efi2
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I am guessing the guy on the ground was caught using fire , and the guy with the club said fire bad?
Roger Waters victim of Cancel culture???
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cannabineer
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Maybe he tried to join the wrong club
Lucky Luke
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2,133,100 views Nov 18, 2022 #RogerWaters
"Comfortably Numb 2022" by Roger Waters Before lockdown I had been working on a demo of a new version of ‘Comfortably Numb’ as an opener to our new show "This Is Not A Drill”. I pitched it a whole step down, in A Minor, to make it darker and arranged it with no solos, except over the outro, where there is a heartrendingly beautiful vocal solo from one of our new sisters Shanay Johnson.It’s intended as a wakeup call, and a bridge towards a kinder future with more talking to strangers, either in "The Bar” or just “Passing in the Street" and less slaughter “In Some Foreign Field.”Here it is. Love R. The video is by Sean Evans. The mix is by Gus Seyffert.
"Comfortably Numb 2022" by Roger Waters Before lockdown I had been working on a demo of a new version of ‘Comfortably Numb’ as an opener to our new show "This Is Not A Drill”. I pitched it a whole step down, in A Minor, to make it darker and arranged it with no solos, except over the outro, where there is a heartrendingly beautiful vocal solo from one of our new sisters Shanay Johnson.It’s intended as a wakeup call, and a bridge towards a kinder future with more talking to strangers, either in "The Bar” or just “Passing in the Street" and less slaughter “In Some Foreign Field.”Here it is. Love R. The video is by Sean Evans. The mix is by Gus Seyffert.
cannabineer
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This had been one of my fav songs — until Roger made a colossal twat of himself.
A quick listen of the proffered audio was No. I don’t like covers.
Roger A. Shrubber
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Oh...That Roger...i wondered for a minute what the fuck i had done...
cannabineer
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Oh...That Roger...i wondered for a minute what the fuck i had done...
Lucky Luke
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I don't think you can call it a cover if its a reworking by the original artist.
"In popular music, a cover version, cover song, remake, revival, or simply cover, is a new performance or recording by a musician other than the original performer or composer of the song. "- Wiki.
We all make twats of ourselves every now and again. What did Roger do?
Does twat also mean a vagina in the US like it does here in Oz?
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Lucky Luke
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Sativied
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False equivalence is just the outer layer of this rotten onion. His admission Australia and the US did the same and we should now when the Jews do it be like "hold on..." is just devious. It tricks people into accepting logically valid parts of the premise as truth if they choose to argue against the remainder. Popular debate technique in reptilian brains but also journalists interviewing politicians which then are forced to give a very 'political' answer to avoid confirming any assumptions. Usually best not to dignify. Logical validity doesn't equal truth.
The goal of equating jews in Israel to white European colonists is to demonize the jew, not to help Palestinians.
"It's not an SS uniform because I didn't use the actual symbols [that my management told me would definitely get me in trouble with German law and end the tour prematurely]"
"They rule the world"... nah man, they're just tools used by lizard alien overlords.
Anti-Semites should leave the social justice warrior act to those who actually give a shit regardless of whether it involves jews. In this matter, especially Brits should refrain from judging those who live in and deal with the mess they created.
cannabineer
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I don’t know the correct term. However it isn’t the original as per album.
As for what he did, it has all been covered upthread. My biggest gripe is that he seriously suggested Ukraine negotiate with her rapist in mid-rape, and accept the loss of territory stolen by naked aggression. That is unarguably carrying Vladolf’s water.
Lucky Luke
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This thread has nothing bad about him in it. Some claims that are unfounded and some links that don't say what the posters thought they did.
That's nothing to terrible. Majority of wars end in negotiations, nothing new there and lots of people and world governments have said basically the same including the UN. I'd imagine that's been suggested in the peace talks.
So not to big a gripe then in the scheme of things.
doublejj
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Genocide...
Russian authorities are attempting to indoctrinate thousands of Ukrainian children and destroy their national identity. These children have been systematically separated from their homes and families. The Kremlin continues to hide the truth behind its actions.
Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office (@FCDOGovUK)
Russian authorities are attempting to indoctrinate thousands of Ukrainian children and destroy their national identity. These children have been systematically separated from their homes and families. The Kremlin continues to hide the truth behind its actions. #TakenFromUkraine
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Lucky Luke
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Yep. Its horrid.Genocide...
Russian authorities are attempting to indoctrinate thousands of Ukrainian children and destroy their national identity. These children have been systematically separated from their homes and families. The Kremlin continues to hide the truth behind its actions.
Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office (@FCDOGovUK)
Russian authorities are attempting to indoctrinate thousands of Ukrainian children and destroy their national identity. These children have been systematically separated from their homes and families. The Kremlin continues to hide the truth behind its actions. #TakenFromUkraine
Israel is doing much the same to Palestinians as your fully aware.
Prominent scholars of the international law crime of genocide and human rights authorities take the position that Israel’s policies toward the Palestinian people could constitute a form of genocide. Those policies range from the 1948 mass killing and displacement of Palestinians to a half century of military occupation and, correspondingly, the discriminatory legal regime governing Palestinians, repeated military assaults on Gaza, and official Israeli statements expressly favouring the elimination of Palestinians.
Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories
Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.
www.amnesty.org
Its good that people in the limelight like Waters calls it out. I wonder if Israel's attempt to smear and cancel him has had the opposite effect? They appear to of tried a Trump style Fake news attack. I can understand why its big news in America due to its huge funding and support of Israel and of cause Americas large wacko Christian population which is why Israel gets so much American support. But what Israel is doing is not right, just as what Russia is doing is not right. We all know two wrongs don't make a right.
The western world isn't funding, supporting or aiding Russia in its invasion and occupation but they are funding, supporting and aiding the Israelis invasion and occupation of Palestine.
Interestingly Israel has been sitting on the Ukraine Russian fence.
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Lucky Luke
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The full concert.
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doublejj
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Maybe the Palestinians should negotiate with the Israelis and let the Israelis have their children to be raised as jews.....it would end a lot of hostilities, just like Waters wants Ukraine to doYep. Its horrid.
Israel is doing much the same to Palestinians as your fully aware.
Prominent scholars of the international law crime of genocide and human rights authorities take the position that Israel’s policies toward the Palestinian people could constitute a form of genocide. Those policies range from the 1948 mass killing and displacement of Palestinians to a half century of military occupation and, correspondingly, the discriminatory legal regime governing Palestinians, repeated military assaults on Gaza, and official Israeli statements expressly favouring the elimination of Palestinians.
Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories
Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.
Its good that people in the limelight like Waters calls it out. I wonder if Israel's attempt to smear and cancel him has had the opposite effect? They appear to of tried a Trump style Fake news attack.
The western world isn't funding, supporting or aiding Russia in its invasion and occupation but they are funding, supporting and funding the Israelis invasion and occupation of Palestine.
Lucky Luke
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You seem to be making stuff up.
Where has Waters said he wanted Ukrainian children taken by the Russians? You cannot make a child Jewish. Judaism is passed down from the mother i believe (?)
Hostilities will never end in Europe.
doublejj
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He is calling for a negotiated end to the invasion while Russia holds much Ukrainian land (and children). He's not calling for Russia's invading army to withdraw and return everything they have stolen. It's like asking a burglar to just make themselves at home in your spare bedroom while you negotiate how much you are willing to let them keep for breaking and entering your home. Oh and by the way they have several of your children in there with them.
Lucky Luke
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What has he actually said. Can you supply a quote and more importantly a date of the quote? This war has been going on a long time with perhaps years more to unfold so time stamps are important.
Considering Waters has a great quote that reads:
“History tells us that the invasion and occupation of a land and the subjugation of its people almost always creates a resistance. Ask the French or the Dutch or the Poles or the Czechs, the list goes on. This crisis in Gaza is a crisis rooted in occupation.”
- Roger Waters.
Why do you JJ, support Israel's occupation and genocide of a peoples in Palestine but not Ukraine? Are they not both bad?
Here's Waters speech to the UN. You should read or watch it. It might change your mind about him and realise that a smear campaign is a smear campaign.
Text of Roger Waters’ speech at the UN | Russell Tribunal on Palestine
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Chipsorfries
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So I take it you're not a fan. I could really care less about what musicians views are of anything. All I care about is their music. To each their own.
Sativied
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”The 1948 mass killings” is not a thing. What is a thing is Israel‘s declaration of independence, taking matters into own hands because the Brits screwed them over and weren’t going to keep their promise, like they did do for the arabs in Jordan. Nobody every suggests Jordan is illegitimate. Instead, the Brits decided the Jews would not got their own nation and would have to live as a majority in an arab state. After breaking the promise to Arabe that helped them defeat the Turks who’d trust them anyway. F that of course, that would be the end of the jews sooner than later, don’t need Britain’s permission to legitimize anything. Britain who deported Jews from Israel back to Europe and refused to increase the by them allowed number of jewish immigrants (not occupiers/colonists, immigrants) while they already new what Germans did with them.
So they declared independence and ended up kicking out the brits. Same day Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and jihad groups attacked the Jews, including civilians. Similar thing happened a year earlier when the UN came up with a partition map.
After that Jordan rules west bank, Egypt Gaza. That’s why it’s still shitholes, because Israel did not take those areas.
1967, 3rd Arab-Israeli war. Islam and its hunger for holy wars and dead jews make another attempt to keep the jew down. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Jihadis vs Israel. 6 days later 1000 death jews, 20000 death enemies and Israel got a lot bigger. If Ukraine would have done a preemptive strike on Russia’s troops when US warned they were about to attack I would have cheered them on as well.
Moral of the story is don’t try to wipe out the Jews, they won’t accept the subhuman role again, they’ll take your land as a precaution and have zero moral obligation to give it back to terroris organizations who want to use the area to attack Israel some more. Instead, they turn it into a civilized western liberal democracy where arabs were treated better than in arab nations. Yes, wobbly with Netanyahu but no doubt they will survive him too.