Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Stoned Drifter

Stoned Drifter

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heres my high brix rols recipe. been sitting for 2 weeks. not too sure how it gonna turn out.
1/3 compost
1/3 sphagnum peat
1/3 pumice

Per cuft of base:

4 cups rock dust mix (6x glacial, 1x powdered oyster shell)

1/2 cup neem meal
1/2 cup crab shell meal
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2cup Alfalfa meal
1/2cup Azomite
1/2 cup of 6-5-3 = 6 parts Limestone, 5 parts Soft Rock Phosphate and 3 parts gypsum
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Stoned Drifter said:
heres my high brix rols recipe. been sitting for 2 weeks. not too sure how it gonna turn out.
1/3 compost
1/3 sphagnum peat
1/3 pumice

Per cuft of base:

4 cups rock dust mix (6x glacial, 1x powdered oyster shell)

1/2 cup neem meal
1/2 cup crab shell meal
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2cup Alfalfa meal
1/2cup Azomite
1/2 cup of 6-5-3 = 6 parts Limestone, 5 parts Soft Rock Phosphate and 3 parts gypsum
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whats the high brix coming from...? for high brix you add sst's or molasses. brix is sugar. The kelp and glacial rock dust will have some ... Not enough to keep high brix.. You should get a brix meter too. Adding azomite and lime stone is a little redundant when adding glacial rock dust already. Gypsum takes a year or 2 break down... so make sure mash into a powder
 
Tjingles

Tjingles

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SupraSPL said:
I have 4 rubbermaid 10 gal totes full of hundreds of redworms I collected from leaf piles (sometimes there are piles of castings in the leaf piles as well). I cut out a large opening in the lid
and duct tape screen (paint
strainer) over it so worms and gnats cannot escape. I collect pill bugs, springtails, mites and spiders too. Avoid centipedes. I use leaves and cococoir as embedding, never paper. Only organic food scraps as food.

There is no drain but because of the large air opening it is more likely to get dry than wet. Sometimes I keep them in the living room sometimes in the basement. The worms breed and make awesome castings, I can never have enough.

One warning, when the rubbermaid totes are brand new they have a plastic smell. I wash them thoroughly with dish soap and rinse thoroughly in the tub before use.
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That's awesome! I finally got mine started. 20 gal tote with holes on top and bottem. Beddi g is peat, lil bit of soil, lil bit of rice hules, lil bit of shrdded egg carton and some egg and oyster shell ground up with some biochar. Started off with 1500 reds so I expect things to crank along nicely!
 
foreverflyhi

foreverflyhi

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hyroot said:
whats the high brix coming from...? for high brix you add sst's or molasses. brix is sugar. The kelp and glacial rock dust will have some ... Not enough to keep high brix.. You should get a brix meter too. Adding azomite and lime stone is a little redundant when adding glacial rock dust already. Gypsum takes a year or 2 break down... so make sure mash into a powder
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I just made a batch 2-3weeks ago and didnt grind up the gypsum nore dolmite, will my mix b off? Should i grind them up and add?
 
hyroot

hyroot

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foreverflyhi said:
I just made a batch 2-3weeks ago and didnt grind up the gypsum nore dolmite, will my mix b off? Should i grind them up and add?
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dole lime takes as long to break down too. You want it in powder form to break down faster. Mash it grind it whatever
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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Ground dolo in worm bin FTW! I couldn't go without my mortar n pestle. Egg shells, dolo, potash, neem, meth...all to little bits.

What do you guys think about VERY VERY rich EWC only for fert? I've been slowly adding dandelions, red clover, neem, etc so bin doesn't overheat.

You want to see worms go nuts...add kashi! They'll eat and sex all night.
 
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Ohmless

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I am looking to have a no till mulching system when I move outdoors next summer and am planning ahead. I live in Michigan BTW. I was going to use a supersoil mix the first year and need to source oyster shell.

Question 1: Should I buy the powder "flour" or should I buy another grade?

Question 2: Also have the concern with not having enough browns for composting appropriately. Should I just give the green waste more time to compost or am I worrying over nothing? Another option is to go with locally available aged/composted horse and cow manures if anyone has recommendations or preferences.

Question 3: Winter cover crop?

Question 4: Are there any near neutral pH mulches that I can add annually? if neutral pH isn't important, then what makes a good mulch and what do you recommend?

thanks for letting me pick your brains
 
hyroot

hyroot

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RedCarpetMatches said:
Ground dolo in worm bin FTW! I couldn't go without my mortar n pestle. Egg shells, dolo, potash, neem, meth...all to little bits.

What do you guys think about VERY VERY rich EWC only for fert? I've been slowly adding dandelions, red clover, neem, etc so bin doesn't overheat.

You want to see worms go nuts...add kashi! They'll eat and sex all night.
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my outdoor I didnt use any nutes. just topdressed vc and used clover as a companion crop. small 3 gal. still go big frosty buds. its an rols 3 gal too. same pot that the the skywalker that committed suicide was in..
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Ohmless said:
I am looking to have a no till mulching system when I move outdoors next summer and am planning ahead. I live in Michigan BTW. I was going to use a supersoil mix the first year and need to source oyster shell.

Question 1: Should I buy the powder "flour" or should I buy another grade?

Question 2: Also have the concern with not having enough browns for composting appropriately. Should I just give the green waste more time to compost or am I worrying over nothing? Another option is to go with locally available aged/composted horse and cow manures if anyone has recommendations or preferences.

Question 3: Winter cover crop?

Question 4: Are there any near neutral pH mulches that I can add annually? if neutral pH isn't important, then what makes a good mulch and what do you recommend?

thanks for letting me pick your brains
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1.what powder flour are you referring too?

2. green waste if dried can turn into brown material.. same shit imo... let it compost longer 2 months is a good compost time. dont use horse manure. composted cow manure or alpaca manure is ok i guess. They have multiple stomachs so it becomes probiotic after composting. Horses Ney:lol:. I do veganics or if any animal anything, only crab meal... thats just me..

3. winter cover crops / living mulch are used in the season prior to planting. to keep the microbial life alive and add nitrogen to soil.

4. ph has no place in organics, every thing is a natural ph buffer and / or regulates ph. If you add nutes only use bark or wood chips as a mulch.. green living mulch adds way too much nitrogen... Bracken is the only plant that has large amounts of phos when composted . its highly carcinogenic. So no go there.
 
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Below66

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I love eating fish and seafood so much I've thought of doing a future all sea/crustacean fed bud, feed em' straight herbs and sea stuff.
 
NickNasty

NickNasty

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RedCarpetMatches said:
Brix is for wine grapes.
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You can measure the brix of any plant and the higher the brix the better your plant is doing. Brix is not just sugar its amino acids,minerals,sugar,etc. Brix measures the nutrient density of a plant and the more nutrient dense a plant is the healthier and tastier it is. Testing the brix of your plant is a good habit to get into when trying out new things for instance test a plant leaf right before you add a tea then test another leaf at the same time the next day day. If the brix goes up then you know the tea helped the plant if it goes down then you know that it didn't help.
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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You don't have to use oyster shell. There's Horti lime t
Tjingles said:
In kashi you meen bokashi rite? I have a bucket that I recently added char to and took a piece of aloe skin out and tossed it in with my worms.hour later I looked n they were all over it!
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Yes bokashi...not too much as to get hot (sprinkle like salt). I wouldn't put anything straight into worm bin from a kashi bucket.
 
Tjingles

Tjingles

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Yeah ph would be off the charts low for the worms. My thought process was that hopefully the prior added char would bring it up a bit. Didn't check though. Havn't ph'd anything in quite a long time.

In the bin I have a wee bit of char along with egg and oyster shell ground along with horti lime(espoma). In total I'd say 3-4tbs. Bedding is fairly unshredded peat with a bit of rice hulls and a handful of soil
 
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