Salvia: An Awakening

Okay, so this is essentially part one of a two part “journey”/”trip” whatever you want to call it, on not just salvia, but experience, and life, and people and thoughts and events and music and everything. I Used Salvia to get there, but She was only my guide into a place where I could appreciate life in a beautiful and introspective nature. It is difficult to write a little bit, so please excuse me, I am, in fact, still ‘rolling’ pretttty hard right now. Hehe, anyhow, I’d say that Cannabis mixed in has a good deal to do with how I feel right now, too, for those of you researching doing the substances together (holla at me, ask anything my name is Dankesthours182) but the overbearing influencer in this ‘journey’ of the past minutes (salvia, cannabis, recently), of the past weeks (tons of salvia, sleep deprivation[a powerful ‘drug’ in its own right, as DMT can seep into the waking mind] and cannabis (I always smoke a lot, my back is kinda bad, so it helps the head and the body), even the past few years, when I first experimented with Salvia Divinorum, growing and using strong extracts, 20x+. So basically, that run on sentence said that I grew and smoked salvia, strong stuff, a few years ago and it started my journey, along with various literature, Hunter S. Thompson (another powerful drug in his own right), Thoreau, Etc. Along those lines I’ve ended up in jail for pot twice, and getting in a fight with some guy who ripped me off on acid, so while I have become a victim of this drug war, I thrive on the knowledge I’ve gained.

Now, for those of you who wanted a quick summary of what salvia is all about, as a “drug”, a “hallucinogen”, and a very useful Shamanic Tool, I will say that, for me, she has truly been a beautiful and wonderful teacher, showing me all the right aspects of life, catering to my current needs, changing and evolving as an experience with me, and cultivating my mind to a place it , I truly feel, could not have gotten solely on a few good people I knew who helped me a lot also. In other words, she really captivated me the right ways, making me have a very immature and silly trip to get me interested in the ‘fourth dimension’, ‘third eye’, and then progressing with my Psychedelic tastes as I grew as a person, where I can now quite begin to understand and control how I ‘trip’ on her, and have either insanely crazy (smoking a bit more) or more refined, subtle trips (a little less, mixed with smoking cannabis before and after the experience begins and ends (smoking less than a gram over the course of 20 minutes, for you picky types). Anyhow, weed really subtles it down ,so to say, I guess. But straight salvia extract makes me become an integral part of a pattern composed in front of me of exactly half of the room/surroundings. I have had this happen multiple times, I have quite well believed I was a clear thinking inanimate object, but never truly “lost my ego”. I await ego loss with hope and lust, but I do not wish to rush my mind to places it need not yet be. Anyhow, kids, if you’re just trying to get a good honest word about the Lady Sage of Wisdom, you’re done, you can go. For the rest of you, those I may have intrigued already, or those who truly just want to connect and find out more, please, read on. Email me, I’ll answer your questions to best of my simple abilities. I would like to think I am beginning a Psychonautic journey, of sorts, and anyone who wants to open up their mind and soul to the beauty and tragedy of life with mind enhancing entheogenic substances (those bastards don’t even have the word “entheogenic in their dictionary/spellchecker, but I think I got it right, same with “Psychonautic, so please, don’t think I’m off track ranting, see that the small controls, like not recognizing these terminology as “real words” in their dictionaries and libraries, and FUCKING LANGUAGES [yes, there are books on entheogenics widely published in GERMAN, FRENCH, and SPANISH, but NOT ENGLISH, WE ARE LAGGIN PEOPLE, OPEN YOUR PRETTY BLUE EYES AND GET THE BLEACH BLONDE HAIR OUT OF YOUR FACE!!!! Wow, long parentheses) is welcome to come along. I’ll repeat that sentence for those of you who are too high to read that in three parts (I feel you dudes and babes, I feel you)



I would like to think I am beginning a Psychonautic journey, of sorts, and anyone who wants to open up their mind and soul to the beauty and tragedy of life with mind enhancing entheogenic substances {this is where the old parentheses was} is welcome to come along. Haha, great stuff, I can write again, in my not-so-humble opinion, and quite well. I like this style – fuck dude, this is erowid, not Harvard with their stuffy noses and Capital “H” t’shirts. I’ll write to them how they wanna be written to if I must, but please excuse me if I dare express myself comfortably in the security of my own subject-to-illegal-search-and-seizure mother-fucking home! LOL, any’who, I guess this is part one, the basix, and I’ll continue to get the last of the most recent trip out. Tonight, tripping on weed and salvia, I realized that Salvia has been what I needed her to be every step of the way. She got my head good and straightened out, with the help of good friends and family (you know who you all are). And also, that “it is what it is”; I realized that all that mumbling around by confused seeming hippies really IS what is out there! It makes sense to me now, these simple concepts they all seem to repeat almost religiously. “IT IS WHAT IT IS!”. It isn’t that these people are crazy or dumb or insane or foolish! It simply is because unless you have SEEN with your own mind’s eye what they perceive all the time because of these “awakenings” they have expereinced, you are NEVER GOING TO GET IT, so why should they try to be extremely verbose, talking their lifestyle up to you, making it look relevant? To them, it is fucking relevant, and they know many people exist who are into the same things. They can’t run around trying to bring in converts everywhere they go. They live their lives, they say what they say, and they hope you will someday glimpse that light. There’s no revolutionary beam of sunshine that you cannot see, there simply is logic in the fact that these plants simply mimic chemicals already in our bodies, and therefore, we are all on drugs, and hence all is simply a collective perception of the world, as with a computer’s interface system, the processors and RAM and encoded data processors are working to show you what is happening in the electronic world of the system, and it is also so with the interface between the human senses, the mind, and the world around us. It is a shared reality that is OPTIONAL in some ways. You may change the way you interface with this experience with the “programs” you are running. A mac and PC are both a similar tool, but their operating systems do very different things – are constructed in a fairly different manner. But they still run your computer. All electrical signals, made real only by the screen in front of you and the speakers or headphones in your ears. Hard to really grasp for me, but it is obviously so. Anyhow, these plants, chemical substances, energies, change our interface with the system of reality, and therefore a new reality, for the user, can be born. Hence we have hippies out of touch with the common perception of reality, mumbling about Republicans, Beat Poetry, and Drugs, experiences and Music, mostly rock of some form , or more modernly, techno. Ha! It is all too obvious to them why you are so skeptical, why even bother with you? You’ll either find the way, or you’ll live how you want to, not impacted by the true nuance of Life and Existence and Everything. Just another Brick in the Wall. By the way, Fdd, this is the piece I was writing for you. It is what it is. Worthy? Idk, I like it. I’d like to know if you do.

If your looking for a journey do some research on this http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml

Im sure you will have a much more intense journey compared to salvia.

Do not underestimate salvia, Buddha. Its just that she isn't that responsive to everyone, and quite hostile to most.
It takes a certain amount of dedication to her and her alone... lol there I go, sounding like one of the nuts people again.

Wait till I start throwing some quantum mechaniscs at you, or my agreement that part of conciousness resides outside of the body and we just tap into this.

I feel you though, Dank. and you reflected many of my internal thoughts.
Isn't it awesome to just give over to believeing like a child again?

I also agree on people would not understand until they see/become IT. It is just so foreign to us in the western society today.
Even after some decades of psycedelic usage, I would probably not have been able to imagine what would unfold infront of me in the last two years. I'm not entirely sure I even need the plants anymore, yet at the same time I know their ancient wisdom trumps anything I could come up with. Its not a straight journey, its like migrating through the layers of a psycedelic onion towards the centre.

try shooting an apple off someone's head the next time you blow out a fat hit of salvia.

Shame, what did the apple do?

Hi. It is really nice to hear of your experiences.

That Buddha. said:

Im sure you will have a much more intense journey compared to salvia.

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Does what you say come from any experience with Salvia? I'm not so sure I'd assume so surely as to what will be a "more intense journey" for other people, or even what would be a more worthy journey (all intensities aside...).

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also agree on people would not understand until they see/become IT. It is just so foreign to us in the western society today.
Even after some decades of psycedelic usage, I would probably not have been able to imagine what would unfold infront of me in the last two years. I'm not entirely sure I even need the plants anymore, yet at the same time I know their ancient wisdom trumps anything I could come up with. Its not a straight journey, its like migrating through the layers of a psycedelic onion towards the centre.

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Your comment is well taken by those in the know on such matters. Yet, it is also easy to fail to understand JUST HOW MUCH some people can figure out about reality without the usage of strong, or even mild psychedelics (whatever that distinction is supposed to really mean...), not that you fail to. Many philosophers and theologians of the past have figured out the essence of what these horticultural medicines are trying to teach us in their own way, and they have done so all over the world in many ways (hence the merit of comparative religion and philosophy, since there really is a common core). I myself have joined their ranks, and truly mapped out the most important regions of reality in an accurate way LONG before making ANY breakthroughs with psychedelics, and I found that those breakthroughs pretty much just opened up the empirical reality that I had already accurately deduced (though by no means in the way that I would have imagined, since direct experiences is always "more" than conceptual understanding, however accurate in its own way). So while I agree with you that these substances are quite important (as are many other methods of "altering" ourselves, all medicines of some sort), they do not represent anything close to a panacea, nor an absolutely important ingredient for every single traveler on reality's/life's many roads.

straight salvia extract makes me become an integral part of a pattern composed in front of me of exactly half of the room/surroundings. I have had this happen multiple times, I have quite well believed I was a clear thinking inanimate object

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How did this make you feel emotionally?

It simply is because unless you have SEEN with your own mind’s eye what they perceive all the time because of these “awakenings” they have expereinced, you are NEVER GOING TO GET IT, so why should they try to be extremely verbose, talking their lifestyle up to you, making it look relevant?

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They have their point to make, but it is not completely true. The realities which are revealed by way of psychedelic medicines of the internally administered, concentrated-chemical variety are not the "golden key", but are simply catalysts. You already knew, in some way, everything they helped you remember into a clear form of knowledge. I have demonstrated this time and again, but it is very hard to get the arrogant DMT-heads to recognize this, I think because of the dimness of their intellects. Therefore they have nothing to gauge my view with apparently, having not every realized reality aside from what was tangibly revealed in direct experience, never finding that the intellect was a useful tool because for them it wasn't one, and therefore assuming they learned all they could from the drug of "deep thought", never having administered the right quality of that drug, nor with a sufficient dose, nor over an adequate period of time. I wouldn't deny that this method is helpful, but it's helpfulness is indexed to the work already being done, which is the REAL limiting reagent of transformation. We could discuss that more since you seem able to see this though don't want to say it outright out of fear that the self-righteous drug-heads will accuse you of "stealing their thunder" with more "mundane" medicines like LIFE.

Tonight, tripping on weed and salvia, I realized that Salvia has been what I needed her to be every step of the way. She got my head good and straightened out, with the help of good friends and family (you know who you all are).

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I have a complete theory about how this works. It's really simple (as any good theory should be), and yet becomes more complex as it is related either to the rest of reality or simply more deeply examined in itself. I would like to discuss it with you some time, especially in the light of your experiences which are no doubt ongoing.

Just another Brick in the Wall.

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Did Salvia help you realize how you were somehow letting yourself become another brick in the wall?

Dragon im curious to what your views and usage of psychedelics are. mind sharing?

thank you all for your replies, i am in school and working full time so have had little time to update, and am still living thorough the second part of my trip. it is great, i am actually sober now (certainly not permanently) to get the effect of the w/o drugs part of my mind, and i will report asap. i love you all, thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings. i agree; buddha, do not underestimate Divine Sage, she is an intense teacher, and while i have yet to experience, i am not looking for a journey, i am on one, and dmt will be something i experiment with when i am ready and , lol, recovered. but thanks for your thoughts, they are appreciated. thanks to whoever posted about not underestimating Salvia, she is very intense, very beautiful and has taught me more than i could ever have imagined to learn from anything except true life experience over time. thank you all, and bless your journeys as they are.

I really want to try this stuff, too bad all my friends stick to just pot.

yeah pot is all well and good, but it was simply a stepping stone for me, and now almost a crutch. I don't smoke nearly as much as I used to, but it keeps me even at times, i do it socially to keep vibes in sync, but i really want to see more of the universe... psychedelics.. acid now I've tried once, tooka bit too much, stll a great experience, i look forward to doing it right.. can't wait to try mescaline and DMT.. salvia is my plant teacher though... she comes and goes and is so so beautiful to me.. she has been kind to me . I highly reccomend her. I have tripped wuite a few times on DXM (robotrippin, dexin, whatever) i like the introspect into self and the world aroudn me... mushies 2 or three or 4 times, wish i could get more of them, i'd really like to get heavy into them for a minute.. plan on trying jimson weed when i ahve the time and place... it's a very very VERY dangerous substance, but i'd like to feel on the edge of sanity.... just not ready yet.........

whats jimson weed?

Datura, have some, not for me thanks.