Scotch Whisky / Bourbon Whiskey thread

irish grower

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paddy powers whiskey,or the infamis irish putcheen,funny fact both time i drank it,i woke up in the wild bushes,the first time in the bushs 7 miles from home,second time same thing woke up in bush 8 miles from home in the opposite direction from the first thorn bush,i went straight into the neatest pub and got drunk again,except this time i got a taxi home,putcheen wipes the brain man proud to be irish
 

BarnBuster

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saw this in a feed today, thought you might enjoy it from "The Whiskey Jug"

This Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint is incredibly interesting for several reasons.
  1. It was distilled by Arthur Ph. Stitzel and pre-dates the famed Stitzel-Weller distillery.
  2. Arthur Ph. Stitzel was one of the few “medicinal whiskey” distillers during prohibition.
  3. The label doesn’t mention S.C. Herbst who started the Old Fitzgerald brand before prohibition so it was completely post acquisition.
  4. The actual Stitzel-Weller distillery didn’t open until 1935 so any Old Fitz from before 1939 was distilled at A. Ph. Stitzel. – even if it carries the Stitzel-Weller name.
Whiskey like this is always interesting to try because it’s a glimpse into history, a taste of the past and a notion of what was happening in America around this time. This is the legal stuff people were drinking to calm their nerves and get to sleep at night after a long day working or looking for work. So sit back, relax, and lets dive into this Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint review and see what it was like to drink in the 1930s.

Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint Info
Region: Kentucky, USA

Distiller: A. PH Stitzel
Mashbill: At least 51% corn
Cask: New-Charred Oak
Age: 17 years (1916 – 1933)
ABV: 50%

Price: NA – Auction, private seller or specialty store

Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint Review
EYE
Caramel

NOSE
Stale candy, musty room, over-ripe citrus, astringent wood and stale spice. A wonderful aroma this is not.

PALATE
Astringent oak, burnt caramel, cardboard, stale spice and citric acid. Yeah this sucks. It’s just out and out not good.

FINISH
Short drop of char, stale spice, stale candy and cardboard.

BALANCE, BODY & FEEL
Not balanced, medium body and a heavy feel.

OVERALL
Miserable. This 1933 Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint is absolutely miserable. It’s seriously among some of the worst bourbon I’ve ever had, but when beggars can’t be choosers this is what they would drink. I don’t know if this is what all Old Fitz Med Pints tasted like back then, but there are some reasons why this whiskey is so bad.

There was a cardboard note in there that often comes from corked liquids so that’s a potential, but remote, possibility. The leaching from the glass could have been excessive. Or it could just be that it’s bad and is what all Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pints tasted like. It’s hard to say but one thing is for sure, it’s not an experience I want to repeat again any time soon.

SCORE: 70-72/100 (C-, not consumed at home)


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zeddd

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No not tried it but sounds good, I'm on the glenmorangie original tonight some good malty spice dried orange peel and ginger, good staple imo. What's everyone on tonight then?
 

SunnyJim

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No not tried it but sounds good, I'm on the glenmorangie original tonight some good malty spice dried orange peel and ginger, good staple imo. What's everyone on tonight then?
Glenmorangie is a great 'everydayer', although a little tame for my taste these days. They do pretty good cask finishes too, the Port Cask Finish being the pick of the bunch, imo.

My next bottle will probably be a Lagavulin of some description. Maybe on Sunday. Might start a Scotch Sunday or Malt Monday drinking club. Current Members: SJ.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
saw this in a feed today, thought you might enjoy it from "The Whiskey Jug"

This Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint is incredibly interesting for several reasons.
  1. It was distilled by Arthur Ph. Stitzel and pre-dates the famed Stitzel-Weller distillery.
  2. Arthur Ph. Stitzel was one of the few “medicinal whiskey” distillers during prohibition.
  3. The label doesn’t mention S.C. Herbst who started the Old Fitzgerald brand before prohibition so it was completely post acquisition.
  4. The actual Stitzel-Weller distillery didn’t open until 1935 so any Old Fitz from before 1939 was distilled at A. Ph. Stitzel. – even if it carries the Stitzel-Weller name.
Whiskey like this is always interesting to try because it’s a glimpse into history, a taste of the past and a notion of what was happening in America around this time. This is the legal stuff people were drinking to calm their nerves and get to sleep at night after a long day working or looking for work. So sit back, relax, and lets dive into this Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint review and see what it was like to drink in the 1930s.

Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint Info
Region: Kentucky, USA

Distiller: A. PH Stitzel
Mashbill: At least 51% corn
Cask: New-Charred Oak
Age: 17 years (1916 – 1933)
ABV: 50%

Price: NA – Auction, private seller or specialty store

Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint Review
EYE
Caramel

NOSE
Stale candy, musty room, over-ripe citrus, astringent wood and stale spice. A wonderful aroma this is not.

PALATE
Astringent oak, burnt caramel, cardboard, stale spice and citric acid. Yeah this sucks. It’s just out and out not good.

FINISH
Short drop of char, stale spice, stale candy and cardboard.

BALANCE, BODY & FEEL
Not balanced, medium body and a heavy feel.

OVERALL
Miserable. This 1933 Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pint is absolutely miserable. It’s seriously among some of the worst bourbon I’ve ever had, but when beggars can’t be choosers this is what they would drink. I don’t know if this is what all Old Fitz Med Pints tasted like back then, but there are some reasons why this whiskey is so bad.

There was a cardboard note in there that often comes from corked liquids so that’s a potential, but remote, possibility. The leaching from the glass could have been excessive. Or it could just be that it’s bad and is what all Old Fitzgerald Medicinal Pints tasted like. It’s hard to say but one thing is for sure, it’s not an experience I want to repeat again any time soon.

SCORE: 70-72/100 (C-, not consumed at home)


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Ooooooh. My buddy Joe Danno at Bucket O Suds used to have several cases of Very Very Old Fitz. So good.

We miss you Joe. Regards to your sister.
 

zeddd

Well-Known Member
Glenmorangie is a great 'everydayer', although a little tame for my taste these days. They do pretty good cask finishes too, the Port Cask Finish being the pick of the bunch, imo.

My next bottle will probably be a Lagavulin of some description. Maybe on Sunday. Might start a Scotch Sunday or Malt Monday drinking club. Current Members: SJ.
The lagavulin 16 is good with char grilled veal cutlet, malt Monday sounds good man
 

BarnBuster

Virtually Unknown Member
I saw this in a blog just now. It always seemed a little sad to me, saving empties, but then WTF do I know...

Some Bottles Go To Heaven. Others Don’t.
In Banter by Jeffrey Schwartz October 19, 2016


You’ve poured yourself that last little bit of whiskey from the bottle. Now that you’ve savored that final drop, the empty bottle is standing on the table next to you. What do you do with it? Most people might look at the empty bottle and toss it in the trash. Wait a minute; you’re a responsible citizen. You don’t just throw it in the trash; you put it in the recyclable bin, right?

Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock, you know whiskey is enjoying a huge resurgence and boom, particularly with American whiskeys. Big-name labels that sat on the shelves forever just a couple years ago are now almost impossible to find. There’s an extensive gray market out there to “assist” in the redistribution of wealth – meaning, some areas of the country see a larger number of these precious bottles and others won’t receive much, if anything, at all.

Try to find Elmer T. Lee, Old Weller, or a handful of other labels, and you’ll walk away from the store disappointed. Want BTAC or Pappy? Give me a minute to stop laughing. Go online, though, and you’ll see a lot of people offering to trade or sell these bottles.

This brings me back to your empty bottle. There are bad people out there who make a big business selling counterfeit whiskey, whether that’s Scotch, Bourbon, Rye or whatever. It all starts with your empty of what was once bottled liquid sunshine. Those bad people I mentioned then go online searching for the necessary components to “rebuild” that bottle. For example, this is from a very cursory eBay search just as I’m writing this:


Now, if you look at those and think to yourself, “That’s $128, nobody is going to invest that,” prepare to be shocked. Pick up these components and a few others, pour some caramel-colored water inside, and you can then, according to a quick search at Bottlespot.com, sell one bottle of Pappy Van Winkle for $1200 (or more).

If you think you’re smart enough to recognize a counterfeit, hopefully, you’re also smart enough to know exactly what to look for. Most people don’t discover they’ve been had until they pop the cork because the counterfeiters are that good.

Keep in mind; I’m not suggesting the only reason people would buy these components is to “create” and sell counterfeit high-dollar Bourbon. But, like identity thieves, whiskey thieves are searching recycle bins and the Internet for your old bottles.

Assuming you don’t want to contribute to criminal behavior, a few options come to mind that involve reclaiming the bottles.

If you’re crafty, some people make lamps from their bottles. This is something I’ve considered doing with my empty Willett Pot Still bottles, which are pieces of artwork by themselves. You can go online and pull up YouTube videos that show how to create drinkware or vases from empty bottles. You can spice up your evening by taking some taper candles and simply sticking them in the neck. After all, what spouse wouldn’t find that romantic?

You could set the empty on the top shelf of your bar, and reminisce of those moments you shared together.

Finally, you can bring out your inner John Wayne, find yourself a fence post, stick the empty on it and use it for target practice.
 
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