SCROG OFF!! New school vs old school. Sealed rooms- 12 plants.

greentiger.sd

greentiger.sd

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After re-looking at the title of the original post, '...new school vs. old school...' I forgot to mention all my techniques are from norcal and particularly oakland california growers handed down over the years, so believe it or not I'm old school all the way.
In production mode I usually have 12 ladies per 1000 by 4'x4' area....unless the circumstances are right and three1000's can be put over a 4'x8' area, this by far is optimum and idle for breaking the 2g/watt barrier.
 
jimbizzzale67123

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greentiger.sd said:
Wow, you guys are fast haha. frog, that's really awesome for a first round you should be proud for sure.
But lets all back off a bit here's a short story and my horn totting: ) ok so I will definitely provide pics of dried beauties when my current batch is done. I apologize I don't have dry pics up at the moment or complete journals of crops as I came on to this forum before fully documenting a full round of anything I've been apart of or done myself. I grew up on being told never to document certain things so I post only what I feel comfortable with.
Thus all videos/pics I will ever post are of a small area that includes vegging and flower. Believe it or not unless otherwise posted all flowering pics and videos are in one tent under one 1000, yes you read that right. It's a 4x8 with a raptor, great for the particular situation. This beautiful 1000 tent has been popping .5g to 1g per watt depending on the strain which have been, Jack Flash, G13, White Rhino, Lemon Kush, GDP, and Platinum Bubba.
This area is basically used for genetic testing to understand what the strain likes, if I like the strain, and then determining if I'll keep them and use them later breeding or productions. I would suggest everyone to consider having this type of test area if space is available and production/breeding is your game. This is also why you'll probably only see Grodan blacks and slabs from me as well.
I don't know if i really answered everything, there were a lot of comments. Oh, yea, LST, topping, and bushmaster, specifically for an even canopy. hit up my journal to learn more info about where i'm coming from. honestly i made an account because i'm tired of reading the BS, sometimes I think people are telling others the wrong stuff on purpose and although there are many ways of doing stuff, I'm sure you guys agree with me about some stuff. Anyways I'm starting to work on a detailed LST video/pic/log and will start to journal it soon.
ALWAYS look for pic/video references everyone, then decide what you what you're plants to look like.
Let me know if I missed anything, wait, you guys totally will, what am I thinking...
With green love for you all,
kat; )
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We dont misinform people around here. I use to LST with plants in soil, and I would get maybe a ounce per plant. Now I scrog in hydro with one plant and I got over 10 ounces.


And if it were as easy as looking at a picture and growing exactly like that, everyone would be a expert.

Something just seems funny here. Or maybe its the Vicodin because I just had my tonsils out last Wednesday.
 
frogster

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Well said G.T.. thanks for the post... I suppose its "new school vs old" because I am using cheap weak ass MH through the entire grow... And somewhere , way back, before the scrogoff started I mentioned that this is what they used in the early 70's and that the shit is more potent given the same circumstances.. although less yield... (reality is, I didnt have $$ for better lights for my MH ballast,,, some hortilux blues would be ideal) So, Im just looking fior an excuse to be happy with what I have..lol JimBzz... he wasn't referring to us on the B.S part. Its why he created an account.. ,, SHADE! Lol .. I received a p.m from him about all the b.s on the site..
 
jimbizzzale67123

jimbizzzale67123

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Yea im not good with pain killers, and im not able to smoke. I feel like crap I just took 30 min to eat a little cup of yogurt I feel pathetic.
 
frogster

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Cruzer... The pics really dont give an idea,, its a jungle in the middle... a layer of bud.. Your outdoor was spectacular, the damn mites had a field day at a few times... ... picking on soil growers is in fun, in my viewpoint.. Many on this forum cant grow a hydro plant near as good as a few soil growers can... Im using my hydro water straight from the rez to feed my lil soil ice cream plant,, And Im the most proud of her... I just initially added old crappy outside porch soil from a few seasons of flower baskets, and some fresh ewc.. and whalaa! lol
 
greentiger.sd

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I was talking about pictures and videos to back up what you're saying. glad you're laying down on your vicodin, grab your break out your vap bro....
To the rest of your comment, my LST techniques are not like all the lame videos out there, hence I will be posting a journal of this. Also have you considered that now going hydro changed maybe just a little bit of your situation? do you have no pics or journal going about all these trials and experiences? Also, my situation is not like everyone elses. I come from a larger production standpoint, not a cool one big lady in your closest fun run....I do not have time to build a bs screens on 6 to 10 plus trays, every f*ing time I flower...and if you can tell from my additude having to trim small bs popcorn buds makes me want to shoot myself, thus I'm all about big beautiful tops. If you LST properly you shouldn't need to use screens or stakes, period.
Think about it, if you guys haven't seen pics like mine, this must mean not a lot of people know or use the techniques I use. And so is the same for the information I give that not everyone agrees with....
Also all my nutes and particular mix was handed down to me as well. My base is GH and I def use old school additives.
MH isn't the worst thing frog, like I said it looks great. Any pics big jim over there????; )
 
jimbizzzale67123

jimbizzzale67123

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greentiger.sd said:
I was talking about pictures and videos to back up what you're saying. glad you're laying down on your vicodin, grab your break out your vap bro....
To the rest of your comment, my LST techniques are not like all the lame videos out there, hence I will be posting a journal of this. Also have you considered that now going hydro changed maybe just a little bit of your situation? do you have no pics or journal going about all these trials and experiences? Also, my situation is not like everyone elses. I come from a larger production standpoint, not a cool one big lady in your closest fun run....I do not have time to build a bs screens on 6 to 10 plus trays, every f*ing time I flower...and if you can tell from my additude having to trim small bs popcorn buds makes me want to shoot myself, thus I'm all about big beautiful tops. If you LST properly you shouldn't need to use screens or stakes, period.
Think about it, if you guys haven't seen pics like mine, this must mean not a lot of people know or use the techniques I use. And so is the same for the information I give that not everyone agrees with....
Also all my nutes and particular mix was handed down to me as well. My base is GH and I def use old school additives.
MH isn't the worst thing frog, like I said it looks great. Any pics big jim over there????; )
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https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/375459-white-widow-waterfarm-1st-journal-10.html

Here is my journal have fun, I dont bullshit anyone. Its not white widow its coletrain ignore the title.

And I had a few buds that were 14grams is that big enough for you.

I also dont grow just for fun, I grow for my self.
 
Danielsgb

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Time to dive into the shit talking.

You guys and your salty water.

Those are both nice grows.
But truly. I've tasted Hydro vs. Soil many times. Hands down the soil grown Cannabis tasted better.

Daniels:weed:
 
greentiger.sd

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Nice pics jim from all that I can find. honestly people save a couple of cost and put them in a journal for easy access for everyone. 14 grams is great, here's my ideal plant, I'll let you all do the math after knowing I typically run 12 ladies per 1000. So with all my topping, LST, nutes, love, etc. my girls each turn out with 10 to 12 tops, each top averaging 7g to 10g's. Of course this all depends on the genetics and how fast I need to start flipping for that particular situation. For example, this is not how big I let the girls go when Im starting out in a spot...ugh now you got me on a topic I don't know if I should finish.....
 
jimbizzzale67123

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greentiger.sd said:
Nice pics jim from all that I can find. honestly people save a couple of cost and put them in a journal for easy access for everyone. 14 grams is great, here's my ideal plant, I'll let you all do the math after knowing I typically run 12 ladies per 1000. So with all my topping, LST, nutes, love, etc. my girls each turn out with 10 to 12 tops, each top averaging 7g to 10g's. Of course this all depends on the genetics and how fast I need to start flipping for that particular situation. For example, this is not how big I let the girls go when Im starting out in a spot...ugh now you got me on a topic I don't know if I should finish.....
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Thats great, I dont want to go to jail so I grow one plant at a time with a scrog and I get way more then i ever got before when I LST. I must be doing something wrong, maybe I should look at more pictures and say thats what I want and it will grow like that.........
 
jimbizzzale67123

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And what you are doing is nothing new, so I really wouldn't feel that special inside.

There are some really good growers here and they dont go around telling everyone they are doing it wrong.
 
jimbizzzale67123

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And if you are a commercial grower, making a youtube channel and posting your operation probably isn't a good idea.

But I dont go around telling people what to do.
 
greentiger.sd

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First forgot my shout out to uk420.
Second, Daniel, send me your P.O. box, honestly, I use to feel the same way, but let me smoke you out. I haven't even touched on my sweets yet in the forums, yay!
Third, Jim have you read anything?? watch food matters, your doctors lie to you. I would give you my practitioners license number on here, but hello suicide. Food Matters, is the easiest way for me to explain what I'm talking about with the least amount of time. I would suggest slowing down, I didn't say you're giving out completely wrong advice. We are in two situations and even complimented you bro. I did say some people to give out shit though. I really don't mind answering any questions you have, but you are making a lot of assumptions about me and what I do.
Fourth and finally a very important point jim brought up. I will always be young enough to know that I will never be a Jedi, I thank all my teachers.
 
jimbizzzale67123

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And FYI my one plant had around 40 tops some were just a few grams but other were 14g anyways I got over 10 ounces off of one plant my first go at hydro with a 400w light. I expect even more next time, I thinks its hysterical you say 14g is great but your ideal nugs are 7-10g I mean what are you trying to say you dont like popcorn buds, but you also dont like monster buds. Its nice you have an idea of what your doing but your just trying to showoff and im not impressed.
 
jimbizzzale67123

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greentiger.sd said:
First forgot my shout out to uk420.
Second, Daniel, send me your P.O. box, honestly, I use to feel the same way, but let me smoke you out. I haven't even touched on my sweets yet in the forums, yay!
Third, Jim have you read anything?? watch food matters, your doctors lie to you. I would give you my practitioners license number on here, but hello suicide. Food Matters, is the easiest way for me to explain what I'm talking about with the least amount of time. I would suggest slowing down, I didn't say you're giving out completely wrong advice. We are in two situations and even complimented you bro. I did say some people to give out shit though. I really don't mind answering any questions you have, but you are making a lot of assumptions about me and what I do.
Fourth and finally a very important point jim brought up. I will always be young enough to know that I will never be a Jedi, I thank all my teachers.
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I had a tonsillectomy Wednesday, and you are telling me to vaporize. IF my throat starts to bleed I have to go to the hospital tonsillectomy is not a simple surgery especially when you are an adult.

I dont think food matters right now.

Why should I slow down, I didnt even know I was speeding up WTF exactly are you talking about. I come here to follow frogster and legally you showed up late to the party and started lecturing everyone about LST.




Im not even giving out advise you are, and we all know what were doing in this thread.
 
greentiger.sd

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yes basically, most clubs out here are going to break those fat buds down and the stems do start to add up, and they'll start bitching at you about stem weight etc. everyone can grow huge tops, like i've said before you're in a different situation. I believe no matter what anyone is doing they should be at the very least pulling .5g/watt and you definitely doing that so like I said, nice buds, take a compliment and smoke one.
 
jimbizzzale67123

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[video=youtube;g-m61Q_ARRo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-m61Q_ARRo[/video]

Yes vaporizing after this kind of a surgery is probably a great Idea.
 
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