Prune for no Stress/Weak Growth!

Alpha, Day 13.


Alpha has had her side branches removed, without any slowdowns in vigor or strength.
They were removed at each point with a razor blade, before they were more than 1-2mm long.

All of this clone's energy has been shifted into Roots, A strong Canopy (Bear Clawing is my fault, don't know what's happening.)
and of course, Fat flowers!


This is just one example of how you can prune for no stress, the possibilities are endless.
In this particular scenario, she is shaped as a SOG style clone with a single cola.

C.Indica said:

They were removed at each point with a razor blade, before they were more than 1-2mm long.

All of this clone's energy has been shifted into Roots, A strong Canopy (Bear Clawing is my fault, don't know what's happening.)
and of course, Fat flowers!

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You just fucked up "energy" production by removing leaves.

This is just one example of how you can prune for no stress, the possibilities are endless.
In this particular scenario, she is shaped as a SOG style clone with a single cola.

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This is one example of how you induce stress. Tell ya what, I'll remove both of your legs and you tell me how it effects your mobility.

Listen here you piece of shit,
Get the fuck out of my thread with your negative bullshit and smartass revenge attitude.

I thought about it for a second, but I don't even want anything useful you have to say.
I've been watching you troll around like a fucking 13 year old for months now, who do you think you are? You are a human being, on planet earth.

Get out.

And for the record, that quote is describing how I removed branches from the side of the stalk.

There will of course be some stress, but when removing such a small portion of undeveloped tissue, there will be no slowdown in growth.

Now fuck off.

C.Indica said:

Alpha, Day 13.
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Alpha has had her side branches removed, without any slowdowns in vigor or strength.
They were removed at each point with a razor blade, before they were more than 1-2mm long.

All of this clone's energy has been shifted into Roots, A strong Canopy (Bear Clawing is my fault, don't know what's happening.)
and of course, Fat flowers!


This is just one example of how you can prune for no stress, the possibilities are endless.
In this particular scenario, she is shaped as a SOG style clone with a single cola.

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Your plant looks TERRIBLY UNHAPPY!

If that's the best ya got, you should first learn the basics before trying to pass out any advise. Just my $.02

Rj41 said:

Your plant looks TERRIBLY UNHAPPY!

If that's the best ya got, you should first learn the basics before trying to pass out any advise. Just my $.02

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Don't worry it was overwatering, figured that out.
First time with the deep skinny containers.
The point is the flower though.

And the same method was applied for 5 colas in the journal below, it works great, see for yourself.

It's a perfectly valid practice to remove suckers(not the leaves whose axes they grow out of) to focus growth on the remaining shoots. While you may have a bigger cola, or a prize winning pumpkin/tomato/insert vegetable here... It's detrimental to yield overall, and colas look good but that's about it.

The only reason I'd see for doing this on cannabis is where you'd have about 9 plants per square foot.

C.Indica said:

Don't worry it was overwatering, figured that out.
First time with the deep skinny containers.
The point is the flower though.

And the same method was applied for 5 colas in the journal below, it works great, see for yourself.

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All this performance you think you're getting by removing branches, etc. is really only in your head.
Somewhere along the way someone gave you confused advice that you believed and are now putting into practice.

Personally, I don't think you know enough yet about horticulture to be telling anybody anything.

Rj41 said:

Your plant looks TERRIBLY UNHAPPY!

If that's the best ya got, you should first learn the basics before trying to pass out any advise. Just my $.02

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That's what happens when you lose your "energy".

Afka said:

It's a perfectly valid practice to remove suckers(not the leaves whose axes they grow out of) to focus growth on the remaining shoots. While you may have a bigger cola, or a prize winning pumpkin/tomato/insert vegetable here... It's detrimental to yield overall, and colas look good but that's about it.

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If it's green, it has chlorophyll, chloroplasts, etc. and is making food for the plant. Leave it alone. There is no such thing as a "sucker". That's bad advice coming from Grandma and her tomato patch.

Big colas = big production. It's only natural.

oops almost fed the troll

Afka said:

It's a perfectly valid practice to remove suckers(not the leaves whose axes they grow out of) to focus growth on the remaining shoots. While you may have a bigger cola, or a prize winning pumpkin/tomato/insert vegetable here... It's detrimental to yield overall, and colas look good but that's about it.

The only reason I'd see for doing this on cannabis is where you'd have about 9 plants per square foot.

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The point isn't to isolate for a single cola.. that's just what this clone happens to be going through.

The point is you can pick out which branches you want in the early stages.

Let's say you have a 2" tall clone. It has 5 leaves.
You top it here, and keep 5 branches.
Removing all of those 5 branches side branches, until the plant is say two feet tall.
Now the plant has 5 "colas"
So you plant it outdoors near sulstice,
and by the time it's flowering it became a tree, with 5 massive limbs, supporting dozens and dozens of colas.

Just another example.
You can manipulate it however you want, personally, this grow I have going on right now is a joke. I'm killing time until I can plug in my 400w and go back to bushes.

Rj41 said:

All this performance you think you're getting by removing branches, etc. is really only in your head.
You need to use your imagination on this part, you manipulate it however you want.. Not necessarily a single cola.
Read the above reply, you can do whatever you want with this.. Definately not in my head either.
Somewhere along the way someone gave you confused advice that you believed and are now putting into practice.
No, I combined a few different techniques, and some common sense, and wound up with a very 'general' concept of pruning.
It's very hard to explain it to you guys the way it is in my head, I'm trying.

Personally, I don't think you know enough yet about horticulture to be telling anybody anything.
Personally, I think you're an ass with this comment. Why don't you read this shit and think about it for a second, instead of trolling around.

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Uncle Ben said:

That's what happens when you lose your "energy".



If it's green, it has chlorophyll, chloroplasts, etc. and is making food for the plant. Leave it alone. There is no such thing as a "sucker". That's bad advice coming from Grandma and her tomato patch.

The removed leaves were yellow, now leave this thread.
Big colas = big production. It's only natural.

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The removed leaves turned yellow because they were grown sideways in a cheap ass Dr. Pepper bottle. Word is that late at night you can hear Alpha's ghost moaning for the return of her baby's leaves that some butcher hacked during a full moon.

Next time, try a Pepsi bottle.

@c.indica...... sorry you got so butt-hurt over my not stroking your ego.

Seriously, read up on the basics.
You haven't even got a grip on simple watering yet and you're trying to tell others what to do?????

Man up and start accepting the truth - you're still pretty much clueless.

Rj41 said:

@c.indica...... sorry you got so butt-hurt over my not stroking your ego.

Seriously, read up on the basics.
You haven't even got a grip on simple watering yet and you're trying to tell others what to do?????

Man up and start accepting the truth - you're still pretty much clueless.

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I'm afraid you're clueless.
You come into a thread, and suddenly based off one picture of one plant on one day, decide everything you know about me?



I know how to water a fucking plant, I garden as well.

I just didn't cut enough drainage into this deep container.
Simple mistake, which in turn caused her to bear claw, while I made yet another mistake, and began to flush to save a false "overfert"

Now that I've added the drainage, she looks remarkably better day after day, and that flower just keeps getting fatter.
Now I can begin to add nutes again and fix the DEficiency she's been having all along.


Look at the journal in my signature if you don't think I know the basics.
Why are you such a troll? Do you think this is high school competition for social bullshit?

So far you've done nothing but insult me for no reason, if you haven't got something nice to say,
then go with Uncle Ben and get the hell out of here.

If you want big colas and big buds get rid of that Rube Goldberg kiddiewinkie setup and get yourself some big pots, quality reflective material and a 600-watt or 1000-watt HID light and do it right.

Brick Top said:

If you want big colas and big buds get rid of that Rube Goldberg kiddiewinkie setup and get yourself some big pots, quality reflective material and a 600-watt or 1000-watt HID light and do it right.

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Does ANYBODY READ?
I'm doing this grow to PASS TIME as I wait until I purchase my ballast and hood.

I have plenty of flowerpots from 4" to 5gal.


I'm planning a 6' tall cabinet, painted smooth white on the inside, with a 400w light
and 4 plants in 5gal buckets.


Alright? but that won't happen soon.
Excellent movie by the way.

C.Indica said:

I'm planning a 6' tall cabinet, painted smooth white on the inside, with a 400w light
and 4 plants in 5gal buckets.

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Have you figured out what usable growing height that will leave you? Start with your 6' and subtract the height of your 5-gallon "buckets." From that figure subtract the height of your reflective hood. From that figure subtract the number of inches between your reflective hood and the top of your cabinet when your light is raised as high as it will be able to be raised. From that figure subtract the minimum number of inches that you will need to be able to maintain between your light and the tops of your plants.

What is left, that number of inches is your usable growing height ... and it will shrink down the 6' you start with considerably and not leave you with a great deal of usable height.

Brick Top said:

Have you figured out what usable growing height that will leave you? Start with your 6' and subtract the height of your 5-gallon "buckets." From that figure subtract the height of your reflective hood. From that figure subtract the number of inches between your reflective hood and the top of your cabinet when your light is raised as high as it will be able to be raised. From that figure subtract the minimum number of inches that you will need to be able to maintain between your light and the tops of your plants.

What is left, that number of inches is your usable growing height ... and it will shrink down the 6' you start with considerably and not leave you with a great deal of usable height.

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Thanks for the advice, but I'm a step ahead of you.

I've been planning on paper for months and months, constantly upgrading and changing my blueprints.
By the time I build the thing it'll be extremely planned out.

6' (72")
-14" (5g pot, tallest height container, period)
58"
-12" Reflector hood, with whatever remaining height for air flow above hood.
46"
400w light, we'll say about 16" of space before the canopy, just to be on the safe side.
30", but with proper ventilation I could probably have the light about 1' away.

30" of plant is plenty.

Day 17 Flowering; Alpha!

Day 18 Flowering; Xena!


She's looking much better. New leaves are emerging perfectly, no clawing. The old clawed fan leaves don't seem to be straightening out much more.

[video=youtube;2BWWotMZCPI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BWWotMZCPI[/video]

Day 28 Flowering; Alpha!


Look at that unruly flower, trying to show off to us.
This with less than 60w CFL.

Day 37 Flowering; Xena!
Here she is a few days before flowering;

And here she is on day 37!