kpmarine
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Since everything is getting shut down, at least you have a pretty open market at the moment.
Relocating to San Diego to grow legally, have question about $$$$
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Just to give you an idea...what people in nyc consider "sour diesel" is usually on par with our greenhouse that can be had for less than 2k a lb. I've had people show me stuff they paid 110 dollars a quarter for on the east coast that was quite obviously outdoor.
ReefBongwell
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I'm in somewhat the same boat as you... planning a move to CA (though still haven't decided whether it'll be CA, elsewhere, or even stay here)... frankly after a lot of reading and researching i'm half tempted to stay where i'm at.... but really can't it's not just the risk i'm looking to leave behind but the ability to not live quite so in the closet.
Anyway, here are my thoughts on your thread:
* most of your questions on limits/legal issues have been asked/answered 100x in this forum, all you gotta do is do a little reading
* SD - obviously not from there, but from what i've heard most of SD is pretty medical unfriendly except for one enclave i can't remember the name of sure someone'll know the one i'm thinking of and post the name.. too lazy to check a map
* Socal is probably an easier market to break into than nocal as far as selling to dispensaries, but now a lot are getting shut down so that may change. you're probably more likely to be targeted by cops in socal
* Sounds like nocal is almost impossible to break into unless you're bringing the true top shelf west coast strains that they can't get enough of like topshelf GSC
* Nowhere on the west coast wants you to move there - no one wants the competition -- but there are some cool people on here who don't care
* indoor as stated here 2000 - 3200... 2400 seems to be about average for general topshelf 28-32 for the in demand strains
* bring money or have income lined up you're gonna need to pull in a lot indoor to make a decent living and electric isn't cheap in cali lots of $$ for setup and expenses to cover
It can be done but you better have resources to get through your harvest (or worse yet a bad harvest) and be a go getter. The average pothead who thinks he's going to grow for a living ain't gonna make it in cali.
Anyway, here are my thoughts on your thread:
* most of your questions on limits/legal issues have been asked/answered 100x in this forum, all you gotta do is do a little reading
* SD - obviously not from there, but from what i've heard most of SD is pretty medical unfriendly except for one enclave i can't remember the name of sure someone'll know the one i'm thinking of and post the name.. too lazy to check a map
* Socal is probably an easier market to break into than nocal as far as selling to dispensaries, but now a lot are getting shut down so that may change. you're probably more likely to be targeted by cops in socal
* Sounds like nocal is almost impossible to break into unless you're bringing the true top shelf west coast strains that they can't get enough of like topshelf GSC
* Nowhere on the west coast wants you to move there - no one wants the competition -- but there are some cool people on here who don't care
* indoor as stated here 2000 - 3200... 2400 seems to be about average for general topshelf 28-32 for the in demand strains
* bring money or have income lined up you're gonna need to pull in a lot indoor to make a decent living and electric isn't cheap in cali lots of $$ for setup and expenses to cover
It can be done but you better have resources to get through your harvest (or worse yet a bad harvest) and be a go getter. The average pothead who thinks he's going to grow for a living ain't gonna make it in cali.
Mithrandir420
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Competition is not why we get all grumpy about people flocking here. Seriously man, it's not. For those of us who grew up here there is no competition from out of staters. Generally we already have years of underground connections built up, and we know the lay of the land. You could move next door to me today and I wouldn't fee your competition. (We would get seriously fucking high, though!) You couldn't grow enough to supply all of one dispensaries needs, let alone wipe out everyone else. The demand is high. (No pun intended)
West Coasties, Californians in particular get all grumpy because we have been where the entire country moves to for the last 50 years. Much of our traffic and overcrowding issues are not due to natives having too many babies. Also, in any place you are going to run into a "locals only" sort of attitude. In addition, us Californians get a ration of shit whenever we move to other states. So yes, some of us get grumpy about too many people moving here, but it's not because of increased competition.
Most people who start ANY business fail in the first year. That's just a hard fact. The cannabusiness is even tougher, but I am not here to stop anyone from failing, or succeeding. If you all really want to come out here, then come. Just learn to drive the freeways correctly when you do, and don't talk about how much better it is at home. And for the love of all that is green and holy, don't insult a California native in his home state after you immigrated there.
If you already have your non dispensary connections already. If you are the networking kind of person who makes friends and contacts easily, maybe. But what happens when you come here and all the stores are closed and you don't know many people? Who will you move your product to?
ReefBongwell
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I wasn't trying to say the only reason out of staters aren't wanted is competition... 
Agree with what you said other than a couple of things... last few years you've been losing a LOT of people moving east due to the economy and it's killing your tax base... you should be welcoming a return to being the state that people have been going to for 50 years... you're not it anymore other than the small contingent of people moving west coast to grow weed Also it's not true that everyplace hates out of staters... sure there are small towns everywhere that can be closed to outsiders, but a lot of states have an open arm attitude to people from other places (as long as they're not dicks). I don't see any reason why someone from cali shouldn't dislike dicks moving to their state either (like the people who move there and insult it, etc). But a lot of people i've met from west coast (not just cali) bring a very unfriendly, cold attitude at the idea of anyone moving there... and i'm sure a lot of that negative stuff you mention is the cause, but it doesn't make you seem any better to the people you're brushing off.
Agree with what you said other than a couple of things... last few years you've been losing a LOT of people moving east due to the economy and it's killing your tax base... you should be welcoming a return to being the state that people have been going to for 50 years... you're not it anymore other than the small contingent of people moving west coast to grow weed Also it's not true that everyplace hates out of staters... sure there are small towns everywhere that can be closed to outsiders, but a lot of states have an open arm attitude to people from other places (as long as they're not dicks). I don't see any reason why someone from cali shouldn't dislike dicks moving to their state either (like the people who move there and insult it, etc). But a lot of people i've met from west coast (not just cali) bring a very unfriendly, cold attitude at the idea of anyone moving there... and i'm sure a lot of that negative stuff you mention is the cause, but it doesn't make you seem any better to the people you're brushing off.Yup, this plus market price are the only things making me want to stay... but I got a buddy in CA who already has connections he's just not as experienced a grower as I am
Mithrandir420
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If I knew enough people, had some friends in a non med state with connections, I would move for the higher prices. I saw an old friend last week I had not seen in many years. Last I saw him was after I set him up and taught him to grow, which was late 90's, early 2000's. I asked him how it went, and he said he retired after 5 years. 
Sadly I never had the space available that he had when prices here were still 4k a pack all day long.
If I was in a non med state, other than Texas (sorry Reef! ), I would stay for the prices, then retire to the West Coast. Unless I was going to go super semi legit and be a seed breeder or something like that.
Sadly I never had the space available that he had when prices here were still 4k a pack all day long. If I was in a non med state, other than Texas (sorry Reef!
), I would stay for the prices, then retire to the West Coast. Unless I was going to go super semi legit and be a seed breeder or something like that.
ReefBongwell
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Yeah I really wish I hadn't stopped growing when I first started the prices were sooooo much better then
The problem with staying for the prices is you're still under the same legal risk of getting busted... also don't want to grow up in a state where they are going to teach my kid daddy's a criminal not that being west coast guarantees you not to get busted, but it does make it a lot less likely if you're not pushing limits, stealing electric, etc and a whole lot more likely to get charges dropped if some overzealous pigs do target you. I guess I just wanna have my cake and eat it too Also it's fuuuuuuuckin hot in texas. Not to mention the cannabis/grow culture there compared to here too. If there were any real chance of things changing here too it might be different... but I don't see it changing and even getting medical in the next 10-20 years. If they ever did get medical it would probably be like the states where it's super tightly regulated.
The problem with staying for the prices is you're still under the same legal risk of getting busted... also don't want to grow up in a state where they are going to teach my kid daddy's a criminal
not that being west coast guarantees you not to get busted, but it does make it a lot less likely if you're not pushing limits, stealing electric, etc and a whole lot more likely to get charges dropped if some overzealous pigs do target you. I guess I just wanna have my cake and eat it too Also it's fuuuuuuuckin hot in texas. Not to mention the cannabis/grow culture there compared to here too. If there were any real chance of things changing here too it might be different... but I don't see it changing and even getting medical in the next 10-20 years. If they ever did get medical it would probably be like the states where it's super tightly regulated.
rwbrock
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Do it if you can....SD for the women alone Try to get closer to the beach way more chill. All the dispensaries have been shutting down but tons of delivery only. It is pretty mellow and relaxed here when it comes to weed and very accepted most people don't blink when you tell them you smoke. San Diego Gas and electric is one of the most expensive. To be honest we need more good growers, I went back to growing because I was tired of paying for medium grade bud people are trying to pass as top shelf. I actually called a new delivery to get some misc wax and edibles not long ago to try and when the lady came (small operation). Wasn't to impressed with the limited menu and quality....had just grown some pretty good Green Crack and gave them a sample owner lady had no prob giving up $200.00 per oz. I just grow for personal but had some extra to donate so it worked out. There are lots of people who grow out here...it is kinda like Colorado lots of people already have the jump on it. But hey like i said if you can invest in some good genetics and something new...everyone loves a new name lol someone will be interested and it isn't too hard to get in the mix if you know what your doing. Just don't expect it to happen over night. Being from NY you are used to high costs of living. Work isn't as easy to find either. I am a little North of SD in OC and that has been my experience. LA is a little different story...
By the way there is a dispensary selling Girl Scout Cookie seeds I use sometimes but not sure how good the genetics are.....they just got it on the menu, might have to try at $5 per seed.
Try to get closer to the beach way more chill. All the dispensaries have been shutting down but tons of delivery only. It is pretty mellow and relaxed here when it comes to weed and very accepted most people don't blink when you tell them you smoke. San Diego Gas and electric is one of the most expensive. To be honest we need more good growers, I went back to growing because I was tired of paying for medium grade bud people are trying to pass as top shelf. I actually called a new delivery to get some misc wax and edibles not long ago to try and when the lady came (small operation). Wasn't to impressed with the limited menu and quality....had just grown some pretty good Green Crack and gave them a sample owner lady had no prob giving up $200.00 per oz. I just grow for personal but had some extra to donate so it worked out. There are lots of people who grow out here...it is kinda like Colorado lots of people already have the jump on it. But hey like i said if you can invest in some good genetics and something new...everyone loves a new name lol someone will be interested and it isn't too hard to get in the mix if you know what your doing. Just don't expect it to happen over night. Being from NY you are used to high costs of living. Work isn't as easy to find either. I am a little North of SD in OC and that has been my experience. LA is a little different story...By the way there is a dispensary selling Girl Scout Cookie seeds I use sometimes but not sure how good the genetics are.....they just got it on the menu, might have to try at $5 per seed.
Also don't expect your first grow to be fantastic...or even sellable. My first harvest in cali was some stressed out lookin dog shit. Somehow I managed to find someone to pay me to take it all away...but that was literally like a 1 in a million kind of chance and the person obviously had NO clue what he was buying.
ReefBongwell
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My first harvest'll be fine... i'm bringing a truckload of grow room gear with me lol
Mithrandir420
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Yeah, if you know what you are doing and have access to decent genetics there is no reason you can't kill it your first harvest. Reef is going to be killing it from the get go when he gets here.
ReefBongwell
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Ah... the grow from hell... i am familiar with that one unfortunately and am trying to forget shit happens
shit happensMithrandir420
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Hit me up if you need build advice, Phish. I can build one hell of a room.
You did well though for all the uphill battles you had to face. Was that your first time growing?
You did well though for all the uphill battles you had to face. Was that your first time growing?
It was my first time growing outside of a 4X4 tent. Was also my first time using clones instead of growing from seed. I only had 2 small grows under my belt before that one.
The thing that frustrated me was how perfect my canopy was...how nice and bushy the plants were...and how much effort i put into trying to save those little bastards...and that it pretty much seemed like at some point they just stopped maturing and started breaking themselves down no matter what i did to try and save the little fuckers. I'm just gonna contribute it to shitty craigslist genetics so i can sleep at night...hahahah
The thing that frustrated me was how perfect my canopy was...how nice and bushy the plants were...and how much effort i put into trying to save those little bastards...and that it pretty much seemed like at some point they just stopped maturing and started breaking themselves down no matter what i did to try and save the little fuckers. I'm just gonna contribute it to shitty craigslist genetics so i can sleep at night...hahahah
Cannabis Couture
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Come to San Diego, we would love to have you! Lets connect so when you get here we can do some networking! As long as you have meds to grow you are ok as long as its not trash, sure there are popular names out there but a lot of dispensaries also carry names I've never heard of.
San Diego PD or SDSO? Oh and welcome to RIU
Cannabis Couture
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San Diego PD or SDSO? Oh and welcome to RIU
i would hope they aren't using taxpayer dollars to surf a forum.
maybe it occurs but I'm def not either, if I were I wouldn't be on a website with stoners since I don't feel weed shoud be illegal. Besides, I could never be a cop I smoke too much!!
good try though.. I guess?
Mithrandir420
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When you come onto a website like this and your first couple of posts are asking to "network", well you look like a LEO of some sort. Albeit, not a very bright one...San Diego PD or SDSO? Oh and welcome to RIU
i would hope they aren't using taxpayer dollars to surf a forum.
maybe it occurs but I'm def not either, if I were I wouldn't be on a website with stoners since I don't feel weed shoud be illegal. Besides, I could never be a cop I smoke too much!!
good try though.. I guess?