Sealed room, T5's, Dew point, evaporative cooler

BruceBan

New Member
Hey guys im in the process of building my veg and had all these awesome ideas worked out
I was under the assumption T5's put off next to no heat.
I started to use one to illuminate a small room I was working in, 1 T5 4' with 8 bulbs on
would start heating up the room hot within hours (summertime).
My veg im building is going to have 2 (8) bulb 4' T5's in a even smaller place 6x6.

Initially I thought T5s only put off a small amount of heat, and my veg has to be sealed
I was going to use a temperature controller kill switch
and hook up a evaporative cooler in this small sealed 6'x6' room
so when the temps raised the evaporation cooler would kick on for a while and drop the temps then shut off well Im worried now when the veg is going to be mostly 24/0 and then some 18/6
if that evaporative cooler has to run constant to keep it cool while also raising RH
its going to reach its dew point at 100% RH not be able to cool at all and do more damage then good?
This idea I thought was a spark of genius since veg plants like high humidity which evaporation coolers make and I needed to control the environment temps anyway and was cheaper than any A/C system applicable for this sealed room.

I came to a conclusion that I would need an A/C capable of 3K btus to cool (2) 8 bulb 4" T5's off wattage
432 watts + 432 watts = 864w converted into btus @ (3.41 Btus per 1 watt)

One of the problems is the small 6x6 room is in the basement with no windows
a majority of the wall is concrete and the top 1/4 of the wall and ceiling is dry wall
I sealed it off that lead to 2'-3' high crawl space,
which I assumed was sealed anyways (dirt, rock, and cinder block sides)
The entrance is wood frame and sealed by plastic door
but the adjacent room has gas water boiler/heat w/ a flue pipe
I dont think venting 3K btu of heat would cause too much back draft
but the heat build up in that same room is what I would worry about.

So I cant find any split system A/Cs even close to as low as 3k btus or a reasonable price,
I already have a 5k btu window banger no idea how I could make that work without running into problems
also have a portable 14k which seems like overkill and has the hoses; but once again ventilation.

I really hope im over reacting just because its summer time (2 months left)
the rooms are hot already I use a swamp cooler upstairs for a loft style room and works great
but these T5's in a sealed room I worry will cook up into the 90's
Ive exhausted all my ideas, running canned C02, getting an oversized mini split,
using ice blocks and water with a fan and coils
the one I want to do least is put a window banger venting into the crawl space
or use a porta A/c venting into the water heat room or crawl space.

Any Ideas or input would help, I'm going to begin testing just how hot this sealed room will get with (2) T5's.
 

BruceBan

New Member
Has anyone ever heard of Devap cooling? there isn't much about it on the internet but its a big Evaportive cooler that has a built in desiccant, suppose to be the revolution of cooling or some shit.

So its got me thinking, I already had the idea of running a dehu and a evap cooler in same room but each one would cancel each other out, Dehu = Heat, Evap = Slight Cool

Now ive seen this videos of people using desiccant's online in their rooms nothing to fancy but in theory if I made one strong enough and circulated the whole room through it would it suck up enough moisture for the evap cooler to continue cooling the room with dry air?
 

Eon1

Active Member
Has anyone ever heard of Devap cooling? there isn't much about it on the internet but its a big Evaportive cooler that has a built in desiccant, suppose to be the revolution of cooling or some shit.

So its got me thinking, I already had the idea of running a dehu and a evap cooler in same room but each one would cancel each other out, Dehu = Heat, Evap = Slight Cool

Now ive seen this videos of people using desiccant's online in their rooms nothing to fancy but in theory if I made one strong enough and circulated the whole room through it would it suck up enough moisture for the evap cooler to continue cooling the room with dry air?

This is basically a bump cause i'm interested in DEVAP as well. especially if we can get some smaller units. I read an article somewhere that Ikea is switching to DEVAP for their buildings. Mostly I see it used on commercial buildings but there is that EcoSnap unit made by some guys at NREL where they made up DEVAP. I have also seen diy units made on youtube as well but I have no Idea what parts to buy or where to start. I mean I know you need a desiccant wheel and a heater to reheat the desiccant but that's about it. I don't know how to move the air the right way across the right stuff to get it done. Hopefully someone who knows more will chime in :D
 
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