I have grown out el jefe. Really dank buds and were done before week 8. Super stretchy strain, but very little foliage compared to buds. Would be a great strain to really pack into a space for a high yield. Major bud flop. I am going to be doing a run of it again after I get a fem and make clones, so im a while out since I just popped the rest of the pack. These were ordered from the tude. Mrs D was saying something about their seeds from Colorado breeders are not available from the tude so the ones I have are from thier breeders is spain? Idk so far I really like RD got some og ghost of leeroy to try out sometime too.