Sea-of-Green: Grams per inch thread

[Mad Hamish]

Lets settle the matter like big boys. Here is my one tent in transition to SoG from bigger plants. In three weeks we measure the floor space on the big ones and get the average on the dry bud. Four weeks later we weigh in the SoG and compare. Same strains so apples and apples. Chosen mother is Salvation by Gage.

 

[MOON SHINER]

Pulling up a chair.

 

[Soulkipper]

don't forget to count nodes before flower, height, time in veg, etc...
time isn't necessarily the most accurate measurement so nodes and whatnot may be a better theory.
amt of water.

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Lets settle the matter like big boys. Here is my one tent in transition to SoG from bigger plants. In three weeks we measure the floor space on the big ones and get the average on the dry bud. Four weeks later we weigh in the SoG and compare. Same strains so apples and apples. Chosen mother is Salvation by Gage.

Would love it if you would post updates for us along the way.

 

[Wolf pack]

Sog do not mean no veg time....it's just lots of plants.

9 1gal pots,13oz,under 315watt LEC

 

[Soulkipper]

where would these end up if put into 12/12 right now?

they are all way different.
6 plants
1 with 4 nodes
1 with hardly 1 node
1 with 3 nodes
3 with 2 nodes in very different stages as you can see.
*0-3wks apart.

how fast can u turn out the most successful yield is sorta the question of this topic.

 

[Wolf pack]

In them cups,?
What light?

But I will say for a good female,around 10-15 grams..give or take.

 

[Soulkipper]

What are your thoughts on this analysis:
Photosynthetic response of Cannabis sativa L. to variations in photosynthetic photon flux densities, temperature and CO2 conditions:
http://home.olemiss.edu/~suman/PhysiologyandMol.Biol.2008.pdf

Among other things it states:
"...the maximum rate of photosynthesis
(PN max) was observed at 30 oC and under 1500 µmol m-2s-1 PPFD."

Optimal lumen/sq. ft. (after converting µmol to lux to lumen) is 11,427 lumen/square foot
400w CMH is 38,400 lumen/sq. ft @ 1 ft.
400w CMH is 17,100 lumen/sq. ft @ 1.5 ft.
400w CMH is 12,500 lumen/sq. ft @ 1.75 ft. (most plants are around this distance.)
400w CMH is 11,700 lumen/sq. ft @ 1.80 ft. (Here's as close to optimal as it gets. Many plants are here.)
400w CMH is 10,400 lumen/sq. ft @ 1.92 sq. ft (distance to the back side of the corner plants.)

Thoughts?

sounds like the worst thing you can do is use high watt lightbulbs or single bulbs.
Something similar to Christmas lights fixed with grow LED's would seem to be the best or near best option.

 

[Soulkipper]

Sog do not mean no veg time....it's just lots of plants.

9 1gal pots,13oz,under 315watt LEC

that's not enough yield.
in Hobbes grow guide he uses a crop circle of bud.. 12" 5gal buckets * pi to get 36"^2 or about 1^2m and he pulls off around 1200-1600grams per plant. that's probably the way to go.
but in the mean time you have to clone and whatnot so you'll have a few extra plants that need flowered or thrown away.. so what is the best option for bud node count/height/leafs/etc.. to guarantee the best short stack of buds?

 

[n!n.budz]

your attitude is all wrong. if you want people to offer honest and helpful advice you are going about it in a fucked up way.

maybe take a little trip to noob central and ask there but i'm sure there isn't going to be many people offering you help if you keep talking shit like that.

STANDARD

 

[Doer]

Interesting thread, and I wonder if the OP is in the same boat as many of us? Over planning.

You can plan the perfect grow but can you grow the perfect grow? The answer is no. There is no such thing. We will all agree on this. The perfect grow is on a mountainside in Tibet. But, seriously it is about only a few things.
- Root space
- clean water
- PAR watts
- serious feeding techniques (not good nutes. Nutes are a ganja myth rippoff to me)

For me, the main thing is how well do I get to that bursting bounty of a naturally healthy, happy and vigorously growing plant in Veg, That makes the real difference, for me, in final yield and quality.

I'm not sure what this has to do with Vertical Growing, however.

 

[Soulkipper]

I'm finding it's taking about 3 1/2 days from the sight of a new node to the start of the next one. This about average?

What about average time after you top them?

 

[n!n.budz]

Interesting thread, and I wonder if the OP is in the same boat as many of us? Over planning.

You can plan the perfect grow but can you grow the perfect grow? The answer is no. There is no such thing. We will all agree on this. The perfect grow is on a mountainside in Tibet. But, seriously it is about only a few things.
- Root space
- clean water
- PAR watts
- serious feeding techniques (not good nutes. Nutes are a ganja myth rippoff to me)

For me, the main thing is how well do I get to that bursting bounty of a naturally healthy, happy and vigorously growing plant in Veg, That makes the real difference, for me, in final yield and quality.

I'm not sure what this has to do with Vertical Growing, however.

if i could find how to like comments id lkke this haha ..

 

[Doer]

if i could find how to like comments id lkke this haha ..

It's OK. You have to make posts and be here for a time, to get that privilege. You will get there.

IAC< thanks.

 

[Doer]

I'm finding it's taking about 3 1/2 days from the sight of a new node to the start of the next one. This about average?

What about average time after you top them?

I don't top. It just adds time. If I hit the sweet spot with feeding technique, then I should get a 24" tall plant minimum in 8 weeks with the Sativa dominates I usually plant. My limit here is root space and PAR watts, in a 32x32 tent for veg.

Roots grow faster than I had ever imagined in planning, so my next set up will be with more space, for 6 gal buckets instead of 2.5 gal.

 

[Soulkipper]

6 gallons is so much extra dirt though.. make a flower box.

 

[Doer]

6 gallons is so much extra dirt though.. make a flower box.

I won't use soil
Coir and hydroton

 

[sky rocket]

I was replying to ignorant post of large plants are waste of time and space. That you obviously didn't read. More shoots equals more buds. Thats a given..

I've done sog for 3 batches 3 years ago. Yield was horrible in comparison. I got 6 zips of 12 plants. I probably didn't have the right strains. That was with 2 weeks veg time. I have never seen anyone pull more than 10 grams per plant with zero veg time. Every sog thread on here that claims huge yields is incomplete and never shows the end result.

I will run a true sog (6-8" rooted clones with no veg time). I will have or should have 100-120 rooted clones under 2x600 magnum xxl hoods with c02, drain to waste hempy style. Strain of choice will be reserva Prada tangie. I'll keep y'all posted. Aiming for 10-13 grams per plant.....in my dream world if I could avg 13 grams per plant x 120 plants that would be1.3 gpw.....now back to the real world if I could do 10 grams per plant I would be ecstatic.....lol

 

[Mad Hamish]

I totally forgot about this thread whoooops... I will get some pics soon, I need to for a test run I am busy with... SoG style girls are about half way, flowered out to a total seven nodes. Had to chop some very excited branches they thout they were on trees cute... second run of the same type went in a week ago, legs shaven a bit more, introduced a Bubba to the rig too. All looking fantastic...

 

[Mad Hamish]

I do have one pic, but this is the Dank Sinatra Remix, different type so can't make her part of the experiment. SoG, zero veg, flowered at 5 nodes, two nodes removed in week two flower, butt fluff buds. Plants total around 30cm height. Very dense buds. Going to be like a bat.