Potency differences between phenotypes

bertaluchi said:

I work in a major medical production facility and I can tell you that finding 20%thc is not hard if you are sourcing your seeds from a reputable producer. Almost all 10 packs will have a solid 20% mother. The issue is finding one with great taste, smell, and bag appeal that also has high thc. I would suggest growing 25-35 seeds of each strain to find a real winner. Good luck dude!

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Finally, a real answer, thank you.

Wow, a lot of people on here like giving unrequested pessimistic business advice. I know the costs, and I've done the research. @BigHornBuds No, it doesn't cost 100k to get a licence if you have a brain and can write the paperwork yourself. You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions.
@Khyber420 that may have been the case with medicinal cannabis, but from what I've read the new licences will allow an influx of black market genetics.
Thanks bertaluchi, that was the info I needed.

johnnynice said:

Wow, a lot of people on here like giving unrequested pessimistic business advice. I know the costs, and I've done the research. @BigHornBuds No, it doesn't cost 100k to get a licence if you have a brain and can write the paperwork yourself. You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions.
@Khyber420 that may have been the case with medicinal cannabis, but from what I've read the new licences will allow an influx of black market genetics.
Thanks bertaluchi, that was the info I needed.

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No, but if you hire a consultant n pay them that you’ll get your lic.
With Your questions about pheno types ,
(Lack of grow knowledge)
I’ll give you a big heads up.

YOUR GONNA FAIL.

BigHornBuds said:

No, but if you hire a consultant n pay them that you’ll get your lic.
With Your questions about pheno types ,
(Lack of grow knowledge)
I’ll give you a big heads up.

YOUR GONNA FAIL.

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With your general shitty attitude, it looks like you've failed at a lot in life already. Maybe keep your toxicity to yourself and stick to answering thread questions you can actually help with, if there are any.

johnnynice said:

With your general shitty attitude, it looks like you've failed at a lot in life already. Maybe keep your toxicity to yourself and stick to answering thread questions you can actually help with, if there are any.

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Listen skip, I can see I hurt your feeling ,
Sorry there snow flake .
You said you don’t live in Canada, you are so behind others with the same goal,
Hiring a consultant would help you.

If you don’t know the answer to a simple pheno type question, you should not think you can run a commercial grow ,


Who am I?
I cut my bud in a month , then you’ve cut in your life .

But please, by all means , come here n throw your money away.
Heard there’s a good deal on CFLs at Walmart.

So I’m sorry you can’t handle a real answer
Go back to dreaming .

BigHornBuds said:

Listen skip, I can see I hurt your feeling ,
Sorry there snow flake .
You said you don’t live in Canada, you are so behind others with the same goal,
Hiring a consultant would help you.

If you don’t know the answer to a simple pheno type question, you should not think you can run a commercial grow ,


Who am I?
I cut my bud in a month , then you’ve cut in your life .

But please, by all means , come here n throw your money away.
Heard there’s a good deal on CFLs at Walmart.

So I’m sorry you can’t handle a real answer
Go back to dreaming .

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Wow man, you're really a miserable guy. I feel bad for you. You can cut all the bud you want in a month, you'd still be a miserable prick. Go back and read the original post, did I ask "can I succeed as a business in Canada?". If you could have given a real answer to my question, you would have. Do you just look for threads to ruin by giving your asshole opinions? Give relevant answers or gtfo, you are contributing nothing. No need to reply, find something better to do with your time, you really had no place commenting on this thread in the first place

johnnynice said:

Wow man, you're really a miserable guy. I feel bad for you. You can cut all the bud you want in a month, you'd still be a miserable prick. Go back and read the original post, did I ask "can I succeed as a business in Canada?". If you could have given a real answer to my question, you would have. Do you just look for threads to ruin by giving your asshole opinions? Give relevant answers or gtfo, you are contributing nothing. No need to reply, find something better to do with your time, you really had no place commenting on this thread in the first place

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Listen to her , listen too her
Does it itch?
All the sand in your vagina?

Khyber420 said:

Have you applied for a license? My understanding is starting material must be purchased from a licensed producer. Black market strains can't be grown, ie it's not so simple as just sprouting a ton of internet seeds and yea health Canada inspectors check on this. It's a highly regulated market, even natural pesticides have to be on health Canadas approved list.

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That’s a wrong statement you can bring in whatever genetics you want as long as they are present on day 1

I’m just going to chime in here, As someone going through the process.

First off. Just popping random seeds to give customers variety is going to be a steep fall to loose a million dollars.

You need to hunt the top genetics right off the start and have them ready day 1. Focus on 1 strain and get damn good at growing it. Lp’s Won’t want to purchase a kilo here and there of random shit every month. They want a good strain and good monthly production. Jumping around and trying to sell random shit to the Lp’s Will just annoy them.

And with the canopy limit on the micros you won’t be producing much anyways compared to the LP’s so grow one strain and grow it well

Sparky123 said:

That’s a wrong statement you can bring in whatever genetics you want as long as they are present on day 1

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Are you sure about that? My understanding is that has changed.

You may even want to go as far as to align yourself with a Canadian breeder to supply you some stable genetics day 1. You’ll pay and pay well for it but at least it gets you operational day 1

Khyber420 said:

Are you sure about that? My understanding is that has changed.

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Very positive about that. That quote was a myth and health Canada amended the rules when cannabis became legal. It’s in the new regulations I just don’t feel like digging out the exact requirements

Sparky123 said:

Very positive about that. That quote was a myth and health Canada amended the rules when cannabis became legal. It’s in the new regulations I just don’t feel like digging out the exact requirements

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I hope so, last I looked at the regulations they archived the section on starting material and the one time exemption and put up a note saying "revised information is being developed and will be available shortly" (something along those lines). I read that as they are going to close that option and force micros to by shitty genetics from existing LPs. I guarantee Cannabis is going to go the way of Monsanto, genetic patents and big GMO within 20 years.

Khyber420 said:

I hope so, last I looked at the regulations they archived the section on starting material and the one time exemption and put up a note saying "revised information is being developed and will be available shortly" (something along those lines). I read that as they are going to close that option and force micros to by shitty genetics from existing LPs. I guarantee Cannabis is going to go the way of Monsanto, genetic patents and big GMO within 20 years.

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I can’t find how to add a photo off my phone but believe me they have changed it. It’s about the only advantage any microhas over the Lp’s. proper selection is key though as it’s uniqueness that will make you stand out

Sparky123 said:

I’m just going to chime in here, As someone going through the process.

First off. Just popping random seeds to give customers variety is going to be a steep fall to loose a million dollars.

You need to hunt the top genetics right off the start and have them ready day 1. Focus on 1 strain and get damn good at growing it. Lp’s Won’t want to purchase a kilo here and there of random shit every month. They want a good strain and good monthly production. Jumping around and trying to sell random shit to the Lp’s Will just annoy them.

And with the canopy limit on the micros you won’t be producing much anyways compared to the LP’s so grow one strain and grow it well

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Thanks for the advice. Thats the plan - to find a keeper while waiting for the licence application to go through. Sticking with one good strain sounds easier.

johnnynice said:

Maybe you should take a break from growing and learn the difference between to/too and your/you're. Also you probably shouldn't be on this site until you turn 19

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You make me smile skip .

IF you want to see potency differences, you should visit a few cannabis test lab web sites. Many of them post listings of the various strains tested. While this will also show multiple growers, it can give you a decent idea of the range of potency that can be seen from various genetics.

I know you were specifically asking about phenotype differences, and you got several good answers about that already, so I just wanted to add another option.

Thundercat said:

IF you want to see potency differences, you should visit a few cannabis test lab web sites. Many of them post listings of the various strains tested. While this will also show multiple growers, it can give you a decent idea of the range of potency that can be seen from various genetics.

I know you were specifically asking about phenotype differences, and you got several good answers about that already, so I just wanted to add another option.

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Any specific websites you'd recommend? I've mostly been on wikileaf to see the thc%'s of different strains

Iron Labs is a place in Michigan I've checked out before. I would just do a google search for cannabis test labs.

Khyber420 said:

I hope so, last I looked at the regulations they archived the section on starting material and the one time exemption and put up a note saying "revised information is being developed and will be available shortly" (something along those lines). I read that as they are going to close that option and force micros to by shitty genetics from existing LPs. I guarantee Cannabis is going to go the way of Monsanto, genetic patents and big GMO within 20 years.

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Wtf is “big GMO”?

I don’t want to go back to chewing on teosinte, I prefer sweet corn..

Selective breeding creates “GMO’s” through trait selection instead of gene editing, which is what most of the modern cultivars are. Heavily worked lines.

So what I THINK you’re trying to say is that you think it’s weird to insert fish genes into rice and that you don’t have any problem with the general food we eat, or with selective breeding which is just slower genetic editing.

The non GMO label in America means nothing, there is no oversight. Anyone can buy the label if they have the money. Additionally, due to our food transport and sorting systems, there is a 100% chance that you are unknowingly ingesting GMO foods.