Sannie's SugarPunch

I have a 95' ZR1 Corvette that outruns Lambo's + never had a problem with it.
Wish I could say the same for my BMW 650!


Breeder's could easily mention the high ratio of males in the description, so you would know that 1pk of seeds isn't enough.

Test grows are a great way to determine these things, but most breeder's don't.

st0wandgrow said:

I thought you took all of your SP phenols to the 9'ish week mark?

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Nope. The fast pheno is good at the 7-8 week mark. Most phenos were 9-10 weeks and the SSH was significantly longer flowering but still good at 10. It's better if you go longer though.

kindnug said:

I have a 95' ZR1 Corvette that outruns Lambo's + never had a problem with it.
Wish I could say the same for my BMW 650!


Breeder's could easily mention the high ratio of males in the description, so you would know that 1pk of seeds isn't enough.

Test grows are a great way to determine these things, but most breeder's don't.

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Getting 4/4 males isn't that unlikely. 1/16 chance. This is just luck and has nothing to do with the breeder. My guess is Dynasty would happily replace the beans if they ended up a huge % of males. And all gear on Sannies shop is tested unless they are freebies which sometimes are not.

As far as rory insisting his plants are fed correctly, well... if he wants to insist that, I guess that's fine, but it's pretty obvious to my own two eyes they are not being fed correctly and it's leaning towards the over.

Seeing as how I overfed mine the first time I ran them (with chemicals) and it was easy to do, I'm not surprised. But if people want to insist they are perfect, well, there is no helping them.

Did I mention the health of his plants?
4 plants, just luck of the draw. I was referring to 10+ plants.

I meant in general, not Sannies or Sugar Punch.
You don't have to be so defensive...

OGEvilgenius said:

Nope. The fast pheno is good at the 7-8 week mark. Most phenos were 9-10 weeks and the SSH was significantly longer flowering but still good at 10. It's better if you go longer though.

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Good to know. I swore when I read your smoke report they were all taken around 9 weeks or sooner. Knowing this I feel better about the prospects of these two. They are both nearly identical plants, and I'm thinking they are SSH phenos.

When do the trichomes start to fill in on your SSH pheno?

kindnug said:

Did I mention the health of his plants?
4 plants, just luck of the draw. I was referring to 10+ plants.

I meant in general, not Sannies or Sugar Punch.
You don't have to be so defensive...

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I'm not being defensive. I'm stating facts. I didn't feel like quoting his long post to save space. He's complaining about 4 beans ending up male. It happens. Not that often, but often enough. The rest of his complaints look to be at least partly his own fault.

st0wandgrow said:

Good to know. I swore when I read your smoke report they were all taken around 9 weeks or sooner. Knowing this I feel better about the prospects of these two. They are both nearly identical plants, and I'm thinking they are SSH phenos.

When do the trichomes start to fill in on your SSH pheno?

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I only had one phenotype that had a lot of trichromes on fans. The SSH really starts to get frosty in the last few weeks. Almost exclusively on the bud and some on the stem.

OGEvilgenius said:

I only had one phenotype that had a lot of trichromes on fans. The SSH really starts to get frosty in the last few weeks. Almost exclusively on the bud and some on the stem.

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Right on. Day 43 of flower today so I might only be half way home on these. I was getting a little concerned thinking these would be done in 9 weeks.

OGEvilgenius said:

I'm not being defensive. I'm stating facts. I didn't feel like quoting his long post to save space. He's complaining about 4 beans ending up male. It happens. Not that often, but often enough. The rest of his complaints look to be at least partly his own fault.

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I agree. They look ill.....but then he's saying his opinion is it's the fault of the beans. I dunno.
The one complaint I don't have w/ the Sannies strains I've ran is the vitality and vigor. I didn't care for most of the smoke, but n/p with the runs.

my shits fine with me
and no insisted they were perfect bro...seems thats your quest in this discussion of opinion...its all good,it dont suit me so far,but thats my opinion..maybe the bud will change my mind..till then ill just keep on my path,its fine for me..
ill try harder for you tho!

Amos Otis said:

I agree. They look ill.....but then he's saying his opinion is it's the fault of the beans. I dunno.
The one complaint I don't have w/ the Sannies strains I've ran is the vitality and vigor. I didn't care for most of the smoke, but n/p with the runs.

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im not saying its the fault of anything..i see it as i got some ok specimens..crack one bean or a thousand and you get some good or bad bud/plants..im not here to discuss my garden in anyones eyes..its got some faults like most,but i do.ok..this thread isnt about my garden,im talking about s.p. and sannies..i veer off to other strains ocassionaly in my posts to keep myself interested since the s.p. hasnt done much...i see a few pics arent perfect as i supposedly claim to be,but i dont care.im here to share my experience w s.p.,and compared to anything i have,its lackluster..sorry if thats opposite of what others feel,but its what happened..im getting ready to harvest plants twice the size of s.p.,and THESE PLANTS ARE CLONES!!.s.p. is soo far behind the only reason i didnt scrap it in the beginning is this thread and my curiosity.sorry if i have my opinion,but i feel im being scruitinized and critiqued because my opinion isnt the same as others..i have 120 plants plus clones at any given time..if a plant cant handle what i throw at it,fine,buts so many others do,and well,i dont have time for prima donnas in my garden..perhaps my opinion will change..time will tell..ill comtemplate this over a bowl of something i can smoke,not look at...

heck your girls look alot better than mine , lol,, i dont care if im dialed in or not i get my bud . i dont sell any or give any away, except to my family and close friends and if they bitch how my weed taste or looks ... well guess what they can kiss my ass and dont plan on gettting any more .lol... but nice looking buds you have there rory....

hey thanks bro.

I'm trying to find some information on light cycles SP likes in flower. I usually go 12/12 but I was curious if there are known cycles she likes? I've got a SP been vegging for 5 weeks and she ready to flip and figured I'd look into this before I just go 12/12.

Really just curious if I should go 14/10 for the first week and then 12/12 the rest of flower?

What light cycles are you guys flowering SP with and which pheno is it? I've got 2 SP growing right now and 1 is a sativa pheno the other is indica, I'll probably stick with 12/12 for the indica pheno, but the sativa pheno I think I can play with the light cycle a bit?

Any advice/help is greatly appreciated.

Has anyone ran blue santa x c99 freebies lately? I had 2 of 5 sprout and they are both super runts.

Sugar Punch and Chuky's Bride are vegging vigorously.

wish mine was doing what yours is..i asked (well my wife did) for the blue santa freebies,but i got the mad scientist giveaway...3rd time my freebies have out preformed my purchase!..not just w sannies tho...my purple haze freebie is still rockin 3yrs later!

KeizerSoze said:

undercovergrow... Are you ok?

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yes! thanks. surgery was a success, just getting used to this new small head. it's amazing what surgeons can do nowadays!!

your sugar punch looks GREAT! very nice job. they make my sp look like a weed indeed! need to catch up with this thread and then i'll post some pics.

so i know this is a sannie's thread for sugar punch, but i just gotta say: the eskobar chocolate rain smells awesome!! hope she smokes as good. liked the DNA chocolope kush enough that i have another running along with the chocolate rain, but about two weeks behind. both smell great to me. first run of the CK--had it smoked up in a week!! (didn't get a lot off of her, it was a small plant.)

my sugar punch has basically no smell to her! since i am feeling better now, i will get pics up either tomorrow or the weekend. i know my last post before my surgery i said i would, but there were so many last minute things to get done before, and i ran out of time. sorry. though no one is missing anything because she is still super small and, well...you'll see. unfortunately. i'm just having a hard time with her.

i'm actually out of smoke! i took the top cola of a tga space bomb that is about four to seven days away from being done, and thankfully there was not any pine haze taste to it-so i am happy to have something to smoke. getting the timing down on this is kinda hard! i was hoping to not experience being out ever again! i don't know if i am not counting enough time for veg (from seed) or what...but it doesn't sound hard to time it right to have some girls going in and some girls coming out, but it is--or maybe i'm just smoking too much?

gonna finish catching up on some threads here on RIU and get to bed.

Maphyr said:

I'm trying to find some information on light cycles SP likes in flower. I usually go 12/12 but I was curious if there are known cycles she likes? I've got a SP been vegging for 5 weeks and she ready to flip and figured I'd look into this before I just go 12/12.

Really just curious if I should go 14/10 for the first week and then 12/12 the rest of flower?

What light cycles are you guys flowering SP with and which pheno is it? I've got 2 SP growing right now and 1 is a sativa pheno the other is indica, I'll probably stick with 12/12 for the indica pheno, but the sativa pheno I think I can play with the light cycle a bit?

Any advice/help is greatly appreciated.

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Stick with 12/12. It's what I did.

here is the sugar punch runt:

she is about 12 inches tall total. 1-gallon air-pot. managed to overfeed her too, but she is hanging in there. she is about two weeks at most from being chopped.

as mentioned before, she is seeded up! did a little pollen chuckin' with her. apparently too much-when i checked on her today, found 11 seeds in her with a lot more still maturing, so here's hoping i like her! she is crossed with an unknown male (possibilities include: TGA-Cheese Quake; Dynasty-Caramel Candy Kush; or Bodhi-Sunshine Daydream or Blood Orange).

won't be popping them anytime soon. the surgery was such a success, and pain has been dramatically reduced, i'm letting the girls in flower finish up and then i'm going to quit growing for a while. by then, it'll be a whole year of doing this and it is always something i've wanted to do! crossed off bucket list. but definitely taking a break from it so not tied down to the grow since i'm not stuck in the house with chronic pain!! plus, since i was using it for pain management, and don't need anywhere near what i needed before, what's coming out should last a lot longer. (i hope!)