the answer is yes. an apache 600 has been shown to produce better quality flowers and yield compared to a good quality 1K HPS in a controlled side by side. These aren't "false boasting claims" its documented on rollitup.
Proof led lights work 2x2 tent Skush
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jacksthc
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looks like leds are better in flower than I thought but as you said the light spead is not very good so thats a bad point, if you want a little less yeild and better resin content, trichome development then hps you should really try mh as its a lot better than hps and mh still covers a larger canopy than the led from what your saying
I don't like veging under hps because there crap for veg, cfl and mh give me much better results
if you veg with hps the shoots strech and you get a lot of gaps between the nodes
HockeyBeard
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Organic? Synthetic? How much was the power bill each month? 17k Profit my ass, you conveniently leave out all the other operating costs.
HockeyBeard
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And I'm not here arguing that HID CAN'T (that'd be a losing argument)... I'm saying there is another way that is extremely comparable and has proven benefits. What do you know about light temperature? What's your opinion on multi-point lighting?
Darth Vapour
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byy who on you tube ??? like i said i there is no lab results then take the advice as with a grain of salt potency resin content is strain related sure you my be able to influence it but the truth is not by much here look at the frost on this hid grow this was a 5 plant grow over just under 5 pounds dry but look strain is pure power hid grown
jacksthc
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so can a single led can get a better yeild than gavita pro 1000 ?
HockeyBeard
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Also - Are those two examples the same grower? In the same room? With the same strain? Same feed schedule? Same Water Schedule?
If not, you can't make the argument, from a scientific, controlled variable standpoint, like the Apache vs. HID side by side did.
If not, you can't make the argument, from a scientific, controlled variable standpoint, like the Apache vs. HID side by side did.
yes yes yes yes and yes
HockeyBeard
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A single LED fixture? I bet if I made a lamp designed to cover a comparable footprint (4x4?), it'd be damn close and I'd be willing to bet that the LED bud looked better.
a single led as well as a single 1K hps has crappy distribution
HockeyBeard
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Exactly. A properly designed LED panel has much better light spread with minimal to no hot spots, unlike HID. Wanna know why people prefer to SCRoG with LED? That's why, comparable PAR throughout the canopy.
HockeyBeard
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I find it absolutely hilarious that you're over here talking about LAB RESULTS, yet you grab and pull from different, unrelated grows from different farmers in different rooms, running different strains, probably different nutes, using different training techniques.
When you can show me someone blowing away LED within a controlled setup such as that, then I'll listen. But until then, I'm going to go off of my personal experience. This summer, before we made the switch to all LED, we had HPS running in the room with the LED. Same strains, same feed schedules. Plants were always extremely similar. Yields were very comparable. But then one weekend while my friend was out of town, the AC unit took a shit with like 2 weeks to harvest. The ones under HPS got burnt up. They didn't die, recovered a little bit, and weren't a total disaster. The ones under the LED? Couldn't tell they were stressed at all, the buds were gorgeous, and smoked way better. It was then, when he decided (as did I) that we'd be 100% LED from then on.
jacksthc
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Darth Vapour
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whats not to count as in profit 3 k 120 per month lets round it up to 160 for others fans exhaust,, 2300 a pound what week 5 and flipping from a 2" clone both organic in veg and chem in flower boosters etc not hard to figure out no matter what still made 16,000 profit 3 shots in winter do the math that is what i call efficient
testiclees
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keep wating
Darth Vapour
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every picture except first one is mine do not believe me look for Dr Fever see if he pops up on this site that is me fool
jacksthc
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gavita pro 1000 would cover a 5ft x 5ft canopy and light would pentrashion the plants canopy 3ft
not sure a single led could match this
HockeyBeard
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And you're comparing to someone who might not have your experience, might have different environmental constraints, who might be using different products. Comparing your results to his is not fair. They're called variables. I was referring to your grow vs. the video you had posted, in case you're having trouble following me.
Darth Vapour
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then know one can right unless its a complete side by side we all get the same answers as well there more efficient you get better quality , then you get well if it was watt per watt then led would kill it hmm lets see here are 700 watt mars killing 600 De's ?? nope but then most will say well that is not a fair statement being only 340 true watts is being WTF a excuse for every angle has become moot
right owe it runs cooler there fore no need for AC lol yeah so i never ran ac in not one of my rooms ever only Dehueys and humidifiers / foggers so you stick any light source into a sealed room its going to produce heat so then one must ask ok might not throw off as much heat as a hid but HEAT IS HEAT and there fore needs to be vented and controled
HockeyBeard
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One single bulb could not, you are correct. But the conversation has never been about one single bulb. You would build a fixture that would incorporate multiple lamps.