Red Dragon & Magic Bud - First CFL grow using "Buds for Less" light set-up

Grumpy Old Dreamer

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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Grumpy Old Dreamer said:
Just a little update ... and then some.

The 4 clones undergoing ZSTing are doing very well, they have had 2 days with the pot upright and growth is pointing skywards. I have just laid the pots on their sides again where they will stay for 2 days before being set right again ... this will train the growth along the frame again and the securing clip will be moved closer to the tip before the pots are stood up again.
The first photo shows the plant stem bending to the frame and the second photo is a top-down shot of the 4 clones that are being trained.

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I'm hoping that they will have grown long enough to be positioned under the SCROG screen in about a weeks time.

The next part of todays update involves the production of the Feminized Red Dragon seeds.

I started making the Colloidal Silver which will be applied to one clone tomorrow night just before lights out.

Firstly, the victims ... err ... volunteers:


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These two photos show 3 clones, one top-down shot and one side-on shot.
In both photos the middle clone is the one to be treated with Colloidal Silver, the two outside clones were placed under the Kessil H150 Magenta light 5 days ago on a 12/12 timer.
All three clones were the same size 5 days ago, now there is a definite difference as the 12/12 plants have a greater spread and have stretched as flowering approaches.
By the time the CS clone has produced pollen, the two seed bearers should have a reasonable number of pistils waiting to receive the pollen.

Just a quick lesson on how to make Colloidal Silver.

Find an old mobile phone charger, they have an output of around 5v DC which is perfect.
Snip off the plug that fits into the phone.
Strip the wires.
Attach 2 small alligator clips - the crimp-on style need no soldering and cost a few cents from and electronics shop (Radioshack/Dick Smiths {for us Aussies} ).
Attach small pieces of silver to the clips. (99.999% pure - jewellers wire, pure silver coins or ingots)
Pour Demineralised Water (cleaning products section of supermarket) into a glass.
Tape clips to inside of glass so that the silver (and NOT the clips) are immersed in the water.
Turn on charger and leave in darkness for 12 - 24 hours (silver reacts with light).

Next photo is my Colloidal Silver generator ... followed by ... well, I'm sure you can work it out ...

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... Watch this Space.
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... The story continues.

26 November 2010

:leaf: THE WAITING IS OVER :leaf:

The three sisters were photographed today as it is a milestone.

For the last couple of days I have been more and more convinced that the clone being treated with Colloidal Silver was showing maleness, or at least a very restricted and confused femaleness.
Today I am willing to state that it is definitely producing male flowers.

These 2 photos are the 3 clones 16 days apart. They are in 4 inch pots so you can see how small they are and how little stretching has happened.
The 2 full females are very frosty and smell amazingly fruity ... supposed to be like guava, but who the fuck knows what a guava smells like.

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The 2 full girls are gagging for the pollen, but they will have to wait as I expect it to be a week or 2 before the pollen is ready ... I gave them a 7 day head start under 12/12 and I now realise that this wasn't needed, but I will get more seeds - so all is good.

Just a bit of baby bud porn before we look at the shemale's tiny balls ... something about that sentence doesn't quite sound right.

Here are the 2 gals that are gagging for pollen ...

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... and now for the pollen donor, (s)he is the same age as the other two plants but has has 7 days less 12/12 light and has been treated with colloidal Silver daily since 10th November 2010.
I made (and used) about 200ml of colloidal silver running the CS generator for 24 hours.

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I made a second 200ml of Colloidal Silver and I will continue to apply the CS until the 200ml is finished - that should make sure that (s)he continues to grow some balls.

The waiting seemed like forever but it wan't long really, just a bit longer and I can pollinate the seedbearers.
Looking at the number of pistils I think I am going to be happy with the number of seeds these babies will produce.

... again,

WATCH THIS SPACE.
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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How are you going to harvest then pollinate? I've read the CS males produce small amounts of pollen, and sacs have to be hand opened carefully. Just wondering your plan.
Daniels
 
Agent Provocateur

Agent Provocateur

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mmmm looking good, well done on persevering with the CS :D Isnt it funny that were all obsessed with plants private bits lol! My god sometimes it doest sit right that we are smoking a plants fanjita!!!!!! lol oh well roll anotherbongsmilie lol


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Grumpy Old Dreamer

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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Danielsgb said:
How are you going to harvest then pollinate? I've read the CS males produce small amounts of pollen, and sacs have to be hand opened carefully. Just wondering your plan.
Daniels
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Keep watching and we will all see what type of pollen sacks CS males produce - (I've no idea yet) - if I have to open carefully and hand pollinate then thats ok ... the plants are tiny and easily handled.
 
chronic afro

chronic afro

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y are them hairs got such a amber look to them so early? just sat down for this one!! hope to see good things. goodluck andkeep it green...
 
Grumpy Old Dreamer

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chronic afro said:
y are them hairs got such a amber look to them so early? just sat down for this one!! hope to see good things. goodluck andkeep it green...
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The hairs in the last photos are amber/brown/shrivelling up and dieing ... that plant is gender confused and is shedding its femininity and growing balls.

Have a look at the seed making thread in my sig for updates on that experiment.
 
Grumpy Old Dreamer

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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Danielsgb said:
How are you going to harvest then pollinate? I've read the CS males produce small amounts of pollen, and sacs have to be hand opened carefully. Just wondering your plan.
Daniels
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It is starting to look like my "CS male" will produce a fair amount of pollen - it isn't just growing the occasional pollen sac, nor is it looking like it is making nanas ... looks to me like it is a full blown male.

I'm keeping a very close eye on him and will move him back into my vegging space very soon, away from my scrog plant.

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karri0n

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Any progress pics on the female that you're doing under the LED? Do you think she recovered well from the poor PH issue?

I'm really interested in how the results turn out from that LED and your grams per watt ratio
 
Agent Provocateur

Agent Provocateur

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karri0n said:
Any progress pics on the female that you're doing under the LED? Do you think she recovered well from the poor PH issue?

I'm really interested in how the results turn out from that LED and your grams per watt ratio
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Me too :D

Hey G.O.D hows it going? nice pics btw put my camera skills to shame lol :P
 
Grumpy Old Dreamer

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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karri0n said:
Any progress pics on the female that you're doing under the LED? Do you think she recovered well from the poor PH issue?

I'm really interested in how the results turn out from that LED and your grams per watt ratio
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Agent Provocateur said:
Me too :D

Hey G.O.D hows it going? nice pics btw put my camera skills to shame lol :P
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My plant "recovered" but not really well.

I have decided that I have an issue with my soil mix, as other plants have shown very slow stunted growth.
Trying to fit too many variables into a first grow leads to poor results and doesn't allow analysis of what caused what.

My next SCROG will also be a soil SCROG but with a different mix, I have already brutalised my 4 ZST'd clones by removing most of the soil and repotting them together in a large pot - no pikkies until they recover.
The next SCROG will definitely out-perform the first.

The third SCROG that I have lined up will be done using the "Hempy" system - I am finished with soil.

Here is a photo of the original SCROG, the yield won't be great and it won't be a fair indicator of the lights potential, but it was a valuable learning tool.

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Grumpy Old Dreamer

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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Maximus cannabis said:
Hey G.O.D. so do you think that in retrospect you would have put them to flower at the same time?
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Definitely, the seed bearers have many more pistils than I anticipated and the pollen giver is still at least a week away from giving pollen.

As the seeds are for my own use, and hopefully will be part of a many strain collection of seeds, I don't need hundreds of seeds of each strain - they will lose viability before I get to use them all.
 
fictionalgrower

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G.O.D.,
When I finally get the balls to give breeding a try, this journal is going to be my guide.

Since I am still struggling to get cloning down ( 1 rooted clone out of 8 cuttings so far) It may be a while :bigjoint:

As always, keep up the good work.
 
Grumpy Old Dreamer

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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fictionalgrower said:
G.O.D.,
When I finally get the balls to give breeding a try, this journal is going to be my guide.

Since I am still struggling to get cloning down ( 1 rooted clone out of 8 cuttings so far) It may be a while :bigjoint:

As always, keep up the good work.
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Thanks FG - as you can see, there is nothing to it except waiting, waiting and more waiting.
 
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