Seeds from female plants

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by Thebuddness, Sep 20, 2011.

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    Thebuddness

    Thebuddness Member

    It looks like I'm being gifted with a few seeds from my plants grown from feminized seeds. Will these seeds also be female? Will they be prone to be hermi's?
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    vilify

    vilify Well-Known Member

    They should in fact be female. No more prone than feminized are to begin with.
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    Skunk.n'the.Trunk

    Skunk.n'the.Trunk Active Member

    May tend to be herm as well but if there were no males in the grow area or even nearby (pollen can travel a 1/4 mile) then yes they will be all fem seeds
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    Thebuddness

    Thebuddness Member

    Cool guys thanks! I have 2 outdoors, interesting if they snagged some random pollen. Freebies, gotta love that!
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    561crim

    561crim Active Member

    how are they even producing seeds at all?...i got a couple hundred seeds off of about 20 plants...all plants were grown from fem seeds, indoors, no male plants or pollen to contaminate.
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    mr.green123

    mr.green123 Well-Known Member

    a female plants thats turned into a hermaphrodite and starts producing pollen
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    561crim

    561crim Active Member

    yeah but none of the plants went herme as far as i could tell...no pollen sacks anywhere in sight...average about 10 seeds per plant...and they all produced a large yield...
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    tomato57

    tomato57 Active Member

    The pollen sacks might have been hidden inside the buds thus you did not even notice them.
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    Corbat420

    Corbat420 Well-Known Member

    most of the time the pollen sacks are hidden inside the bud, and there are no longer Pollen sacks, they are male flowers, which have male pistols and can look alot like a female flower to the untrained eye.

    Alof of breeders take the easy rought to feminized seeds, which is creating a hermaphrodite strain of marijuana, where 98% of the plants express female genetics.

    True Feminized seeds are created by changing female flowers into male flowers using colodial silver.
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    Thebuddness

    Thebuddness Member

    On closer inspection I found a few single male flowers on some of the flowering nodes. The breeder description says the plants unstable. Overall, its 99% female. My auto AK-47 that was next to it, made 1 fully developed plump seed.
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    Skunk.n'the.Trunk

    Skunk.n'the.Trunk Active Member

    unstable means that two seeds that came from the same plant may produce two really different offspring. Doesn't really have to do with herm tendency. Not trying to be nit-picky...........just sayin
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    unohu69

    unohu69 Well-Known Member

    colloidal silver ?? I thought it was gimberilic (typing without looking it up) acid. A plant hormone that increases chances but does not guarantee a male branch (if used on only one branch). either way, I need to create a male. dont have any seeds to work with (other than bagseed, which i do not want to use).

    I also heard if you crush up an aspirine and put it in the water it will turn a female to a male.. ?? Ever heard of it?
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    Brick Top

    Brick Top New Member


    Use Colloidal Silver Spray to Make Feminized Cannabis Seeds Like the Seed Banks Do

    Pros:

    • You're able to produce feminized seeds using any two female cannabis plants (even clone-only strains!)
    • You can produce seeds consistently
    • You can control how many seeds produced
    • Easy to make hundreds of feminized seeds if needed
    Cons:

    • You will need to find a source of colloidal silver which well be used to spray the cannabis plants as they start flowering. Your main options are: buying colloidal silver directly, buying a colloidal silver generator, or making your own simple colloidal silver generator yourself (instructions below)
    • It is not safe to directly use/consume any cannabis which has come into contact with colloidal silver, though any seeds produced by a treated plant's pollen are 100% safe. Some space-starved pot farmers will use the colloidal silver to spray just the bottom branch of a cannabis plant so they can still smoke/use the rest of the cannabis buds. You can definitely do this, just be extremely careful not to get any colloidal silver spray on any part of the cannabis that you will be consuming.
    When a female cannabis plant is treated with a solution of tiny silver particles suspended in distilled water, the plant will start to exhibit male characteristics. This solution of silver in water is called colloidal silver and can be purchased from a pharmacy/online or easily made at home. Some people drink colloidal silver for its health benefits and others use it occasionally on plants to help control bacteria, insect, and fungus growth on the leaves.
    However, if you thoroughly mist a female cannabis plant with colloidal silver every day for 10-14 days around the same time that she enters the flowering stage, the concentration of silver ions in the water actually act as an ethylene inhibitor/antagonist on the plant, which forces the plant to create male pollen sacs instead of female buds. The safest way to ensure that your plants will actually turn into males is to keep misting the plants until you see the beginning of male pollen sacs forming. If growing indoors, you start misting the cannabis with colloidal silver when you first change the lights to 12-12, and keep misting her daily until the treated parts start showing male pollen sacs.
    You need to let the sacs swell like a big empty balloon. You will be able to tell when they are about to open because the leaf section protecting the pollen starts to crack. At this point, simply take the pollen sacs off and place them in a cool dry place for a week and let them start to dry. The pollen will come out if you shake them about a little, or you can also cut open the sacs to get to the pollen inside. Use this pollen to pollinate female plants and you will get all-female seeds that are a mix of both their mothers.
    This method is great because it will force almost any cannabis plant to show male characteristics. Unlike the rodelization method described below, you are not selecting for plants that show hermaphrodite traits. The genes of the plant are completely unaffected. This method will also produce a lot of pollen consistently compared to the rodelization method.
    The one downside to this method is that it is not safe to use any cannabis that has come into direct contact with colloidal silver. You should therefore destroy the plant after the pollen has been collected. You will also want to ensure that you clean off any remaining traces of silver off your equipment in case you accidentally contaminate another cannabis plant with silver.
    Here are the main things to keep in mind when using colloidal silver spray method:

    • Make sure you spray the cannabis with a strong enough colloidal silver solution (at least 30 PPM of silver)
    • Spray the cannabis thoroughly to almost drench all the parts you want to turn into pollen sacs
    • Spray the cannabis regularly, at least once a day for 10-14 days, starting when you change the lights to 12-12
    • Spray the cannabis with colloidal silver every day until you see signs of male pollen sacs forming. Some hardy strains may need over 2-3 weeks spraying before they 'turn'.
    Where to Get Colloidal Silver

    Colloidal Silver is created by submersing two pieces of pure silver in distilled water, and then running an electric current between the two pieces of silver. The electric current will cause silver ions to be deposited in the water which creates a colloidal silver solution.
    Buy Colloidal Silver: You can actually buy colloidal silver which has already been prepared and is ready for use. If you're purchasing colloidal silver, try to find a solution that has at least 30 PPM (parts per million) of silver. However, buying Colloidal Silver that is already prepared can get expensive.
    Buy A Generator Kit: A better option is to buy a relatively cheap colloidal silver generator to easily make your own colloidal silver.This Colloidal Generator kit comes with everything you need including silver. All you need to do is provide the water and a container.
    Make Your Own: You can make your own colloidal silver generator at home. The diagram below should illustrate what you need to do.
    Items Needed:

    • 9 volt battery
    • 9v Battery Connector (less than $2 at a hardware or electronics store)
    • Pure .9999 or 999 Silver (yes it must be pure)
    • Distilled water (yes it must be distilled)
    • Alligator clips (Optional: but will make things much easier)
    • Soldering Iron (Optional: only needed if you want to use alligator clips)
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    The diagram above will show you how to easily make your own colloidal silver to make your own feminized cannabis seeds
    When you first connect everything, you may be surprised because it will seem like nothing is happening. You will know if it worked by the next day because the whole process will leave a silvery residue on your silver. You may need to use sandpaper or something else rough to clean your silver each time after creating a batch of colloidal silver.
    If you don't have a soldering iron and would still like to solder alligator clips onto your battery connector, then I recommend going to a hardware store and asking someone if they will help solder it for you.
    Remember to keep your resulting colloidal silver solution away from any light or it will deteriorate and turn a dark gray color. If this happens, then you can no longer use the solution for creating feminized seeds.
    Avoid most problems when making colloidal silver by:

    • using pure (distilled) water
    • using pure (999/.9999) silver
    • giving electrolysis enough time to work so you don't get a weak solution (at least overnight)
    • making sure the solution has as little contact with light as possible until you use it
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    Brick Top

    Brick Top New Member


    They will carry the hermie genetics and be more likely to turn hermie than feminized seeds, which are more likely to turn hermie than regular seeds are.

    I wouldn't waste my time using them.
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    unohu69

    unohu69 Well-Known Member

    Dude, most awesome. Answers many questions. I have the breeders bible, but have yet broken into it. just trying to get a couple of girls stabilized in a new home and environment. Then, let the breeding begin.

    My hope is to create my own killer nugg strain that grow here well, with a huge resistance to mold. Fukn hate mold, takes half my good buds every year. I might try some protek stuff next year.
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    Corbat420

    Corbat420 Well-Known Member

    Brick Top i havn't seen you in AGES! probably because i havn;t been looking ;)

    its good to see your still around spreading your vast pool of knowledge.
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    Thebuddness

    Thebuddness Member

    I learned lots on this thread, thanks for responses. I'm growing a Dutch Passion cali o. It definitelh has the occasional male flower. At what point is a plant considered hermi? It's s beautiful plant 98% female flowers. I can see there will be a few seeded buds,

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