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what's going on people hope everyone is doin well. question on the recharge, I am currently running
-xtreme gardening mykos, for my mykos.. lol.
-Azos for the nitro fixing bacteria,
-Liquid karma for my humid acid, aminos, etc.
I was looking into Recharge and was wondering if it would sub for mykos n liquid karma?
Anything helps yall every penny.

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Jamexican said:

what's going on people hope everyone is doin well. question on the recharge, I am currently running
-xtreme gardening mykos, for my mykos.. lol.
-Azos for the nitro fixing bacteria,
-Liquid karma for my humid acid, aminos, etc.
I was looking into Recharge and was wondering if it would sub for mykos n liquid karma?
Anything helps yall every penny.

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Recharge will not be a substitute for any of those two products, all 3 products are different things.

- Mykos is mycorrhizae, a fungus that forms a symbiotic relationship with your roots. The Mykos brand is rather mediocre, there are better and cheaper options on Amazon. If you're looking to save money, I'd recommend looking for a new mycorrhizae product.
- Azos can be eliminated as it is somewhat superfluous. You can buy a bag of clover sprouts for much cheaper and they'll do the same thing. The clovers are nitrogen fixators, once your plants grow tall enough to shade the clovers you can simply pull them and let them decompose as a top dress on your pots. This will allow all the nitrogen the clovers fixated to seep into your soil over time as they decompose.
- I'm unfamiliar with Liquid Karma. I use Ful-Power for humic acid myself.

And finally onto Recharge. Recharge is essentially just a bunch of various bacteria and fungi that you water into soil to bring new life into it. If you're re-using soil, or making a new batch then Recharge is a wonderful product. I water with Recharge once every 2 weeks or so. It's a great product, but it will not replace any of the products that you listed.

this was very informative thank you very much. will look into clovers as well as a better my mykos. I tried there cal carb product n liked it very much during the heat wave we just had. what would be a good mykos from amazon.

kratos015 said:

And finally onto Recharge. Recharge is essentially just a bunch of various bacteria and fungi that you water into soil to bring new life into it. If you're re-using soil, or making a new batch then Recharge is a wonderful product. I water with Recharge once every 2 weeks or so. It's a great product, but it will not replace any of the products that you listed.

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Why not just replace Recharge with homemade EM1 and castings/compost/guano?

Jamexican said:

this was very informative thank you very much. will look into clovers as well as a better my mykos. I tried there cal carb product n liked it very much during the heat wave we just had. what would be a good mykos from amazon.

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https://www.amazon.com/BioAg-VAM-300-12-Cs/dp/B00YCD88C8/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=mycorrhizal+fungi+vam&qid=1560632780&s=gateway&sr=8-6

VAM is personally recommended by Coots, has more species of mycorrizae than any other product on the market. Good stuff, but pricey.

https://www.amazon.com/Root-Naturally-Endo-Mycorrhizae-Oz/dp/B00HVKKOEE/ref=sr_1_9?crid=RWONQE5Y8LRE&keywords=mycorrhizal+fungi&qid=1560632739&s=gateway&sprefix=myco,aps,360&sr=8-9#customerReviews

This would be the "off brand" of VAM, not as pricey but 3 less species of mycorrizae in it.

My main issue with Mykos is that you aren't getting any of the Endo Mycorrhizae species. Either product you choose, you'll notice a difference. They're small packages, but unless you're growing dozens and dozens of plants this stuff will work just fine. Especially if you're the type to start plants in their final pot. More transplants = more mycorrhizae needed.

Cali.Grown>408 said:

Why not just replace Recharge with homemade EM1 and castings/compost/guano?

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Jobs are depending on folks buying high priced stuff they don't need. Are you trying to wreck the economy?

Cali.Grown>408 said:

Why not just replace Recharge with homemade EM1 and castings/compost/guano?

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I've heard of EM1 but haven't looked into it too much to be completely honest with you. Difficult process? Worth the trouble?

I used to have a worm bin, but I didn't have a spot to keep it cool during the summers unfortunately. Now that I have a greenhouse with an evap cool wall to keep it cool, I will actually be doing a worm bin again. That being said, you know how long it takes to get a significant amount of EWC. My outdoor has ~400g of soil in use right now, it'd take me a long time to produce that much EWC!

Compost is going to be somewhat difficult to produce until my produce garden starts taking off. I'm in the middle of the desert, so I don't have much outdoor vegetation to compost unfortunately. At the moment I've got all my food scraps composting with some peat moss, but it's the same problem as the EWC in the sense that it would take years for me to produce enough compost for my outdoor needs. I'm working on it, but until I'm able to move to a place that will allow me to have livestock and grow more produce I just don't see it producing a significant amount of compost sadly.

My situation I feel like EWC would produce faster than a compost pile.

I do my best to stay away from guano as much as possible, stuff is way hot and can hurt more than help if you're not careful. Especially the Peruvian stuff That being said, I had to remove crab meal from my soil due to excess calcium in my well water so I'm going to be top dressing with 0-5-0 guano in another week or so.

Apologies for the book, but that's essentially why I go with Recharge. I know it will NEVER replace quality EWC/compost, but being in the desert in the middle of nowhere it's tough to come by. No farms selling compost, had to spent $7 per cuft of Black Gold Compost recently :/ Recharge is helpful because it just keeps the soil life going in the event of set backs.

Before I moved out here I used to live 5 minutes away from a worm farm. Only cost $20 to fill up a 5g bucket with their EWC. Fuck I miss those people.

too larry said:

Jobs are depending on folks buying high priced stuff they don't need. Are you trying to wreck the economy?

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Ok, humor me then. How do you get a compost pile started in the middle of a desert with absolutely zero vegetation lying around, and no livestock? Because I'm all ears.

kratos015 said:

I've heard of EM1 but haven't looked into it too much to be completely honest with you. Difficult process? Worth the trouble?
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Super simple and easy. Worm bins are too but I just buy my castings and have worms in my garden naturally. You should look into making EM1 though, it’s pretty simple.. But if buying Recharge is easier for you then go with that. I’ve never used it though

Cali.Grown>408 said:

Super simple and easy. Worm bins are too but I just buy my castings and have worms in my garden naturally. You should look into making EM1 though, it’s pretty simple.. But if buying Recharge is easier for you then go with that. I’ve never used it though

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I had a blast with my worm bin until my dumbass forgot to account for summers out here.. I don't buy EWC anymore because I've noticed that most EWC products on the market are subpar at best and not at all worth the markup. ~$25 per cuft is too steep when you're dealing with 100s of gallons of soil. I'd rather spend that money on CoM's Lobster Compost because I can actually trust their product.

Doesn't EM1 only cultivate a handful of microbes though? Or am I mistaken?

I just like Recharge because it's got a wide variety of microbes/fungi and is simple and effective enough. Capable of turning cheap Black Gold compost into something decent, and it's a cheap enough product that will last at least a year or two.

kratos015 said:

Ok, humor me then. How do you get a compost pile started in the middle of a desert with absolutely zero vegetation lying around, and no livestock? Because I'm all ears.

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I wasn't busting your chops. And I've no desert experience, so no help. I do find it funny that organic folks buy almost as much "product" as other growers. I guess if you are working at a good paying job, making your own might even cost you money when you do the time/cost analysis.

too larry said:

I wasn't busting your chops. And I've no desert experience, so no help. I do find it funny that organic folks buy almost as much "product" as other growers. I guess if you are working at a good paying job, making your own might even cost you money when you do the time/cost analysis.

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I use Coot's recipe, does have a semi-pricey start up cost but is beyond worth it. Only needs a handful of top dresses to keep going. I share your sentiments with people spending way too much money in organics, but sometimes it's necessary due to a lack of resources.

I have little to no weeds to pull and the only trees I've got are mesquite. Great for smoking, but the branches take way too damn long to decompose sadly. A worm bin is pretty much my only option but I don't produce enough scrap for it to produce anything substantial.

Sucks having to buy compost but I'm thankful to have that as an option.

Recharge is rebranded from terra grow.


Just use tribus or make ferments and worm castings.