you cut them early more of the seeds will be immature, and the bud will be immature.

Then you will think that seeds make the bud weaker. But really you just harvested them early. many long time growers believe that seeded buds can actually be more potant. The plant produces resin to protect the seeds.

I don't know if they are stronger, but based on my experiances I don't think they are much if any weaker.

I still don't do a harvest flush though. Once I learned how to dry properly I never saw any benefit. I also don't slam my plants with nutes trying to make them grow more. I like to just give them what they need.
 
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Kingrow1

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Smithy1 said:
Kingrow1, you seem a experienced grower and ive read some off your threads, (Im not saying any off you people who commented on this thread are not) Yous have give me some good advice.

Shall i leave them or them or toss them, Im only finding a few at the moment but i feel as the weeks pass ill find a lot more and its only on the lower buds to not the huge main colas (touchwood) Its all stemmed from this banners plant i had i was just plucking em off daily but then i actually grabbed a bud opened it with my hands and their was a fairly few off these nanners growing inside the buds that i coudnt see with the open eye,

I thurally check my other plants every day for nanners and their is none at at all (touchwood) again lol

I cant wait until this grow is finished and i can have a good clean, I have already bought the seeds off Sensi Seeds this time i bought 10 white widows nealry a £100 i heard they are up there with genetics, Plus im planning on having 6 in a 1x2 1x2 2m tent when ive done this grow, 3 rows off 2

11 Litre square pots, What do you think?

Anyone else can chime in on this one to i need all the advice i can get.

Thanks folks, Smith.
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I think your doing really well and already doing what you think is your best option.

Complete all plants and suck up the dissapointment, one grow in many :-)
 
NanoGadget

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I have a strong aversion to genetics that throw nanners on a healthy plant. I've had nanners with very stable genetics, but that has pretty much always been grower error related stress triggers.

I have no problem at all using seeds that result from stress induced nanners. There is no evidence of epigentic problems with a line derived from this kind of selfing.

A strain that throws nanners on a healthy plant though? I isolate it until it finished or kill it with fire.
 
thenotsoesoteric

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FrostyTheDruid said:
Hilarious the dudes that spread shit like “90% of elites come from bag seed” and “flushing is voodoo” are considered the authorities here at RIU now. What a fucking joke this place has become...
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Well start posting some flame pics master grower. We're all waiting for your professional know how.
 
whitebb2727

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FrostyTheDruid said:
The seeds that were produced will most likely have the hermaphroditic trait that pollenated your room in the first place. I’d toss them, but if a pollenated room doesn’t bother you...
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Not true.


Keep them and grow them. There might be herms but not as many as you would think. If the environment is dialed in then shouldn't see many.

I say cut back on all those nutes. Keep it simple and less is more.
 
Smithy1

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NanoGadget said:
I have a strong aversion to genetics that throw nanners on a healthy plant. I've had nanners with very stable genetics, but that has pretty much always been grower error related stress triggers.

I have no problem at all using seeds that result from stress induced nanners. There is no evidence of epigentic problems with a line derived from this kind of selfing.

A strain that throws nanners on a healthy plant though? I isolate it until it finished or kill it with fire.
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Thanks for your reply buddy, So when i pull the plamns down and pick the seeds out shall i keep them and grow witht them or will they just turn hermi? Doesnt matter anyway i have 10 White Widow seeds from Sensi Seed ibe heard there genetics are tip top and was suprised to see they have my favourite strain (White Widow) First time i smoked it i picked a fight with the floor lol

I just cant belive that one plant it was a lovely plant to with around 10 main colas id topped it a few times,

I cant wait for my next grow ive bought the seeds, soil, plus im going to give my tent a very good clean and check for any light leaks again.
 
whitebb2727

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Smithy1 said:
Thanks for your reply buddy, So when i pull the plamns down and pick the seeds out shall i keep them and grow witht them or will they just turn hermi? Doesnt matter anyway i have 10 White Widow seeds from Sensi Seed ibe heard there genetics are tip top and was suprised to see they have my favourite strain (White Widow) First time i smoked it i picked a fight with the floor lol

I just cant belive that one plant it was a lovely plant to with around 10 main colas id topped it a few times,

I cant wait for my next grow ive bought the seeds, soil, plus im going to give my tent a very good clean and check for any light leaks again.
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Keep them.

Before the days of internet I grew a lot of herm bag seed.

There is a difference in late flower pollen and full on herms.
 
Smithy1

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whitebb2727 said:
Keep them.

Before the days of internet I grew a lot of herm bag seed.

There is a difference in late flower pollen and full on herms.
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Hmmm i would off grew one on my next grow but i dont want the seed/plant to herm on me again then im back to square one,

I got told that when a plant gets stressed and starts herming and producing seeds they will be female or is this a myth? But i have chopped the hermed plant and im finding a few seeds on my other 3 plants, I plucked and found a few earlier with tweezers,

Will these seeds will be feminized? The ones from the other plants not the herm i chopped at 5 weeks. There was no seeds on the herm i chopped just loads off bananas outside and inside the bud.
 
whitebb2727

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Smithy1 said:
Hmmm i would off grew one on my next grow but i dont want the seed/plant to herm on me again then im back to square one,

I got told that when a plant gets stressed and starts herming and producing seeds they will be female or is this a myth? But i have chopped the hermed plant and im finding a few seeds on my other 3 plants, I plucked and found a few earlier with tweezers,

Will these seeds will be feminized? The ones from the other plants not the herm i chopped at 5 weeks. There was no seeds on the herm i chopped just loads off bananas outside and inside the bud.
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They will be fem seed.

A number of population strains came from a herm plant or have herm tendencies.

I'm almost positive it's due to stress and not genetics in this case.

You a new to growing and using a full line of nutrients.

Try a good all in one nute or a good two part. Don't worry about bloom boosters, additives and cannabis specific stuff. Most of it is snake oil.

Keep it simple and less is more. Start at a 1/4 to 1/2 what the bottle says. Most nutrient companies will have you over feed.

Try one your next grow and see how it goes. More importantly check to see if it's your grow method , like over feedimg or environment, like light leaks to see if that's what caused it.

Like I said earlier there is a difference in a full on herm that shows both sexes from the start of flower and late flower nanners.
 
Smithy1

Smithy1

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whitebb2727 said:
They will be fem seed.

A number of population strains came from a herm plant or have herm tendencies.

I'm almost positive it's due to stress and not genetics in this case.



You a new to growing and using a full line of nutrients.

Try a good all in one nute or a good two part. Don't worry about bloom boosters, additives and cannabis specific stuff. Most of it is snake oil.

Keep it simple and less is more. Start at a 1/4 to 1/2 what the bottle says. Most nutrient companies will have you over feed.

Try one your next grow and see how it goes. More importantly check to see if it's your grow method , like over feedimg or environment, like light leaks to see if that's what caused it.

Like I said earlier there is a difference in a full on herm that shows both sexes from the start of flower and late flower nanners.
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Top stuff, Cheers for that advice buddy i used the Canna full range off nute becasue my 50 odd year ols cousin swears by them he says they are the best around to use specially the canna boost, I payed £50 for one Litre off the stuff, Its expensive. All the others canna additives wernt to bad to shell out for.

Im currently following the "Light Sheduale " on Cannas website for growing in coco and so far ive had no nute issies (touchwwod)

I feed 1L off feed a day, I mix them all into a 10L bucket or sometimes my 20L if i can be bothered lol

Im just over rhe moon ill have some Fem Seeds, just my luck as soon as i payed nearly £100 for 10 white wisow off sensi seeds.
 
Keeprollinup

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I grew seeds from my hermys and all of them turned hermy about 4 weeks into flower just my experience. Good luck.
 
NanoGadget

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Keeprollinup said:
I grew seeds from my hermys and all of them turned hermy about 4 weeks into flower just my experience. Good luck.
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Again, it depends on why the plant hermied. If it was in perfect health and started chucking nanners then you are probably dealing with crap genetics. If it hermied because of stress factors (over feeding, under feeding, extreme temps or humidity, over watering etc etc) then more than likely the seeds it produces will be no more likely to self pollinate than any other.
 
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