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NoDrama

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No other country should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.
Has the USA ever directly attacked any nation that had nuclear weapons ready to fire off? Ever?
If I were some country and didn't want the USA to come rolling across my borders in an effort to take my resources, getting nuke capability would be job #1.

The last time Iran attacked another country was in 1798.

In 1953 the United States backed a coup on the Iranian government to depose the democratically elected Prime minister. Mohammad Mossadegh was going to audit the books of Anglo Iranian Oil company, British oil interests were being challenged.

"August 2013, 60 years after, the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) admitted that it was involved in both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda."
 

Harrekin

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londonfog

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Has the USA ever directly attacked any nation that had nuclear weapons ready to fire off? Ever?
If I were some country and didn't want the USA to come rolling across my borders in an effort to take my resources, getting nuke capability would be job #1.

The last time Iran attacked another country was in 1798.

In 1953 the United States backed a coup on the Iranian government to depose the democratically elected Prime minister. Mohammad Mossadegh was going to audit the books of Anglo Iranian Oil company, British oil interests were being challenged.

"August 2013, 60 years after, the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) admitted that it was involved in both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda."
If Doer heard you talking like this, he would go Jihad on you...but you are correct
 

althor

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I have yet been given a clear reason why it is USA can have nukes but tell other countries that they are not allowed to have nukes.
When we dismantle and dispose of ALL of our nukes, then we have some moral ground to stand on, until then we have no right to tell other countries what they can or cannot have.
 

TBoneJack

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I have yet been given a clear reason why it is USA can have nukes but tell other countries that they are not allowed to have nukes.
When we dismantle and dispose of ALL of our nukes, then we have some moral ground to stand on, until then we have no right to tell other countries what they can or cannot have.
The hell with morals and fairness when it comes to nukes. We're not talking about every kid on the playground getting equal amounts of candy. We're talking about a single bomb that could start World War III.

No more of them should be built, by anybody. And efforts to keep that from happening are worthwhile. And president Osama has defended Iran's nuclear program from Israel, which is Iran's most hated enemy.

Thanks Osama!
 

althor

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Because America said so? ^

How many countries has the moral and fair USA attacked in the past 20 years?
How many countries has the evil Iran attacked in the last 50 years?
 

ginwilly

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I have yet been given a clear reason why it is USA can have nukes but tell other countries that they are not allowed to have nukes.
When we dismantle and dispose of ALL of our nukes, then we have some moral ground to stand on, until then we have no right to tell other countries what they can or cannot have.
I feel the same as you but my trepidation is about an arms race in the middle east occurring if Iran gets nuclear.

IF we are going to allow a nuclear ME in the name of sovereign countries having the right to defend themselves then we have to take the leash off Israel in that same vane.
 

Harrekin

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The hell with morals and fairness when it comes to nukes. We're not talking about every kid on the playground getting equal amounts of candy. We're talking about a single bomb that could start World War III.

No more of them should be built, by anybody. And efforts to keep that from happening are worthwhile. And president Osama has defended Iran's nuclear program from Israel, which is Iran's most hated enemy.

Thanks Osama!
When has Iran even made threatening noises towards another country, except by metaphorically saying the Palestinian should have Israel not the Israelis?

All the countries you idiots claim are bad (Syria, Libya, Iran, etc) are the ones fighting IS from the very beginning, yet you continue to back SHITTY places like Saudi Arabia (Osama bin Ladens actual country).
 

schuylaar

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Has the USA ever directly attacked any nation that had nuclear weapons ready to fire off? Ever?
If I were some country and didn't want the USA to come rolling across my borders in an effort to take my resources, getting nuke capability would be job #1.

The last time Iran attacked another country was in 1798.

In 1953 the United States backed a coup on the Iranian government to depose the democratically elected Prime minister. Mohammad Mossadegh was going to audit the books of Anglo Iranian Oil company, British oil interests were being challenged.

"August 2013, 60 years after, the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) admitted that it was involved in both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda."
so in other words, business as usual.
 

Doer

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When has Iran even made threatening noises towards another country, except by metaphorically saying the Palestinian should have Israel not the Israelis?

All the countries you idiots claim are bad (Syria, Libya, Iran, etc) are the ones fighting IS from the very beginning, yet you continue to back SHITTY places like Saudi Arabia (Osama bin Ladens actual country).
Well we couldn't have a shitty bunch of Iranian Sh'ia, the majority in the Saudi oil zone, it have it, could we?

One Jihad is as bad as the next.
 

Doer

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I feel the same as you but my trepidation is about an arms race in the middle east occurring if Iran gets nuclear.

IF we are going to allow a nuclear ME in the name of sovereign countries having the right to defend themselves then we have to take the leash off Israel in that same vane.
Allow?

Israel has nukes. There are Russian nukes in Syria. Pakistan has nukes, India, China, North Korea all have nukes. Brazil has nukes and won't admit it. South Africa has nukes.

Israel was not allowed to have them? So what. They just got what they needed, the same as Pakistan, same as North Korea..

Here are some other Bizarre, World Culture lies.

- the world can allow or dis-allow nuclear arming
- there can be moderate Islam (moderate Muslims? maybe)
- that neither Sunni nor Sh'ia have nukes
- that the Saudi oil zone is not Iranian Sh'ia
- that these UN boundaries mean anything to Jihad
- that Islam is a religion of peace
- that Gestapo is dead, and not the Arab Brotherhood
- that there is no Global Jihad active in the USA
- that love is universal and not learned
- that the USA is a superior culture
- that the USA is raping the world
- that history does not repeat
- etc
 

Harrekin

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Well we couldn't have a shitty bunch of Iranian Sh'ia, the majority in the Saudi oil zone, it have it, could we?

One Jihad is as bad as the next.
And from the other side of the fence, Shia Jihad is a response to imperialistic America.

In the words of the Great Yoda:

Perception, a matter of is.
 

Doer

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Sure

They were doing pretty good until the CIA got caught messing with them

Now they are still pissed off?
 
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UncleBuck

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When has Iran even made threatening noises towards another country
i know an anti-semite like you doesn't care, but they have said israel should be erased from the pages of time or wiped off fthe face of the earth.

of course you probably agree though.
 

TBoneJack

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When has Iran even made threatening noises towards another country, except by metaphorically saying the Palestinian should have Israel not the Israelis?

All the countries you idiots claim are bad (Syria, Libya, Iran, etc) are the ones fighting IS from the very beginning, yet you continue to back SHITTY places like Saudi Arabia (Osama bin Ladens actual country).
No country that doesn't already have nukes should be allowed to develop them. Whether they have good intentions or bad. Because good intentions can turn bad from one generation to the next.

Do you remember the teaser for Tom Clancy's book "The Sum of all Fears"?

"27,000 nuclear weapons in the world: and one is missing".

All it would take is for one of those things to find its way into terrorist hands. Just one. So, we need to stop making more, and reduce the number we have (all countries).
 

TBoneJack

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i know an anti-semite like you doesn't care, but they have said israel should be erased from the pages of time or wiped off fthe face of the earth.

of course you probably agree though.
I've been to Iraq on business a few times. And on a day off one time, I went into a public library. And I happened to pick up a book of maps, and every map that contained Israel either had Israel cut out, or Israel was blacked out with a black majic marker. This was every map I saw in a public library in Iraq. All those countries hate Israel. And none of them should have nukes.
 

Doer

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No country that doesn't already have nukes should be allowed to develop them. Whether they have good intentions or bad. Because good intentions can turn bad from one generation to the next.

Do you remember the teaser for Tom Clancy's book "The Sum of all Fears"?

"27,000 nuclear weapons in the world: and one is missing".

All it would take is for one of those things to find its way into terrorist hands. Just one. So, we need to stop making more, and reduce the number we have (all countries).
Well, how are you going to stop it?
 
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