Seed Bank Question: http://www.marijuana-seeds.nl/

Plants on Nitro

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Ok they finally responded to my email as "That might be possible" What does that mean? They should of said, that they would send replacements out right away. Yep my first delivery from them was mailed straight to address no problem, but second odrder was sent Registered mail. I did get those tiny seeds also.
 

uberwaba

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I ordered 10 Aurora Indica seeds + the 5 bonus seeds. So far not even one has germinated, had this same problem with another batch of seeds from the U.K. This site claims to be netherlands but the seeds come from U.K. so I think thats all alot of bull. I will only order from real netherland sites in the future.
 

TheKing

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I purchased the White Widow Max. Only 3 of 10 germinated, and they were pitiful. The free seeds that they included were very good though. Delivery took 8 business days. I got some others from The Doggies Nuts....they were pricey but EVERY ONE OF THEM GERMINATED and was outrageously healthy. The downside, of course, is that they were VERY expensive. I guess you get what you pay for.
 

smokingrubber

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everything I got from marijuana-seeds.nl was a complete waste. The ones that DID survive, were all dudes. I'm not buying from marijuana-seeds.nl again!
 

dirt clean

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ok, i trusted these guys and I am gonna confess i am prob being a bit early here. It has been about 5 weeks. My LR2 have not begun to flower yet. I have tried everything. They are almost three feet high! They are huge, they have begun to outgrow their 3 gallon pots. wow, they are a mystery.

I have ordered from them in the past. My Northern lights was a sativa. my free seeds, mazar afgahn were all a male sativa. The lowrider2 all look like they are form the same batch as does the Fem white widow skunk I am growing. That is three orders form them.

Lol, I like the plants to tell you the truth. I like the looks of all the girls. I like the stealth and the shipping. I like the fem ratios of all the fem seeds. All 100 percent.

Howver what the F is up with lowirder 2 growing to 3 feet high and 5 weeks of no veg! Any body heard of anything similiar?
 

Iron Lungz23

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ok, i trusted these guys and I am gonna confess i am prob being a bit early here. It has been about 5 weeks. My LR2 have not begun to flower yet. I have tried everything. They are almost three feet high! They are huge, they have begun to outgrow their 3 gallon pots. wow, they are a mystery.

I have ordered from them in the past. My Northern lights was a sativa. my free seeds, mazar afgahn were all a male sativa. The lowrider2 all look like they are form the same batch as does the Fem white widow skunk I am growing. That is three orders form them.

Lol, I like the plants to tell you the truth. I like the looks of all the girls. I like the stealth and the shipping. I like the fem ratios of all the fem seeds. All 100 percent.

Howver what the F is up with lowirder 2 growing to 3 feet high and 5 weeks of no veg! Any body heard of anything similiar?
Hey bro, I got northern lights from marijuana-seeds.nl & they r the smallest seeds I've ever seen! What were yours like?bongsmilie
 

growinman

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.......I have ordered from these guys on two occasions. Both times they had great fast service and I was very happy.......at first. I had great germ rates from 'okay' looking seeds; albeit small.

The best phenos I kept for moms.......well, there were no 'bests.' This last run with them I did the THC Bomb and the freebie Mazar x Afghan. Great germ rates and I am thingking they must have been about 50/50 m/f. The Mazar had the most rediculously large leafs(HUGE!!--like 2 1/2" across the width of the middle finger). They did not finish for me.......they wouldn't! I had a fricken monster in a 5 gal dwc that drank over 2 gals a day for over 100 days......when I finally started clipping fans off it started getting trics and finally after a long time I said f-this!, and chopped. I ended up with a fair amount of weak bud that smells like lemon cake, is fluffy, mostly leaf....
Granted, I am not really a indica grower<---for sure now......I ran like about 7-10 of them in an AF20 to the same avail.....but I had to pull them at 65 days because of the mainstay I grow comes out at 60 days..... It turned out weaker than the dwc plant....So all-in-all I have about a lb of cured lemon cake that I am going to donate to a lady I know that cooks with it and whatever-----I sure cant do anything with it!
The THC Bomb is great pot to smoke and has a good all around high...... It's supposed to be a 60ish day plant too......it was done on time, looked nice and sweet sticky golden glow to it....... I just couldn't get over 1/2 zip a plant that I vegged for a couple weeks---I ran my SS next to it in the AF and those all averaged well over a zip cured out, as they ALWAYS do. The quantity was only an issue because of the hype they put behind this as they did to me a couple of years ago on something else.

If you want to know anything more feel free to pm me or look for my gallery as I have pics of all of this.....<-----my journel is a mess and I haven't touched in a month, and pretty much the same with the pics...

I am really not trying to knock these guys down or anything. It may very well be my growing skills........:mrgreen: But I 'll stay with The Attitude and Serious Seed........you get what you pay for.....

growinman
 

Iron Lungz23

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.......I have ordered from these guys on two occasions. Both times they had great fast service and I was very happy.......at first. I had great germ rates from 'okay' looking seeds; albeit small.

The best phenos I kept for moms.......well, there were no 'bests.' This last run with them I did the THC Bomb and the freebie Mazar x Afghan. Great germ rates and I am thingking they must have been about 50/50 m/f. The Mazar had the most rediculously large leafs(HUGE!!--like 2 1/2" across the width of the middle finger). They did not finish for me.......they wouldn't! I had a fricken monster in a 5 gal dwc that drank over 2 gals a day for over 100 days......when I finally started clipping fans off it started getting trics and finally after a long time I said f-this!, and chopped. I ended up with a fair amount of weak bud that smells like lemon cake, is fluffy, mostly leaf....
Granted, I am not really a indica grower<---for sure now......I ran like about 7-10 of them in an AF20 to the same avail.....but I had to pull them at 65 days because of the mainstay I grow comes out at 60 days..... It turned out weaker than the dwc plant....So all-in-all I have about a lb of cured lemon cake that I am going to donate to a lady I know that cooks with it and whatever-----I sure cant do anything with it!
The THC Bomb is great pot to smoke and has a good all around high...... It's supposed to be a 60ish day plant too......it was done on time, looked nice and sweet sticky golden glow to it....... I just couldn't get over 1/2 zip a plant that I vegged for a couple weeks---I ran my SS next to it in the AF and those all averaged well over a zip cured out, as they ALWAYS do. The quantity was only an issue because of the hype they put behind this as they did to me a couple of years ago on something else.

If you want to know anything more feel free to pm me or look for my gallery as I have pics of all of this.....<-----my journel is a mess and I haven't touched in a month, and pretty much the same with the pics...

I am really not trying to knock these guys down or anything. It may very well be my growing skills........:mrgreen: But I 'll stay with The Attitude and Serious Seed........you get what you pay for.....

growinman
Thanks for all that info bro, I still can't get over these seeds man! They're tiny! I've got the mazar/afghan freebies to! I'll try them under both MH & HPS with a higher emphasis on blue spectrum, using a 1000W MH & a 600W HPS through veg. I'll do the seedlings for 2 weeks under the 1000W, then introduce the 600HPS for a further 4 weeks. Then I'll alternate the lights to 1000W HPS & 600W MH for 8-12 weeks depending on peak harvest time.

I'm waiting on some more beans, Nirvana AK-48 & Chrystal(northern lights/white widow).
Hope these bloody miniture beans pop! I'll be sure to ask u any questions I have in the future! Cheers matebongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmilie++rep bro!!
 

hydgrow

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Ok they finally responded to my email as "That might be possible" What does that mean? They should of said, that they would send replacements out right away. Yep my first delivery from them was mailed straight to address no problem, but second odrder was sent Registered mail. I did get those tiny seeds also.
quit being a pussy and go get em' man it's cool tons of us have gone to the post office to pick em up who cares? just say you dont know whats in there any one could of mailed it to ya.
 

growinman

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Thanks for all that info bro, I still can't get over these seeds man! They're tiny! I've got the mazar/afghan freebies to! I'll try them under both MH & HPS with a higher emphasis on blue spectrum, using a 1000W MH & a 600W HPS through veg. I'll do the seedlings for 2 weeks under the 1000W, then introduce the 600HPS for a further 4 weeks. Then I'll alternate the lights to 1000W HPS & 600W MH for 8-12 weeks depending on peak harvest time.

I'm waiting on some more beans, Nirvana AK-48 & Chrystal(northern lights/white widow).
Hope these bloody miniture beans pop! I'll be sure to ask u any questions I have in the future! Cheers matebongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmilie++rep bro!!
Right On, Iron Lungs, I am very curious how your MA grows out for you. If you have a journel, or start one, plz let me know! Keep some pics, if you dont. It would sure be cool if I had just been doing something wrong.... I 've never had the oppertunity to cure so much bud correctly:-P and this MA smells like lemon cake with frosting, I sh*t you not; is actually some really sweet stuff. I smoked a blunt last night of choice(albeit leafy) budz ground up and smoked great; took about 10 hits and my whole house smelled like Pledge....no buzz, nothing......then I was watching the news a few minutes later and I definately had a 'buzz', though very light; came on real slow.....I went and smoked some MoonFlower and forgot all about the MA.....:hump:

Great Luck to you and please let me know how it goes!!

+rep4u2:clap:

growinman:joint::bigjoint:
 

Iron Lungz23

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Right On, Iron Lungs, I am very curious how your MA grows out for you. If you have a journel, or start one, plz let me know! Keep some pics, if you dont. It would sure be cool if I had just been doing something wrong.... I 've never had the oppertunity to cure so much bud correctly:-P and this MA smells like lemon cake with frosting, I sh*t you not; is actually some really sweet stuff. I smoked a blunt last night of choice(albeit leafy) budz ground up and smoked great; took about 10 hits and my whole house smelled like Pledge....no buzz, nothing......then I was watching the news a few minutes later and I definately had a 'buzz', though very light; came on real slow.....I went and smoked some MoonFlower and forgot all about the MA.....:hump:

Great Luck to you and please let me know how it goes!!

+rep4u2:clap:

growinman:joint::bigjoint:
I'll keep u updated for sure bro! Just received my order from nirvana today aswell!! I'll let u know how my MA go, where did u get MoonFlower?bongsmilie
 

Puna Bud

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everything I got from marijuana-seeds.nl was a complete waste. The ones that DID survive, were all dudes. I'm not buying from marijuana-seeds.nl again!
okay, I&#699;d like to chime in on this too. I have bought several times from these folks. With it comes mixed feelings. I&#699;d say 80% germination for me! I thing the one strain the was the biggest disappointment for me from them was the "Big Bud" strain 9 0utta ten seeds were males!!!!! Plus I ordered &#699;Purple Widow&#699;, and it came to my attention that there were problems there too of sorts. Of the ten so-called Purple Widow seeds, I got maybe six different strains from it???

I did have a problem with seeds I stored from them. In six months time, I could only muster up a 20% germination from these very same seeds?!

As far as mailing goes. I thought they did a pretty good job. My package came rather fast!

Good Luck
 

Brick Top

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okay, I&#699;d like to chime in on this too. I have bought several times from these folks. With it comes mixed feelings. I&#699;d say 80% germination for me! I thing the one strain the was the biggest disappointment for me from them was the "Big Bud" strain 9 0utta ten seeds were males!!!!! Plus I ordered &#699;Purple Widow&#699;, and it came to my attention that there were problems there too of sorts. Of the ten so-called Purple Widow seeds, I got maybe six different strains from it???

I did have a problem with seeds I stored from them. In six months time, I could only muster up a 20% germination from these very same seeds?!

As far as mailing goes. I thought they did a pretty good job. My package came rather fast!

Good Luck

One thing to keep in mind is that you dealt with a seedbank and not a breeder. If someone gets a high proportion of males to females or they had low germ rates etc. any disappointment should be with/about the breeder whose seeds you purchased and not the reseller/the seedbank since they are in no way responsible.
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If a seedbank charges fair prices and ships quickly and uses a system of shipping that is stealthy enough to get to customers a very high percentage of the time and if there are any problems they make an honest attempt to help or make things right that is all that can be asked of any seedbank.
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I have never used that particular seedbank so I am not saying they are good or bad or anything in between. I am just pointing out that far to often people blame seedbanks when they should be blaming the breeder or breeders whose seeds they purchased through a seedbank.
 

growinman

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One thing to keep in mind is that you dealt with a seedbank and not a breeder. If someone gets a high proportion of males to females or they had low germ rates etc. any disappointment should be with/about the breeder whose seeds you purchased and not the reseller/the seedbank since they are in no way responsible.
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If a seedbank charges fair prices and ships quickly and uses a system of shipping that is stealthy enough to get to customers a very high percentage of the time and if there are any problems they make an honest attempt to help or make things right that is all that can be asked of any seedbank.
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I have never used that particular seedbank so I am not saying they are good or bad or anything in between. I am just pointing out that far to often people blame seedbanks when they should be blaming the breeder or breeders whose seeds they purchased through a seedbank.
Well, they have no claims that I 've seen only that they are 'Dutch Breeders' in Holland......... I mean like with The Attitude, for example, they list all the breeders, like names 'we' know and have come to trust. Nirvana too, lists all the breeders...... But this site in question does have cheap prices and awesome/fast shipping..... My last 2 cents on this is that I guess it boils down to you get what you pay for when it comes to the genetics and stabilities in the strains.....

And I am not really trying to put them down at all, though through experience I wouldn't use them again--- I like to know what I am getting, or have a chance to get......and if I ever buy bad buds from somebody you can bet I blame them not the grower---whomever is selling better know what they are selling........:peace:

growinman
 

Brick Top

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Well, they have no claims that I 've seen only that they are 'Dutch Breeders' in Holland......... I mean like with The Attitude, for example, they list all the breeders, like names 'we' know and have come to trust. Nirvana too, lists all the breeders...... But this site in question does have cheap prices and awesome/fast shipping..... My last 2 cents on this is that I guess it boils down to you get what you pay for when it comes to the genetics and stabilities in the strains.....

And I am not really trying to put them down at all, though through experience I wouldn't use them again--- I like to know what I am getting, or have a chance to get......and if I ever buy bad buds from somebody you can bet I blame them not the grower---whomever is selling better know what they are selling........:peace:

growinman

It is only a possibility but if you have noticed on Attitude’s website they wholesale any stock older than six months old so possibly the site in question buys older stock at reduced prices from various high grade seedbanks. That would give them a selection of different breeders gear but maybe they do not break it down by breeder because they may not always have a steady supply from any particular breeder so they may put all White Widow together and all Blueberry together and all Cheese together and so on and just claim "a Dutch breeder" as the supplier. That very well may not be the case but it could explain low prices and varying genetics in each strain. A six month old bean is very viable so they could still supply people with beans that have a high germ rate, or at least high enough to be acceptable, and do it at reduced prices but it would explain why strains will vary from person to person and purchase to purchase.


Myself I would not blame a seedbank if I received less than magnificent beans.

If there was a horrible germ rate I would politely mention it to them and expect them to stand behind them knowing that the breeder would then reimburse them and if they did not then I would have a reason to be upset with the seedbank but I cannot blame them for poor genetics when they did not breed the beans. That was the work of the breeder and no seedbank can test grow every run of beans they are supplied to see if they are up to par so they are not the ones who are responsible.
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I guess I tend to look at such things differently than most people Being a former owner of an automobile dealership and then a marina that sold boats now and then I dealt with customers who purchased something and then had a problem and of course came back to us.
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People would come back to us and literally say that we built a bad car or a bad boat. I would explain to them that we did not build anything but we did sell it and we would stand behind it and make things right and then the factory who built it would reimburse us for our work repairing their error.
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It is the same with seedbanks. They, like I was, are just middlemen and nothing more.

They do have a degree of responsibility to stand behind what they sell and in certain cases do what can be done to make things right but other than their service they are not personally responsible for anything more.

If the breeder whose gear they sell will reimburse them, as many will in certain cases, a seedbank will replace the beans and if not they may do nothing and they are not required to do anything and they should not be expected to do anything.
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Like the cars I put on my lot and the boats I put on my lot seedbanks pay for what they sell and if they reimburse the amount a customer paid them for beans the seedbank had purchased, or send replacement beans, the seedbank ends up paying.

No business should ever be expected to do that.
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If someone is unhappy some seedbanks, like Attitude, will at times give them a discount on their next purchase.

If something along those lines are not enough for a customer they have every right to take their business elsewhere but it is just not logical to put the breath on a seedbank when a problem was in fact a breeder problem and not a seedbank problem.
 

growinman

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Right on BT! You make perfect sense and you have a very realistic look, view, and opinion of this hole thing. I would agree with you more than I may have come across. I may see things a bit different than others at times and jump to conclutions......I am at fault for that; just dont sell me any bad weed(jk):mrgreen:

Have a great weekend!!

growinman
 

grannyg2

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money cleared the bank 4/7/09, confirmation e-mail recieved, order shipped, so they said it is 5/8/09 and I can''t find the e-mail they sent and they won't e-mail back to me` ya think I got skcrewed:cry:
 

txhomegrown

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I have ordered from these guys 3 times now. I used them because of the positive things that were being said about their shipping and of course the prices. I have had varied degrees of success with their beans. I had never seriously tried to grow before, and I knew that I was likely to kill a large percentage of what I had while I was getting my system and rooms set up right. I figured why spend a lot of money on high dollar genetics and shit when I was learning, experimenting and generally fucking up everything I touched. I have been able to grow enough decent smoke to keep me going. BUT NOW, I have everything dialed in and I am ready for the good shit. I ordered beans from The Attitude last night. Blueberry, Strawberry Cough, Himalayan Gold and Afghan Kush. They are throwing in 1 Blue Venom and 1 Pure Gold seed as well. All for about $60 USD. Sorry for the long post, but I am STOKED!!!
 
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