Question about distilled water, ppm, ph, cal-mag, rez swap.. HELP!

burwoodkush

burwoodkush

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BigBuddahCheese said:
No you're supporting one by the looks of one, which is your choice. Yet you take the "troll" to defend your thinking vs mine, well now it's on Mr. baggy pants.

One look at his feeble attempt at simple grammar, common sense and ethics you can assume that he is illegal or underage. I am leaning towards both, and you support him!?

No the "more bars" people have the more GOOD information they give out, so maybe when those people speak you should listen to them. I don't think you have that thinking or mental capacity, as society has probably faded those away. Yet with thought, you cast blame that they are "wrong" "trolls" "asshats" or what ever creative adjective you desire to spit out.

We can only hope son. This will be my last reply in this ghetto slang non-informative thread that is 98% of RIU and these trolls wonder "Why?" or cast blame.

Sad.
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not exactly sure what you're getting mr smarty pants, but,
if you dont like it, then go away. thats all
i dont support "him"....
i just have a serious problem with people who are full of themselves and shit.

just because somebody doesnt do it your way doesnt mean they are wrong or too young or illegal or whatever you dingleberry.
and who cares about grammer, is this F'n english class??
not all of us are as informative or informed as you are.
so start your own website.. do something else if you think 98% of RIU is non-informative,
what are you doing here??
why are you still responding?

what a jackhole, feel sorry for your kids
 
HeartlandHank

HeartlandHank

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burwoodkush said:
class act man!
funny how the more bars i've noticed.... the more of an a$$hole that person is.
that being the case PLEASE dont give me any rep....
cuz i'm not an a$$hole
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The bar thing is not always true...
The bar thing also does not mean much, as far as knowledge. I'm pretty sure most of my rep came from fart jokes. haha.
 
HeartlandHank

HeartlandHank

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burwoodkush said:
I also started hydro veggies, and THOSE I DID NOT CHECK ANYTHING! no ph, no water temps, just add nutes and topped off.
they grew and tasted awsome.
and my buds came out just fine, better than anything I've had, my peeps say the same.
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I love hearing this sort of thing. MJ grows so easy...
The best part about letting go of all the complications of book learned cannabis growing is that you can focus on what REALLY matters, imo... which is genetics..

The day I stopped messing around with complicated stuff and focused on acquiring great genetics was the day my stash really took off.

I blah blah blah it all the time... but it is all about genetics.
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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BigBuddahCheese said:
You can use same container but you will need the proper tools to monitor and adjust as necessary. Plants do release toxins as they need too so for going the whole way with the same res seems a bit extreme and you are hurting your chances for a decent harvest.

You get what you put into your grows, seems like you want to put as little in as possible. So.. you will probably get very little in the end.

I would at the minimum swap when you transitional into flower, but I see your start in growing will probably be a short lived one. Good luck, cutting corners and being lazy is not how to grow medical MMJ.
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If you keep your ppm at a low enough concentration and use water more than ferts to grow then you can run a 27 gallon rez for a whole run even displaced with five or so gallon of water filled pop bottles. Youd better have some amazing tap water though in regards to ph varience. Just keep adding small amounts of water every day w 900 ppm nutes. Sweet nugs three weeks out, test. If you like runnin a constant rez try nft with small plants. The shorter the roots have to keep on doin it the better if theres anything less than optimal conditions. IMO oh ya, four weeks out on lower harvest :):)
 

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Ninjabowler

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burwoodkush said:
no problem buddy,
I used to use R/O, only reason I do not anymore is because I got tired of hauling f'n water around lol
I use 5 Gal buckets, so i need 4Gal h2o, depending on how many i have going..... thats alot of trips for water.
currently, i fill up a couple of 5 gal buckets and have an airstone running 24/7 with some tap water.
you can find info on your tap water online i'm sure, if call call your city admin., just to make sure you dont need to treat it, or avoid it completely.
funny though, how I do the airstone thing to clear chorine/chloramines...... but the dynagro i use has some in it. hahahahaha??
yeah, i like "organic" myself, ..... just remember to always check the ingredients, the front lable is just the selling point.
hygrozyme is awesome. a friend gave some to me that he came up on,
i read what it was suppose to do, and my roots had some darker color to them, so i used it,
next day my roots turned white as heck, and the plant was more vigoruous than ever.
so i recommend it, just not every feeding, not that it would hurt anything, but your wallet lol.
which brings me to this point.....
i tried all kinds of shiznit because it says its good, and alot of people like them, ..... after trying things out,
I do not spend much, as a matter as little as I could.
for example; i would use like an entire line of something, usually the cheaper brand, depending, price wise they are all pretty similar, cept for AdvNuts.... they crazy expensive!! lol
anyways.., currently use;
dynagro grow and/or bloom for a base,
I'm putting ORKA up against ROCK SUPERCHARGER for my roots,
dynagro protekt for the silicon, ... i HAVE noticed my plants are buffer looking, and I dont need a fan to "sturdy" them up when young.
i use a little pureblend grow as a veg additive, i like the humic acids.
for flowering adds, i like GH floralicious bloom... i will be putting it up against AN super tea bloom in my current grow.
i also use some GH liquidBloom as a bulking thang, I have yet to see much if any difference with this....... it is not very expensive at least lol
i also use hygrozyme, but now only if I see any drastic discoloration of my roots, AND when I transition from veg to flower.
personally, i treat suggested use as a 100% feeding, then adjust accordingly.
depending on how my plants react, i'll push 100% from week 2 of flowering on. sometimes more if they ask me to.
I dont flush anymore, well....what i do is time it to where my last res change will be replaced in about 3 weeks.
So in the last weeks, i'll only top off with water. by that time, the girls after feeding pretty heavy and will go through that in about 1 1/2 weeks, then its just water.
I've been pondering maybe using just a slight bit of hygrozyme in the very last week, .... I'd like to keep the plants green as possible to the end.
I've tried both ways, flush, no flush, .... i do i guess acombo of both. NOBODY complains about my bud having any "chemi" taste.
man.... i've been writing too long... sorry to bore you, need to take another couple of tokes hehehehe
so , ..thats just MY take on things,
you will learn on your own as you go.
do not take anything you read here as a MUST.
you have to take into account your own environment,

"keep it comin man!" be carefull what you ask for..... you just might get it. hahahaha j/k bro

HAPPY GROWING
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Im not reading this..evaar lol
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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thegoodweed said:
OK. So I have a couple questions about my medical autoflowering DWC grow. My rez is 25-30 gallons (single rez tub)..4 small net pots with small rockwool cubes and hydroton rocks. Using Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Nutrients. Im going to be using distilled water because of purity issues. The tap water around here is the last thing I want to use, as it has way too much junk in it and the ph is all over the place. Can I do a whole grow (about 2 months) without changing the water, and only adding, or "topping off"? I know I need to adjust ph also. Im using old school ph drip dye testing method. When using distilled water, I heard that I have to add cal-mag just like using RO water. Is this a "must" and how often should I add the cal-mag? I am thinking of investing in a ppm meter also, can I do a whole grow without using a ppm meter?

Help is much appreciated!!:bigjoint:
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I believe that tap water has more trace minerals than distilled, especially prime tap water. Mainly the cal and mag is what im getting at. I bought cal magic and as per the guy in the store ive been adding one drop per litre to the mix every time ive added water. I am by no means a pro yet, far from it but i would suggest cal mag on the reg with your distilled water. Also im regards to running without a ppm meter, and not ever changing your res....just save yourself the trouble and dont even start lol. Like i said earlier, i think that youll have a much better chance if you go easy on your ppm and let the water do most of your work rather than the fertz. My ppm in the grow posted started at 250 after two weeks from clone and 150 of that ppm was tap water. Theyre up to 5 or six hundred now and the four are drinking around 3/4 of a litre a day and seem to be gobbleing up nutes just fine. I also havent touched the ph since i started either. My nutes and tap water was 6.0 when it went in and it has climbed to 7.0 over 45 days, big deal, im not worried about it. My tap water is gold so far, if yours isnt then be careful and dont even try hydro without a ppm meter. When i tell my friends (any of them) to hit a ppm without a tester and they try theyre always waaay off. I pull out the tester and show them that they usually have doubled at least what theyre shooting for. Ill probably try to run this experiment again and use higher ppm if it works ok and its going ok so far. The only time ill change the rez is in three weeks when i flush, till then let the good times roll - the Cars...
 
BeaverHuntr

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Distilled water has a PH of 7.0 anyways.. You grow in hydroponics then you want a PH of 5.5-6.0 PH 7.0 is for soil plants..Just use reverse osmosis water from the .25 cent water dispensers.
 
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thegoodweed

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BeaverHuntr said:
Distilled water has a PH of 7.0 anyways.. You grow in hydroponics then you want a PH of 5.5-6.0 PH 7.0 is for soil plants..Just use reverse osmosis water from the .25 cent water dispensers.
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do you know how much is too much ph down, because i have to adjust my res daily ??
 
burwoodkush

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hey TGD,
dont have any scientific type answers for ya, but i can tell you how it goes for me...
i dont check my ph daily, i only check when i mix'em up, and/or if i notice any problems with the plants.
now i've read something about ph adjusting itself somehow or another, again sorry for no science answer lol
so maybe thats why you see a change???? i dont know.
but anyways. when i use r/o water, I use very little ph up/down.
now when i use my tap water, i have to use about 5 times as much, something like that.
I do not own a tds meter, i have not checked my ppm ever, so if it raises ppm, doesnt seem to bother MY girls.
but thats just me.

happY growinG
 
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thegoodweed

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burwoodkush said:
hey TGD,
dont have any scientific type answers for ya, but i can tell you how it goes for me...
i dont check my ph daily, i only check when i mix'em up, and/or if i notice any problems with the plants.
now i've read something about ph adjusting itself somehow or another, again sorry for no science answer lol
so maybe thats why you see a change???? i dont know.
but anyways. when i use r/o water, I use very little ph up/down.
now when i use my tap water, i have to use about 5 times as much, something like that.
I do not own a tds meter, i have not checked my ppm ever, so if it raises ppm, doesnt seem to bother MY girls.
but thats just me.

happY growinG
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what types of strains do you mess with? ever messed with autos or anything?
 
burwoodkush

burwoodkush

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thegoodweed said:
what types of strains do you mess with? ever messed with autos or anything?
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strains.... my fav has got to be LEMON SKUNK so far.
I've done fem seeds and bagseed that i came up on.
did a couple autoflowers last season, and I have acouple in a tote right now.
i've done both indica and sativa and hydrids.
havent got to breeding just yet, not enough space, maybe time too.
but anyways, i have not ran into any strain that has required much difference in the way i raise'em.
I would like to pick up a "difficult" strain to grow, see how that goes ya know.
check out my pics n stuff.. i have some random shiznit in there of things from seasons past.

HAPPY GROWING
 
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