Record marijuana bust in Mexico - 105 tonnes, valued at $340m

bigv1976 said:

Good job!!!!!!!

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Spanishfly said:

Makes everyone else´s grow fetch a higher price??

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couchlock907 said:

bullshit they have had that weed ten years ago from a bust, they are trying to make it seem the drug war is over their swagg with seeds ! mexico is just raising caine cuz cali is trying to legalize it fuck mexico! their president siad we cant control our drug usagr already you bean eatn fuck all that cocaine and Xstacy that pass through there? fuck your OWN peole are gettin the fuck out of their so take some fuing BEANO and burn 1!

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gogrow said:

you think ecstacy comes from mexico?

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  Mexico closely watches Calif. marijuana vote
  
  Skepticism emerges on whether legalization would financially harm traffickers
  
  
  
  
  
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  Adriana Zehbrauskas for The New York Times In a housing project on the outskirts of Mexico City, Victor Arroyo, who said he was a marijuana user, said that legalization would make use more open.
  
  By RANDAL C. ARCHIBOLD
  The New York Times
  updated 10/17/2010 11:13:08 PM ET 2010-10-18T03:13:08
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  MEXICO CITY — In two weeks, Californians will decide whether to legalize small amounts of marijuana for recreational use, in a vote that polls show could be close.
  Now, for a change in the drug war, it is Mexico wondering about the possible spillover, this time of an idea. Will such a bold step by its neighbor to the north add momentum to a burgeoning movement here for broad drug legalization?
  The backdrop is the drug war, which has left Americans worrying about many of the ills that spill over the border: kidnappings, murders and, of course, drugs themselves. At the same time, Mexicans chafe at the guns flowing in from the States, the nearly 30,000 people killed in drug-related violence here in the past four years and the American demand and consumption that largely sustain the drug trade.
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  Small steps toward legalization have already been taken on both sides of the border. California, where medical marijuana has been legal under state law since 1996, this month made the punishment for possessing small amounts of the drug http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/02/us/politics/02pot.htmlthe equivalent of a speeding ticket instead of a misdemeanor. Last year Mexico removed the penalty for possessing small quantities of a range of drugs, including cocaine, heroin and marijuana, though selling or producing them remain prohibited.
  But the similarities pretty much end there. Even those here who are pushing for the legalization of drugs — and in some circles “hard drugs,” like cocaine and heroin — concede that any major change in Mexico would probably be years away, regardless of what happens in California.
  For one thing, President Felipe Calderón, who has expressed frustration with the prospect of a “yes” vote in California as another sign of Americans’ failure to bring their drug consumption under control, has not budged from his staunch opposition to legalization.
  Because a rising number of intellectuals and some members of the political elite — including his immediate predecessor, Vincente Fox, and ministers who served under him — are advocating legalization, Mr. Calderón has called for a debate on the subject.
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  That raised eyebrows, feeding speculation that a change could be under way. But since then, Mr. Calderón has not done much to encourage it. In fact, two weeks after Mr. Calderón called for a debate, his health minister called legalization “absurd.”
  Few people in the corridors of power have promoted the idea, and most polls show little support for legalization, particularly outside the more liberal confines of Mexico City. But even if the populace were clamoring for a change, Mexico, unlike California, is not known for citizen-driven lawmaking.
  “Reform issues in Mexico tend to be top-down,” said Daniel Lund, a pollster with the Mund Group here. “If nobody in authority is championing an issue, it doesn’t have oomph.”
  Advocates for legalization in Mexico and California insist the motivation is not primarily to make it easier to get high.
  In California, supporters of Proposition 19, which would allow anyone over 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana and permit municipalities to tax and regulate it, have pushed the notion that it could raise $1.4 billion in taxes while diverting law enforcement and prison resources to more serious crimes.
  In Mexico, the main selling point has been that drug-trafficking organizations would be crippled by the creation of a legal, regulated market for their product that would cut off their illicit financial pipeline.
  But as the vote in California draws closer, skepticism is emerging.
  A study released last week by the nonpartisan RAND Drug Policy Research Center in Santa Monica, Calif., cast doubt on whether legalization in California would financially harm Mexico’s drug traffickers.
  It argued that cutting out the California market would reduce their revenue only 2 to 4 percent, in part because much of the marijuana consumed in California is already grown there, and the drug organizations derive their income from many sources. The study did, however, suggest that if low-cost, high-quality California marijuana was smuggled across the United States, the cartels could lose 20 percent of their income from exports.
  Federal officials in the United States hardly see the proposal as a boon.
  Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said Friday that the Justice Department would use federal law to prosecute “those individuals and organizations that possess, manufacture or distribute marijuana for recreational use,” throwing into doubt whether legalization would actually go forward.
  Still, hardly a day passes here without some new wrinkle in the discussion.
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  Nexos, a magazine that has been sympathetic to Mr. Calderón’s approach, devoted its issue this month — with a large marijuana leaf beckoning from newsstands — to advocating legalization. The back-and-forth in California regularly makes headlines.
  Jorge Castañeda, the foreign minister under Mr. Fox, is among the chief promoters of legalization and says he believes the debate is shifting in his favor. He notes that four of six presumed presidential candidates for 2012 told Nexos that legalization should be at least considered if California approved it.
  Just as legalizing alcohol helped dismantle organized crime in the United States in the 1930s, he says, legalizing marijuana could devastate major drug trafficking organizations. While Mr. Calderón and other political leaders do not seem to embrace legalization, “what does he do on the morning of Nov. 3?” Mr. Castañeda asked.
  “It is going to be impossible to ask Mexican society to put up with the number of lives at risk and the violence for a fight that Americans, or at least Californians, would have said they don’t want to fight anymore,” he said.
  But some analysts think the debate here has given short shrift to another fundamental question: Does Mexico, which has enough trouble collecting existing tax revenue and regulating legal medications, have the institutional capacity to take on regulation of marijuana, let alone cocaine or heroin?
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  And there is the likelihood that any curb on the drug markets would drive the cartels to expand their increasingly diverse rackets in smuggling, extortion and kidnapping.
  With a chronic lack of strong anti-addiction and anticonsumption programs, Mexico would probably experience more people taking drugs and provide little help for them, said Edgardo Buscaglia, a professor at the Autonomous Technological Institute here who has studied organized crime for years.
  “To think organized crime would cease to exist is nonsense,” he said. “They are like any rational business, and they will go into other businesses for the rate on return.”
  
  Marijuana and other drugs are readily available in several neighborhoods here, “like candy,” in the words of Victor Arroyo, 24, who said he was addicted to marijuana. Without using it several times a day, he said, he gets headaches and does not feel right.
  The only change legalization would bring, he predicted, would be that consumption would be more out in the open, something he laments, since he has seen children as young as 9 smoking marijuana in the public housing project where he lives.
  “It would really be the same,” he said, “or maybe worse.”
  
  
  
  
  

bigv1976 said:

70% comes through Mexico.

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bigv1976 said:

I havent read 1 single post on here where anyone said anything about x being made in mexico but yours.

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couchlock907 said:

your mutha fucking right! if you knew anything about the drug game not oz;s and pounds .,but hundreds of kilo's you think it fly's straight from europe? why do you think the canadians got their border sealed up,and it covers from washington to maine and we cant or dont want to keep a border from cali to texas? anyway some shit from canada but mostly throuh mexico fuck go to the DEA website and read!

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gogrow said:

from your dea website you suggested.....
Illicit Distribution:
Seized MDMA in the U.S. is primarily manufactured in clandestine laboratories in the Netherlands and Belgium. MDMA destined to the U.S. from the Netherlands is transferred through Germany and Poland and smuggled into the U.S. via body carriers, by air/sea cargo, luggage, and by express mail. Another significant source country is Canada. Operation Candy Box identified an international drug trafficking organization through which up to one million MDMA tablets per month were smuggled into the U.S. A small number of MDMA clandestine laboratories have been identified operating in the U.S.

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couchlock907 said:

your mutha fucking right! if you knew anything about the drug game not oz;s and pounds .,but hundreds of kilo's you think it fly's straight from europe? why do you think the canadians got their border sealed up,and it covers from washington to maine and we cant or dont want to keep a border from cali to texas? anyway some shit from canada but mostly throuh mexico fuck go to the DEA website and read!

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gogrow said:

from your dea website you suggested.....
Illicit Distribution:
Seized MDMA in the U.S. is primarily manufactured in clandestine laboratories in the Netherlands and Belgium. MDMA destined to the U.S. from the Netherlands is transferred through Germany and Poland and smuggled into the U.S. via body carriers, by air/sea cargo, luggage, and by express mail. Another significant source country is Canada. Operation Candy Box identified an international drug trafficking organization through which up to one million MDMA tablets per month were smuggled into the U.S. A small number of MDMA clandestine laboratories have been identified operating in the U.S.

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