Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Midwest Weedist

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I should have been more clear...ime they like a slow-release N source like feather meal present in the soil so it has it when it needs it.
Ohhh now that actually makes sense. Well shoot. I plan on running this strain and others like it so I guess I'll be building another super soil mix for them lol. Cause there's no way my current mix would work, they'd fryyy.
 

Midwest Weedist

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This is one of her offspring in the dirt. She seems to have really liked the epsom salts I sprinkled in the area.




Cheers,
Mo
Best landrace I ever grew was in a compost pile. The only thing I added was PK at the start of flower.

No burnt tips and she never got pale or got yellow fan leaves.







She even started to reveg in January but died when the weather got cold and wet in February.


Cheers,
Mo
Wow!! Beautiful ladies! What gets fed to your compost pile?
 

Mohican

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Weeds in the yard, grass, leaves, banana peels, apple cores, vegetable scraps, coffee grounds, trim, worms, eggshells...whatever I can remember to toss in there.

That pile was four feet tall for almost a year and then when I planted the clone in August the pile was almost flat from decomposition!

I need to disclose that this was the same spot from a year earlier where I grew the trashcan monster with bottled nutes. I am sure that there was plenty of runoff in the same soil.






Cheers,
Mo
 

DonPetro

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Weeds in the yard, grass, leaves, banana peels, apple cores, vegetable scraps, coffee grounds, trim, worms, eggshells...whatever I can remember to toss in there.

That pile was four feet tall for almost a year and then when I planted the clone in August the pile was almost flat from decomposition!

I need to disclose that this was the same spot from a year earlier where I grew the trashcan monster with bottled nutes. I am sure that there was plenty of runoff in the same soil.






Cheers,
Mo
Wow! Love the grass skirt on trash can.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Weeds in the yard, grass, leaves, banana peels, apple cores, vegetable scraps, coffee grounds, trim, worms, eggshells...whatever I can remember to toss in there.

That pile was four feet tall for almost a year and then when I planted the clone in August the pile was almost flat from decomposition!

I need to disclose that this was the same spot from a year earlier where I grew the trashcan monster with bottled nutes. I am sure that there was plenty of runoff in the same soil.






Cheers,
Mo
still awesome to see this bitch................. remember the other monster(s) that took up half your side fencing
 

Midwest Weedist

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Weeds in the yard, grass, leaves, banana peels, apple cores, vegetable scraps, coffee grounds, trim, worms, eggshells...whatever I can remember to toss in there.

That pile was four feet tall for almost a year and then when I planted the clone in August the pile was almost flat from decomposition!

I need to disclose that this was the same spot from a year earlier where I grew the trashcan monster with bottled nutes. I am sure that there was plenty of runoff in the same soil.






Cheers,
Mo
Lmao that isn't a pot plant, that's a damn tree!!
 

a senile fungus

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Is sphagnum peat moss the way to go when growing organically?
I use it too.

It likes to stay hydrated, it helps if you have a mulch or EWC or something on top of the soil to slow down evaporation.

If the peat gets dry it basically repels water, but once moist it can absorb many times its weight in water.
 

Midwest Weedist

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its fine. I add some to my soil mix. I have a coco mix cooking now. I'm just going to try it with one plant. @May11th and @stowandgrow both had smaller yields compared to peat moss.
I've heard that coir produces less yield from a few people now. I really need to go out and buy some peat so I can do a side by side. I've always wanted to use both coir and peat to see if it's some magical combo, but part of me doubts it lol.
 

st0wandgrow

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How do you guys feel about (good) Coco coir?
its fine. I add some to my soil mix. I have a coco mix cooking now. I'm just going to try it with one plant. @May11th and @stowandgrow both had smaller yields compared to peat moss.
I've heard that coir produces less yield from a few people now. I really need to go out and buy some peat so I can do a side by side. I've always wanted to use both coir and peat to see if it's some magical combo, but part of me doubts it lol.
Greasemonkeyman had similar results too, but DP and DT rock it and seem to do great with it.

My grows were by no means anything controlled or scientific. Just my observation. Could have been a case of me not being familiar with it so I could very well have been under/over watering or something.
 

greasemonkeymann

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its fine. I add some to my soil mix. I have a coco mix cooking now. I'm just going to try it with one plant. @May11th and @stowandgrow both had smaller yields compared to peat moss.
yes, add me to that list as well.
15-20% smaller yield.
I do like to use the long hair-like coco, like the stuff they use in the pots to hold the soil, I use chunks (about one to two inch strips) of that in my soil just to increase aeration, I have so many different things in my soil for aeration, (I love me some aeration) but I like the way the hair kinda breaks up the soil but still retains water.
Damn, I think I have almost every kind of aeration in my soil right now, except vermiculite.
biochar, perlite, pumice, volcanic rock, rotten wood, coco hair strips, rice hulls, oyster shells...
 
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Midwest Weedist

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yes, add me to that list as well.
15-20% smaller yield
Greasemonkeyman had similar results too, but DP and DT rock it and seem to do great with it.

My grows were by no means anything controlled or scientific. Just my observation. Could have been a case of me not being familiar with it so I could very well have been under/over watering or something.
Could it have been the coir you used? I've heard that poorly/unpflushed coir can have excess salts?
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I've been told this brand is supposed to be an excellent one because they flush it well before packaging. It's what I use and have had good success with. Though I've never used peat in a base mix that I've made, just in a Fox Farm bagged soil.
 

st0wandgrow

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Could it have been the coir you used? I've heard that poorly/unpflushed coir can have excess salts?
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I've been told this brand is supposed to be an excellent one because they flush it well before packaging. It's what I use and have had good success with. Though I've never used peat in a base mix that I've made, just in a Fox Farm bagged soil.
I don't think so. The brand I used was advertised as "triple washed" and was more expensive than some other options.

The plants grew just fine, and were totally healthy. It was just the yield that suffered. Like grease said above, maybe 20% less yield from those pots when compared to the peat based pots with the same strain grown in it.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's a CEC thing. According to Coot, P and others it doesn't compare to peat in that regard. Just a guess though.
 
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