Science Over Faith?

BOOM WHOMP

BOOM WHOMP

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i never really start threads on this forum but i figured i could stir up the pot. I grew up in jesuit schools all my life and i had many biology teachers that supported the big bang theory over the creation story which was always confusing because i also had theology classes with priests that belived the creation story. i find now in my young adulthood that i belive in the big bang theory based on evolution and basically darwinism as a whole. I would like to hear some other peoples thoughts on the subject. I realize it's a touchy subject but its just a question.
 
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What's the question? A lot of scientists are religious. The great majority of doctors believe in an afterlife. The two are not mutually exclusive. The young and angry with their axes to grind often think they are, but as in so many areas they are wrong. Only people who get their world view from Dan Brown believe science and religion are at war.
 
BOOM WHOMP

BOOM WHOMP

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Illegal Smile said:
What's the question? A lot of scientists are religious. The great majority of doctors believe in an afterlife. The two are not mutually exclusive. The young and angry with their axes to grind often think they are, but as in so many areas they are wrong. Only people who get their world view from Dan Brown believe science and religion are at war.
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the question is big bag theory or creation story.
 
TeaTreeOil

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It was like, 14 billion years ago(rounded), who really cares? It's ancient history.

Pretty much all religions promote the notion of life after death. Because idiots will believe they'll be rewarded for something(faith, for instance) after they're dead. Then the notion of hell came along, and that was just brilliant. Now you no longer need a reward for something, you have the fear of eternal damnation for a finite amount of 'evil doings'. Logical? No. Just? Definitely not. Compelling if you have the education of a nitwit? Apparently.

Statistics show "stupid people" are most religious, that's just a fact. I don't mean to insult anyone. I really don't care what fantasies you believe. Just keep the dogma away from me.
 
user6079

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science is a kind of faith. have you ever seen a black hole? what makes you so sure they exist? because the scientists said so, a lot like priests say so and people believe them. they may have math, but to most people complex math is so far out that it might as well be like insisting god works in mysterious ways. most religion is just bad attempts at science, but instead of dividing theory from fact anytime they can't figure something out they fill in the blanks with a god. why is electricity not magic? because we can explain how it works? does that really disqualify it from being magic? untill you somehow evolve into omnipotence you have no choice but to believe what someone tells you,whom you choose to believe is faith.
 
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BOOM WHOMP said:
the question is big bag theory or creation story.
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In the first place there is no relationship between the big bang and creationism, the latter being about life on earth and the former about the formation of the universe. Arguing about science vs religion misses the point. It's like arguing logic vs emotion, both are a part of human nature.
 
sempre verde

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Of course I had to throw something out too. this is too good.

Is it ok to use the big bang on my clones cause I really want to maximize my yield. And I ve been looking for creationist grow guides everywhere and cant find 'em anywhere. You see I thought growing pot would be the ultimate in psychoticly wasting my time but NOOOOO it had to be rewarding and fun and I learned alot and met alot of people like me soooo Ive been looking for another way to waste my consciouncess. And I found it ...................
how did we get here????? uh......uh........
BIg Bang? or uh some dude that looks like forest gump did it?

ok enough. Im with tee tree oil. These questions are a waste of your life and mind.

But let me play and ask "What is the value of knowing the origin of life? I mean what could you possible learn to make your life different today?

To quote a tibetian buddhist concept.
"Nothing originates from itself" there is only inter-dependant origination.

ps I hope adding that question didnt fuck up your thread.
 
BOOM WHOMP

BOOM WHOMP

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sempre verde said:
Of course I had to throw something out too. this is too good.

Is it ok to use the big bang on my clones cause I really want to maximize my yield. And I ve been looking for creationist grow guides everywhere and cant find 'em anywhere. You see I thought growing pot would be the ultimate in psychoticly wasting my time but NOOOOO it had to be rewarding and fun and I learned alot and met alot of people like me soooo Ive been looking for another way to waste my consciouncess. And I found it ...................
how did we get here????? uh......uh........
BIg Bang? or uh some dude that looks like forest gump did it?

ok enough. Im with tee tree oil. These questions are a waste of your life and mind.

But let me play and ask "What is the value of knowing the origin of life? I mean what could you possible learn to make your life different today?

To quote a tibetian buddhist concept.
"Nothing originates from itself" there is only inter-dependant origination.

ps I hope adding that question didnt fuck up your thread.
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no worries man, all in good fun. Was bored and wanted to see people get intense about things nobody knows and I think it was a success. be well.
 
Green Cross

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user6079 said:
science is a kind of faith. have you ever seen a black hole? what makes you so sure they exist? because the scientists said so, a lot like priests say so and people believe them. they may have math, but to most people complex math is so far out that it might as well be like insisting god works in mysterious ways. most religion is just bad attempts at science, but instead of dividing theory from fact anytime they can't figure something out they fill in the blanks with a god. why is electricity not magic? because we can explain how it works? does that really disqualify it from being magic? untill you somehow evolve into omnipotence you have no choice but to believe what someone tells you,whom you choose to believe is faith.
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If science had more answers maybe I could put more faith in it.
 
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BoXofStankay

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I think the big bang theory is more or less correct. Then aliens [that WE now look like] came and spliced their DNA with a chimp, or some type of monkey. Thus the missing link. And we mistook these aliens technology for Magic and Glory and mysterious almighty powers. Like if the anchient egypt people saw us today, they'd probably think we were gods.

Just my .02. Theres a LOT more to this, but i dont want to bore you. But its what ive come to believe so far...and yes, I do thnk they are linked to the 2012 mystery.
 
CrackerJax

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BOOM WHOMP said:
i never really start threads on this forum but i figured i could stir up the pot. I grew up in jesuit schools all my life and i had many biology teachers that supported the big bang theory over the creation story which was always confusing because i also had theology classes with priests that belived the creation story. i find now in my young adulthood that i belive in the big bang theory based on evolution and basically darwinism as a whole. I would like to hear some other peoples thoughts on the subject. I realize it's a touchy subject but its just a question.
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The Jesuits and Lutherans and a few others are skeptical of the myths in the Bible and would rather they not be there at all. These sects are quite aware that the stories make no sense and only harm the kernel of the version of the Bible they find solace in.

But like an onion....there are many layers of Christianity..... they have no unified truth.
 
fish601

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CrackerJax said:
The Jesuits and Lutherans and a few others are skeptical of the myths in the Bible and would rather they not be there at all. These sects are quite aware that the stories make no sense and only harm the kernel of the version of the Bible they find solace in.

But like an onion....there are many layers of Christianity..... they have no unified truth.
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you call them myths i call them God showing he is the true god able to controll the universe that he created
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Calling an antique book filled with allegorical and conflicting stories and messages the word of G*D is naive at best...... brainwashing at worst.
 
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