Quick Drying - The Other Side Of The Coin

Seamaiden said:

Al has been able to back up his statements to my own satisfaction, and I am a pretty tough audience to play to.

Just sayin'.

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ARE YOU EVEN READING THE INFORMATION


"In fresh green plants, the cannabinoids are primarily present in carboxylic acid forms, which are changed into the corresponding neutral compounds by aging or heat (for example, burning or cooking)."

AGING, you know like CURING. AGING IS CURING.

THIS MEANS CURING DOES MAKE IT MORE POTENT. WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???

Greymattertripp said:

Post lies, LOL!!!

Your calling the authors of the publications I cited liars, not me.

What would I gain from lying about this subject matter???

Peoples pot to taste better and get them higher??? LOL

Dude, your a loser, get over it. You've spent your life on forum boards, your a burnout who can't even prove a point. Your the one thats discredited. But nice try chump.

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dude get out, your just embarrassing yourself...the shit you have stated is just wrong, THC is not decarboxylated until you burn it with your lighter, or cook it in some brownies or cookies ...

000420 said:

dude get out, your just embarrassing yourself...the shit you have stated is just wrong, THC is not decarboxylated until you burn it with your lighter, or cook it in some brownies or cookies ...

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"In fresh green plants, the cannabinoids are primarily present in carboxylic acid forms, which are changed into the corresponding neutral compounds by aging or heat (for example, burning or cooking)."
SOURCE
Chemical and Botanical Aspects of Cannabis

AGING, you know like CURING. AGING IS CURING.

YOU CAN ARGUE UP IS DOWN ALL YOU WANT, YOUR STILL WRONG.

THIS MEANS CURING DOES MAKE IT MORE POTENT. WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???

Greymattertripp said:

ARE YOU EVEN READING THE INFORMATION


"In fresh green plants, the cannabinoids are primarily present in carboxylic acid forms, which are changed into the corresponding neutral compounds by aging or heat (for example, burning or cooking)."

AGING, you know like CURING. AGING IS CURING.

THIS MEANS CURING DOES MAKE IT MORE POTENT. WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???

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Hey, buddy, PISS OFF. I have said absolutely NOTHING to deserve you angling your guns towards me. But, if you're really looking for someone to have a go 'round with on reading, ability and comprehension, you've picked your gal right here.

Now, in the meantime, unless someone's really given you good reason, back the fuck off.

Greymattertripp said:

ARE YOU EVEN READING THE INFORMATION


"In fresh green plants, the cannabinoids are primarily present in carboxylic acid forms, which are changed into the corresponding neutral compounds by aging or heat (for example, burning or cooking)."

AGING, you know like CURING. AGING IS CURING.

THIS MEANS CURING DOES MAKE IT MORE POTENT. WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???

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aging makes it more potent if you like CBD.........instead of THC.......Curing is for complete uniform drying, because drying is what converts THC from its acidic to neutral and psychoactive form...although the THC does decarboxilate some what when you dry it, the decarboxylation doesn't really happen until you cook it or smoke it.

000420 said:

aging makes it more potent if you like CBD.........instead of THC.......Curing is for complete uniform drying, because drying is what converts THC from its acidic to neutral and psychoactive form...although the THC does decarboxilate some what when you dry it, the decarboxylation doesn't really happen until you cook it or smoke it.

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Carboxilated THC is THCA when its decarboxilated it means its THC and psychoative, so aging (curing) DOES decarboxilate the THCA
not as much as COOKING OR BURNING. But it DOES HAPPEN, and more evenly than if you torch the herb, and if your vaporizing like I do, this makes a huge difference in the taste and stone.

Thanks for actually reading what I posted.

Greymattertripp said:

Carboxilated THC is THCA when its decarboxilated it means its THC and psychoative, so aging (curing) DOES decarboxilate the THCA
not as much as COOKING OR BURNING. But it DOES HAPPEN, and more evenly than if you torch the herb, and if your vaporizing like I do, this makes a huge difference in the taste and stone.

Thanks for actually reading what I posted.

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I was wondering though, is pure THC less stable than THCA? Therefore it would breakdown into other cannabinoids at a much faster rate. Just a thought not a sermon . . .

NewGrowth said:

I was wondering though, is pure THC less stable than THCA? Therefore it would breakdown into other cannabinoids at a much faster rate. Just a thought not a sermon . . .

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I would imagine so, but it would take some reading to see for sure.

That is an interesting question.

You've just inspired some study.

Greymattertripp said:

so aging (curing) DOES decarboxilate the THCA
not as much as COOKING OR BURNING. But it DOES HAPPEN,

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In utterly insignificant amounts at low temperature. Even if decarboxylation did occur in any significant amount in 'curing', since we already know it happens in abundance when smoking or making cannabutter, why then do you need to do it twice?

Curing is unnecessary and does not increase potency.

Aging converts THC into CBD & CBN.

Now, call me some names to make yourself 'righter.' Be inventive- you haven't gotten past form 2 yet. You COULD call me a precopernican obscurantist, ffs.

Al B. Fuct said:

In utterly insignificant amounts at low temperature. Even if decarboxylation did occur in any significant amount in 'curing', since we already know it happens in abundance when smoking or making cannabutter, why then do you need to do it twice?

Curing is unnecessary and does not increase potency.

Aging converts THC into CBD & CBN.

Now, call me some names to make yourself 'righter.' Be inventive- you haven't gotten past form 2 yet. You COULD call me a precopernican obscurantist, ffs.

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Or a Freak... your crazy man!... LOL>..

genfranco said:

Or a Freak... your crazy man!... LOL>..

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Is he still talking???



I put him on the ignore list because its like speaking to a rock.


He is obviously wrong, anyone who is a consumer of fine cannabis and pays any attention knows curing matures the flavor and makes it more potent. No one just drys their shit and sells it/smokes it unless they care only about $$$$$/getting a quick head rush. If you cure it for too long yes it will change into CBD and CBN if he even READ my sources he would see that that is taken into account.

Anyone here that grows good shit knows what thery are doing knows to dry and then cure their cannabis. Some people never learn though.

I guess when you can't prove your false assertions, you can always fall back on wives' tales and 'what everybody else does'.

Suppositions, guesses and wives' tales are rampant in cannabis growing; just takes a few trash talkers to keep them going.

RIU readers have had a gutful of the crap from self-appointed experts who can't support an assertion with science. They know I won't put up with manure spreaders. That might have something to do with why my threads are among the most read on this board. https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/6592-get-harvest-every-2-weeks.html is past 133,000 reads and was closed a couple of months ago at 96,000. https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/94811-al-b-faqt.html gets around 425/day.

You're not going to get too far trying to convince people that I don't know what I'm doing, but hey, have a go.

And BTW, I AM a precopernican obscurantist.

I just got this from the club


This was from the streets though

Sorry you got suckered on the street deal. Grow your own and solve the problem.

Man i tell ya... I dont know what they do to the weed.. I say the same thing every time i go to the co op.... how the hell do they cure this ...c ause its dry.. but guey.... i tell yeah.. people that just dry the shit out of it and then it just crumbles up... lol... I like the dry but goey shit.. that smells good too.. I need to know what they do!!!

genfranco said:

I like the dry but goey shit.. that smells good too.. I need to know what they do!!!

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Easy, just hang dry or use a bud dryer to get the buds to the point where the outer material is quite dry, nearly crisp, but the stem within remains flexible. Then, put them in an airtight container to allow the moisture in the stem to wick to the outer part of the bud. Takes about a day for the moisture to equalise and make the bud uniformly springy and pliant.

Overdry buds burn too hot and are harsh to smoke; drying as I've just described solves that. Use of a bud dryer to remove most of the water quickly eliminates the chance of mould which may occur in hang drying.

BTW, overdrying is fixable. Put about 5ml of water on a paper towel and nest it in with the buds in an airtight container. The buds will rehydrate and again be springy and pleasant to smoke in a couple of hours.

Al B. Fuct said:

Easy, just hang dry or use a bud dryer to get the buds to the point where the outer material is quite dry, nearly crisp, but the stem within remains flexible. Then, put them in an airtight container to allow the moisture in the stem to wick to the outer part of the bud. Takes about a day for the moisture to equalise and make the bud uniformly springy and pliant.

Overdry buds burn too hot and are harsh to smoke; drying as I've just described solves that. Use of a bud dryer to remove most of the water quickly eliminates the chance of mould which may occur in hang drying.

BTW, overdrying is fixable. Put about 5ml of water on a paper towel and nest it in with the buds in an airtight container. The buds will rehydrate and again be springy and pleasant to smoke in a couple of hours.

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Do you find any negative for spraying them with water to re hydrate?... Anyone rehydrate with other shit... like lemon juice or something?

I think im gonna try that... lemon skunk my ass!!.. hehehe...

genfranco said:

Do you find any negative for spraying them with water to re hydrate?

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yeah, it's too easy to get them soppy wet with spraying instead of moving water into the buds molecule by molecule by simply exposing them to very high humidity with the 'barely-damp paper towel in a tupperware' method.

... Anyone rehydrate with other shit... like lemon juice or something?

I think im gonna try that... lemon skunk my ass!!.. hehehe...

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You could rehydrate with citrus juice or peel, but I personally prefer cannabis to taste like cannabis, not oranges, lemons etc.

Anybody else use a humidor to store buds they are currently smoking? I use one and as long as I keep the humidity around 40-45% even over dry buds that go in are re-hydrated in no time.

Damn you and your "precopernican obscurantist", Al! Still putting the meaning together in the larger context, here, but in the meantime a google search found this for you. Thanks for posting something I completely didn't understand. That always annoys/excites me

Seamaiden, got any more pics of that bike? That thing is dead sexy... or seems to be, from the thumbnail I am waiting on the fate of mine, got into a bit of a wreck last week. Some road rash and staples and I'm nearly back to form, could have been a lot worse.

This thread has been great. When my time comes to harvest, I know what I'll be doing. Some days in an ABF-style dryer, then sealed up for at least a few days. Thanks for all the great info, fdd & Al

NG: I've wondered about humidors myself. Buds in jars/baggies/containers always end up drying out in time, seems like a humidor would work out as long as you can dial in the humidity level. Anyone?