Bird Gymnastics
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You would have to be growing for quite some time to produce that cost, unless you had a Walmart super center as a grow op. I can agree that over a period of time the cost goes down but not that drastically.
price changes since law past
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jjlongo
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I see your point that the numbers don't exactly crunch, but what is a patient bringing to the equation?
If i were to spend all that time, money and outlay of inherent risks associated with growing medical marijuana, what are you contributing to the equation? On top of the $50, (actually i would just ask you to keep that) would you come cut my grass, groom my dogs, clean my carpets, detail a few automobiles, install an attic fan for me?
I guess what i am saying is, for $50/oz why wouldn't i just keep it all to myself and GIVE it to my legal friends. What would my motivation be to offer it outside of my tight circle of friends?
If i were to spend all that time, money and outlay of inherent risks associated with growing medical marijuana, what are you contributing to the equation? On top of the $50, (actually i would just ask you to keep that) would you come cut my grass, groom my dogs, clean my carpets, detail a few automobiles, install an attic fan for me?
I guess what i am saying is, for $50/oz why wouldn't i just keep it all to myself and GIVE it to my legal friends. What would my motivation be to offer it outside of my tight circle of friends?
We are cometely neglecting oppurtunity costs. An opportunity cost is the resource costs associated with doing something and not doing something else. For example when investing money say in grow equipment, the opportunity cost is what I am losing out on by using my money for that investment. I could invest that money somewhere else and could make a larger profit, the missed out profit is an opportunity cost. So while we can't charge for hours worked there is an opportunity cost associated with the time we spend on our grows. If I did not grow I could probably have time and resources to work at least a part time job. The opportunity cost here is not only the lost revenue from not working the a job but also something less tangible such as work experience or even access to professionals in my field of study. Growing is a very time consuming activity and therefore there are many many opportunity costs. But again all of this does not really matter because costs have little to do with market prices.
the tens of thousands in student loans better be fucking worth something. lol.
Bird Gymnastics
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With the statement Tom Horne made, I think every dispensary will Be taxing as much as possible since there is such a higher risk now. I would love to see ounces of top shelf for 2-300 per oz...but that is being too hopeful.
BeaverHuntr
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They will do whatever Cali does. Probably increase the price 15% too. they are all gonna be in direct competition with eachother so they will probably have top shelf 350-400 hundo a zone
Lucius Vorenus
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Never said it wasn't. But I bet you can't show me anywhere in nature a plant gets 1500ppms for 2-4hrs a day
BeaverHuntr
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Show me anywhere in nature where a plant receives sun light from a HPS bulb.. CO2 is for indoor grows duhhh
More co2 = more photosynthesis plain and simple (without getting into a book long post)
light is food for the plants the co2 makes your plants eat more light
So in a nut shell increased co2 means increased photosynthesis to a certain point, thats why every one stops at 1500 PPM of co2. You're a care giver and you dont even know this shit.
Lucius Vorenus
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I'll try to break it down like a retard for ya. Many people say that plants that have been growing using Co2 are not as high of a quality of THC as ones that were grown without.
There ya go.
nowhere can you show me any proof that Co2 grows better quality Cannabis. It is for growing higher yielding Cannabis. I use it, I like it, but I can't honestly say that my herb is better than when I grew with a custom spectrum T5 setup. In actuality my herb was better and more potent when I did grow with T5's.
Your'e a Caregiver and you don't even know this shit! LOL
BeaverHuntr
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I'm not a care giver dummy. And when did anyone say Co2 makes better cannabis ??? Who wrote that? Wait thats what Lucius does talks about shit he doesnt know anything about. I use it all the time and sometimes I see buds that are better than mine and the grower didnt use co2 has nothing to do with appearance of buds obviously you have a hard time reading.. Increased levels of Co2 = more photosynthesis plain and simple. SO continue growing your plants while not being able to comprehend the importance of photosynthesis you really sound like you know what you are talking about. God damn youre dumb.
colonuggs
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In reality....$50 a oz is probabaly the tax the state will imply if the totally legalized.....then theres the cost of the product
Bird Gymnastics
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I just think you got better lucius. c02 tends to make my bud better but it could be my imagination. No tests to prove it...yet.
i dont think co2 reduces quality if used correctly i think it is ver very hard to use co2 100% exactly the plant wants it. it would take a strain and environment that a grower is extremely familiar with to optimize co2. it is easy to make your plant grow bigger by just adding co2 but hard to know when the plant wants exactly what levels.
oh and LV if you think your full spectrum t5 gave you a better product then supplement your light spectrum with an led or a MH later in flower.
oh and LV if you think your full spectrum t5 gave you a better product then supplement your light spectrum with an led or a MH later in flower.
1337hacker
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wow... I don't even know what to say about what I am reading...
First off, just from a pure scientific standpoint, the only way you can make a statement based on quality, yield, or anything, is to first establish a control. After that, to test for instance, Co2, you must only manipulate that one variable, while leaving everything else exactly the same in your control test, to compare the two.
Just from the standpoint from where I am sitting, I can see science being blatantly ignored. Instead, I see people making blanket statements they have no true understanding of.
Even a link to an article, or an inference to a book would be a start, but literally shit is just being pulled out of people's asses. Let's all take a step back here, and post facts only, for all of our benefit.
First off, just from a pure scientific standpoint, the only way you can make a statement based on quality, yield, or anything, is to first establish a control. After that, to test for instance, Co2, you must only manipulate that one variable, while leaving everything else exactly the same in your control test, to compare the two.
Just from the standpoint from where I am sitting, I can see science being blatantly ignored. Instead, I see people making blanket statements they have no true understanding of.
Even a link to an article, or an inference to a book would be a start, but literally shit is just being pulled out of people's asses. Let's all take a step back here, and post facts only, for all of our benefit.
Bird Gymnastics
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I am speaking merely from personal preference. When I refer to no tests being done, I mean by a chromograph, to actually get the percentages of the cannabis being tested. With out those facts, I feel I have no evidence besides what I have noticed from my experiences.
Dignan Redux
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Prices in my neighborhood have come down. Quality hasn't changed much.
UnderBelly
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They only take up large quantities of CO2 during heavy photosynthesis, so if your rain system is on in the dark, you're mostly wasting gas.
This is an obvious dilemma for ventilation. You want to vent heavily during the same period that you want CO2. But then, if you have CO2, you don't have to vent much (or at all, really). It worked ok for us to put a carbon filter in the room outside the tent, cool the light with a duct to a fan outside the room. So the carbon filter takes up the air from the room and uses it to cool the light, which then exhausts, only when the light was on. This also limits the opportunity for stuff like bugs and mold spores to get into the tent, and lets you fill the tent with CO2 to your heart's delight... The only problem we had was too high humidity in a sealed-ish tent.