SCROG OFF!! New school vs old school. Sealed rooms- 12 plants.

Wait Jim,, its all shade!! lol,, going to confuse the shit out of the guy... the lower part of the floor under the scrog is "ALL" shade...

frogster said:

but Jim your trophy award and this comment "damn froggy did bail, thats why you dont talk shit unless you can back it up." leads me to believe that you are a a secret closet fan of Legals... Its ok,, come out of the closet Jim... we are very accepting here...

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I think we are both waiting for those SCROG photos. Captain g/w.

legallyflying said:

I think we are both waiting for those SCROG photos. Captain g/w.

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we all are legal!!

frogster said:

Wait Jim,, its all shade!! lol,, going to confuse the shit out of the guy... the lower part of the floor under the scrog is "ALL" shade...

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No I said there is no shade, you know when trees grow straight up and down they make lots of shade.

I thought it made complete sense.

frogster said:

but Jim your trophy award and this comment "damn froggy did bail, thats why you dont talk shit unless you can back it up." leads me to believe that you are a a secret closet fan of Legals... Its ok,, come out of the closet Jim... we are very accepting here...

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Im not secret fan, I grow too so I just know whats up. Especially since I used to grow in dirt and wont ever go back.

Ok,, heres a futile attempt at a shot,,,it really doesn't tell much,, the buds are getting bigger everyday now,,, its like they woke up! in one pic is a tied down bud,,, if you look close at that bud, you can see the hairs that are still growing... I would say that buds about13-16"

thanks for the help guys,i didnt get to confused.just realized soil is for worms, bugs and dead people. and if you want to scrogg hydro is a better solution rite.

sorry boys, I think I got you all beat. by the way why don't you guys LST more, grab a little bush master and toss the lame screens and stakes. If you do everything correctly you shouldn't need a screen or stakes. I know a lot of people might not agree with me here but check out what I'm talking about below, let me know if you got any questions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2VKwaVUgds

Its a person decision... they both have advantages I suppose... hydro can be optimized better for extreme growers,, ie co2,max on the edge nute ppm , ,,, just gives more control. especially if you dial a specific strain after a few grows... every strain will like something a little different... "in general" hydro will produce bigger , plants faster than soil,,, but there are some soil guys that have things dialed in and produce very , very top shelf MMJ. (riddleme, daniels and many more on this site) But ignore the ignorant views that organic, etc is better flavor&safer, yadda-yadda.... plants require nutes (chemicals),,, and dont care if nitrogen comes from bat shit or a bottle... I see you started a journal, I will check it out... ask anything here, were easy... Legal just has a running kinda Joke thingy with dirt farmers who are ignorant ( ignorant=not knowing what the hell they are saying and are indignant about soil) so, welcome...

Holy shit Green T... can you stand in the middle of those and knock a few off with a Golf club into my mouth from across the room,,, those tops are freaking cool as shit looking... I was lazy&inexperienced about my lst technique on the screen... I know I should have put more effort in getting things even... also my light over my scrog is not enough, especially at the ends.... but, its my first, and they live, so Im not going to be too hard on myself... how about posting a few still pic shots on tyhe thread and a rundown of your system... your buds are a worthy contender to strip Legal of that TROPHY!! lol.. but be warned , you may be required to "pass the scissors" for confirmation of your abilities..

I dont know GT... they are tight, and are very pretty,, but Legals may outweigh those... lets hear a rundown on your setup( and I pray they are not soil..lol) lights, nutes, vegg time... strain,, co2? amount of plants and the area size?

and as stated earlier every type of competition has 3 judges,,, i think a web judging is in order for this lol

I'm not trying to diss frog, but they didn't look that tight to me? I think it would be a light intensity thing.

I agree Legal.. they are awesome, but they look like more light than yours.. and difficult to grasp tyhe size of the entire cola as they are hidden below... they seem more like a sog on steroids... thats why I asked for more specifics about his set up... i didnt mind him posting here, as I would like to see his results from his setup, but he does seem to be tooting his little horn with pics of these ladies around the forum in every post.. lol.. ( I almost cant blame him) BTW, check your pm,,,

Newstrain, if you take that God awful pic down from your signature so I don't cringe&almost puke every time I read your post, I will confer to the powers that be about your desires...Pictures on this forum are for the beauty of the plants and that pic makes me dodge my screen, feeling like I will get saturated by flying puss from those pimples.... yuck!

Ahh,heres a pic of him.. I see why he's tooting a little much on the forums .. Hes a " professional medical cannabis consulting guy" a collective in L.A and trying to be stealthy about it by posting...so, more than likely , these videos are of his "friends" grow room, or one of collective growers! .. lol.. Come back G.T ... your being called out... Let the fresh SMACK Talk begin! Jimbzz, doesn't take kind to smack talking and starting something you cant finish

frogster said:

Newstrain, if you take that God awful pic down from your signature so I don't cringe&almost puke every time I read your post, I will confer to the powers that be about your desires...Pictures on this forum are for the beauty of the plants and that pic makes me dodge my screen, feeling like I will get saturated by flying puss from those pimples.... yuck!

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I agree that picture gives me the creeps, every time I see it im like methhead.

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Ahh,heres a pic of him.. I see why he's tooting a little much on the forums .. Hes a " professional medical cannabis consulting guy" a collective in L.A and trying to be stealthy about it by posting...so, more than likely , these videos are of his "friends" grow room, or one of collective growers! .. lol.. Come back G.T ... your being called out... Let the fresh SMACK Talk begin! Jimbzz, doesn't take kind to smack talking and starting something you cant finish

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I wasn't impressed by his grow looks like a out break of botrytis waiting to happen. I would get some more fans in there stat or at least give them a little breathing room.


Your growing bud not sneaking Mexicans over the border in a RV closet.

Hey Frogster, You came through with some shots. Nice man.
Yea I agree, a little more even canopy and a bit more lighting and that setup will rock.

I'm a novice grower, couple years indoor hydro with small scrogs. Picked up quite a bit here. Funny how you guys talk about soil grows, I recently went from hydro to soil when I built a small green house and I love it. I got a cabinet full of hydro nutes still, that sucks. But I'm getting more weight with soil.

Wow, you guys are fast haha. frog, that's really awesome for a first round you should be proud for sure.
But lets all back off a bit here's a short story and my horn totting: ) ok so I will definitely provide pics of dried beauties when my current batch is done. I apologize I don't have dry pics up at the moment or complete journals of crops as I came on to this forum before fully documenting a full round of anything I've been apart of or done myself. I grew up on being told never to document certain things so I post only what I feel comfortable with.
Thus all videos/pics I will ever post are of a small area that includes vegging and flower. Believe it or not unless otherwise posted all flowering pics and videos are in one tent under one 1000, yes you read that right. It's a 4x8 with a raptor, great for the particular situation. This beautiful 1000 tent has been popping .5g to 1g per watt depending on the strain which have been, Jack Flash, G13, White Rhino, Lemon Kush, GDP, and Platinum Bubba.
This area is basically used for genetic testing to understand what the strain likes, if I like the strain, and then determining if I'll keep them and use them later breeding or productions. I would suggest everyone to consider having this type of test area if space is available and production/breeding is your game. This is also why you'll probably only see Grodan blacks and slabs from me as well.
I don't know if i really answered everything, there were a lot of comments. Oh, yea, LST, topping, and bushmaster, specifically for an even canopy. hit up my journal to learn more info about where i'm coming from. honestly i made an account because i'm tired of reading the BS, sometimes I think people are telling others the wrong stuff on purpose and although there are many ways of doing stuff, I'm sure you guys agree with me about some stuff. Anyways I'm starting to work on a detailed LST video/pic/log and will start to journal it soon.
ALWAYS look for pic/video references everyone, then decide what you what you're plants to look like.
Let me know if I missed anything, wait, you guys totally will, what am I thinking...
With green love for you all,
kat; )