President obama

ThatGuy1985

ThatGuy1985

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With recent talks about the need to restructure the us medical program, and the fact president obama has said before he believes in the decriminalization of the good old mj, who here thinks it will actually happen this time?
 
The Son of Man

The Son of Man

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the only way he's going to do something is if a stoner takes over the operation of his teleprompters and puts it on the screen for the empty suit to read---seriously---he uses them for two minute speeches---you could get him to say anything you wanted like Ron Burgandy :)
 
kingtrip

kingtrip

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The Son of Man said:
the only way he's going to do something is if a stoner takes over the operation of his teleprompters and puts it on the screen for the empty suit to read---seriously---he uses them for two minute speeches---you could get him to say anything you wanted like Ron Burgandy :)
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"I'm Ron Burgundy?"
 
jrh72582

jrh72582

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The Son of Man said:
the only way he's going to do something is if a stoner takes over the operation of his teleprompters and puts it on the screen for the empty suit to read---seriously---he uses them for two minute speeches---you could get him to say anything you wanted like Ron Burgandy :)
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He rarely uses a teleprompter. That's a fact. But - surprise, surprise, SoM is spinning his one-sided, blind rhetoric.

I have to hate democrats and like republicans because that's what mommy and daddy did! Boo to free-thinking...

Back to the issue - the legalization of medical marijuana is taking a back-seat to all the other issues right now. It's definitely not on his priority list. He called off the federal dogs and wrote a piece on possible taxation of legalized marijuana, but that's all. I honestly don't foresee the federal government stepping in at all. States will decide what they want. The only thing Obama will do is to tell the feds to stop raiding the dispensaries, which he already did. That's my two cents.

Disclaimer: I'm NOT a democrat nor a republican. Under one regime, it's man exploiting man and under the other regime, it's the other way around... Put it this way - anything is better than Bush/Rove/Cheney/Satan.
 
Arrid

Arrid

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He has said he only wants to criminalize those abusing the drug, he's perfectly fine with those using it for medial reasons..He will stick by it.
 
ThatGuy1985

ThatGuy1985

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lol to that son of man

but seriously are teleprompters really that different from notes i mean nobody ever really sees what is on them compared to what he is saying.

Even though he does use a teleprompter as a big crutch i dont think i could be an eloquent speaker with or without one
 
jrh72582

jrh72582

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The teleprompter has only been used in his recent speeches (last year or so). Yes, he has very recently become dependent upon it, but most presidents have texts of some sort to rely on (screen media certainly has advanced over the years).

The point is that he's been giving speeches for quite some time and only began experimenting with teleprompters last April. Say what you will about his policies, but its quite difficult to deny his powerful rhetoric and presence. I'm a professor of rhetoric at a large state college and take it from me - the man can speak. He doesn't need teleprompters - he's merely showing an awareness of audience and occasion. That being said, calling a man a hollow suit simply because he uses a teleprompter is ill logic. He has policies that he hashes out and speaks about them.

BTW - he's been the only president in recent history to actually provide detailed notes and outlines to his speechwriter before the guy writes them. He knows his shit, but is willing to back down and cede to other sources when needed. How does this make him hollow if he still creates the ideas himself. Medium as a metaphor man...
 
Arrid

Arrid

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A lot of people have said Obama will be bad for America but the stuff he is pulling lately has been radical..he's pulled all the documents out about Bush signing agreements about Americans loosing their rights with regards to the constitution? (i may be wrong on the wording as i'm not american..)
 
The Son of Man

The Son of Man

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ThatGuy1985 said:
lol to that son of man

but seriously are teleprompters really that different from notes i mean nobody ever really sees what is on them compared to what he is saying.

Even though he does use a teleprompter as a big crutch i dont think i could be an eloquent speaker with or without one
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the whole point of giving a speech is to interact with the audience and read the audience body language---by using the teleprompter he might as well just mail the transcript---because we can read too :)

The speeches have no improvisation and when question and answer time comes---he either bolts or calls on the majority of intellectual pussies that pretty much agree with him and as a result he's an empty suit that can't really defend the stuff he's putting out there his army of bureaucrats put together.

Basically speeches are where the public is supposed to see the real person---and the teleprompter makes it all fake or faker.
 
jrh72582

jrh72582

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The Son of Man said:
the whole point of giving a speech is to interact with the audience and read the audience body language---by using the teleprompter he might as well just mail the transcript---because we can read too :)

The speeches have no improvisation and when question and answer time comes---he either bolts or calls on the majority of intellectual pussies that pretty much agree with him and as a result he's an empty suit that can't really defend the stuff he's putting out there his army of bureaucrats put together.

Basically speeches are where the public is supposed to see the real person---and the teleprompter makes it all fake or faker.
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So how is a teleprompter different from note cards? Explain because you're certainly not making sense. The only thing you're communicating is that you hate anything and everything with the label 'liberal' or 'democrat'. Seriously.......note cards have words and text. A teleprompter has words and text. They're words. How does the medium through which these words appear affect the speaker and his interaction with audience?

I teach this shit every day - why won't you at least consider a theory that has absolute validity and agreement among all the scholars? Your lens through which you view the world is SO small. I feel bad for you.
 
The Son of Man

The Son of Man

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Arrid said:
A lot of people have said Obama will be bad for America but the stuff he is pulling lately has been radical..he's pulled all the documents out about Bush signing agreements about Americans loosing their rights with regards to the constitution? (i may be wrong on the wording as i'm not american..)
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that's true---but it was right after 911---then the patriot act legalized it---the terrorists were at war with us for a while and we weren't hardly even paying attention to them. The planes hit and we had zero intelligence and few leads to track them down and prevent anything else from happening---so the fastest way to do it was suspend those rules---wrong during peace time, but in attack/war situations fuck it I want them to find out what the fuck is up---right now! :)

It was a major dick move by Obama to release that stuff---every president has made decisions in the legal gray area---he will make his too---and the way he treated the British was also a major dick move---and also the way he sent a letter to Russia made him look like a chump.

That's everything he's done to piss me off this week :)
 
kingtrip

kingtrip

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jrh72582 said:
The teleprompter has only been used in his recent speeches (last year or so). Yes, he has very recently become dependent upon it, but most presidents have texts of some sort to rely on (screen media certainly has advanced over the years).

The point is that he's been giving speeches for quite some time and only began experimenting with teleprompters last April. Say what you will about his policies, but its quite difficult to deny his powerful rhetoric and presence. I'm a professor of rhetoric at a large state college and take it from me - the man can speak. He doesn't need teleprompters - he's merely showing an awareness of audience and occasion. That being said, calling a man a hollow suit simply because he uses a teleprompter is ill logic. He has policies that he hashes out and speaks about them.

BTW - he's been the only president in recent history to actually provide detailed notes and outlines to his speechwriter before the guy writes them. He knows his shit, but is willing to back down and cede to other sources when needed. How does this make him hollow if he still creates the ideas himself. Medium as a metaphor man...
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The Son of Man

The Son of Man

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jrh72582 said:
So how is a teleprompter different from note cards? Explain because you're certainly not making sense. The only thing you're communicating is that you hate anything and everything with the label 'liberal' or 'democrat'. Seriously.......note cards have words and text. A teleprompter has words and text. They're words. How does the medium through which these words appear affect the speaker and his interaction with audience?

I teach this shit every day - why won't you at least consider a theory that has absolute validity and agreement among all the scholars? Your lens through which you view the world is SO small. I feel bad for you.
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If you teach this stuff like you claim---lol---the note cards are an outline---you have to connect the dots with you own thought/reasoning on the fly. This creates a situation where the speaker feeds off the audience and vice versa and on a rare occasion allows the real thoughts to come out---think Joe Biden---but you already knew this stuff---because you teach it :)
 
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