Possible nitrogen deficiency

greasemonkeymann

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Its hardly innacurate though is it, unless you want chemical nitrogen bud when you harvest, you have to cut right back on N. You dont need anywhere near the amount as you do in veg. I would never tell anyone to keep giving the same amount of nitrogen in flower as veg thats just wrong.
And as for gettin riled about your comment, its just you came across as a bit of a cannabis snob pulling me up on something because of the way I worded it. But no hard feelings after reading your replyI dont think that is the case. So im going to spark a big amnesia haze and start watching breaking bad again from series 1 .
it's all good brother. My bad if I came across as a snob, certainly wasn't intended, i'm NOT a know-it-all, nor do I claim to be. My way isn't better than anyone elses, just is my preference, look food tastes, or the women I prefer..
BUT, it's crucial to have a good amount of nitrogen in your soil at all times.
I have seen many grows that are grown beginning to end with a 5/5/5 type of nutrient.
Especially that amnesia haze you are running man, try giving those sativa some nitrogen all the way till the end.
Wise old grower said, in regards to nitrogen, "if the plant is putting ANYTHING together that is GREEN, it needs nitrogen"
Probably important to note that I think you are a hydro guy, right? So we grow differently anyways.
I'm just a simply old organic farmer.
However, I do stand by my statement, nitrogen is needed, in fairly large amounts too.
I'm not positive on this statement, but I think overall, that nitrogen may be needed in similar, if not higher, amounts than phosphorus and potassium, during all stages.
THAT I could be wrong on, but I KNOW it's needed quite a lot.
primarily my statement was geared more to warning new growers of the BS 0-20-20 type flowering nutes...
 

hells canyon genetics

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I'm not positive on this statement, but I think overall, that nitrogen may be needed in similar, if not higher, amounts than phosphorus and potassium, during all stages.
THAT I could be wrong on, but I KNOW it's needed quite a lot.

id agree with what your saying here well on the whole post im all organic some times to a fault in organic soil needs N all the way through flower to stay happy its about keeping the microorganisms happy as an organic grower I feed my beneficial organisms in turn they feed my soil then the soil feeds the plants so in my garden its all about keeping the microorganisms happy and they need lots of N for food
 

lfc89

Member
it's all good brother. My bad if I came across as a snob, certainly wasn't intended, i'm NOT a know-it-all, nor do I claim to be. My way isn't better than anyone elses, just is my preference, look food tastes, or the women I prefer..
BUT, it's crucial to have a good amount of nitrogen in your soil at all times.
I have seen many grows that are grown beginning to end with a 5/5/5 type of nutrient.
Especially that amnesia haze you are running man, try giving those sativa some nitrogen all the way till the end.
Wise old grower said, in regards to nitrogen, "if the plant is putting ANYTHING together that is GREEN, it needs nitrogen"
Probably important to note that I think you are a hydro guy, right? So we grow differently anyways.
I'm just a simply old organic farmer.
However, I do stand by my statement, nitrogen is needed, in fairly large amounts too.
I'm not positive on this statement, but I think overall, that nitrogen may be needed in similar, if not higher, amounts than phosphorus and potassium, during all stages.
THAT I could be wrong on, but I KNOW it's needed quite a lot.
primarily my statement was geared more to warning new growers of the BS 0-20-20 type flowering nutes...
Its all good bro I grow hydro and soil mate. It really is each to their own, there are 100s of different nute regimins that will work just aswel as each other, nitrogen being one of THEE most important nutrient to a cannabis plant.
And as you said anything that is green needs nitrogen, the nitrogen in your soil is directly linked to the chlorophyl and amino acids in your plants. But holy shit ive tasted some down right nasty crackly chemical N bud before and its raw. I personally stop N at week 4/5 of flower depending on what shes lookin like. But like I said each to their own if it works for you who gives a diddly what anyone else thinks?
 

Strocat

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dude they look fine to me, I also am doing my 1st grow with nirvanas auto bubbleicious and 10 days into flowering my buds look alot like yours in development and i have lower yellowing and dying off leaves. Im giving it only dyna gro bloom which is a 3 on the N scale so it still gets small ammount of N .. the plant is just getting to the point to where its gonna die off and have ripe nugs.. autoflowers done in 8 weeks you gotta understand when it 1st starts flowering its basically lived 1/2 its life. I think the leaves look normal. Im also happy to see this grow as I have one seed of big buddah blue cheese automatic and thats what im growing when my bubbleicious gets done.

I think all is well with your plant. Mine is in a 3.5 gallon container with 60/40 soil/perlite mix and I only have to water every 4-5 days.
 

hells canyon genetics

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You have done well being wrong twice in 1 page tbh, the yellowing
why dont you reread this therad I dident say anything about over watering or de leafing the plant hes got 2 old fan leafs that are yellow and your making a big deal about it
ive given you plenty of time to right your wrong you called me out for 2 things that I did not say you probably shouldn't be giving advice if you cant admit that your wrong and have no clue what your talking about
 

R1b3n4

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you were wrong, 1st comment you made was that he his plants couldnt be N def as they were too dark, well guess what, he had an N def so you were wrong

Then you followed up with " its only a couple of fan leaves dont worry about it", again completely bollocks advice as "just a couple of fan leaves" is obviously the start of a problem/def so you SHOULD be worrying about it/fixing it/looking into it etc

Half the problem on sites like these is ppl like you jumping in to give opinions when you have no clue what you are on about and thus potentially leading someone to fuck up a crop with your advice
 

hells canyon genetics

Well-Known Member
you were wrong, 1st comment you made was that he his plants couldnt be N def as they were too dark, well guess what, he had an N def so you were wrong

Then you followed up with " its only a couple of fan leaves dont worry about it", again completely bollocks advice as "just a couple of fan leaves" is obviously the start of a problem/def so you SHOULD be worrying about it/fixing it/looking into it etc

Half the problem on sites like these is ppl like you jumping in to give opinions when you have no clue what you are on about and thus potentially leading someone to fuck up a crop with your advice
according to what you cartoon plant deficiencies guide hahaha from the cartoon pics it could of been 10+ different things
you called me out over stuff I dident say and your still not man enough to admit it
 

Harvest92

New Member
image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg Hahahaha LOVE IT !!

Guys , all of you , thanks for the help !! Being a first grow, I'm just constantly trying to 'fix' what may or may not be broken !!!

Update....

Last feeding 2 days ago (Day 35/week 6)

.5 ml/ L liquid ice
2ml/L Fish mix
2ml/ L Bio bizz Bloom
.5ml/L Bloombastic

The feed previous to above .... Was the exact same , only 2.5ml/L of Fish mix and 1ml/L of bloom ...
The decrease of Fish mix , was due to entering heavy flowerings on week 6 and everywhere says to lower it and introduce bloom Stonger now ... If I want the most out of these girls!!!

Anyways.......

The yellowing seems to still be moving up the plant, but I'm unsure as to how quick it should move ?? So I don't know if I'm helping ....
Plus there is some purplish under some of the branches off the main stem .... ?

Not sure what 'cartoon' description to go with ? Hahaha :D again guys !!


THANKS SO MUCH !!! I appreciate every response !!!

Happy cultivating

Harvest!!
 
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Harvest92

New Member
harvest 92 I just wanted to give ya props your plants look good especially for a first time grower you should be able to pull a nice harvest off of those
Thanks dude :D thats a confidence booster :D hopefully get some fresh bud...all i want is something fresh and full of whatever the fuck I put in there :D
 

Harvest92

New Member
dude they look fine to me, I also am doing my 1st grow with nirvanas auto bubbleicious and 10 days into flowering my buds look alot like yours in development and i have lower yellowing and dying off leaves. Im giving it only dyna gro bloom which is a 3 on the N scale so it still gets small ammount of N .. the plant is just getting to the point to where its gonna die off and have ripe nugs.. autoflowers done in 8 weeks you gotta understand when it 1st starts flowering its basically lived 1/2 its life. I think the leaves look normal. Im also happy to see this grow as I have one seed of big buddah blue cheese automatic and thats what im growing when my bubbleicious gets done.

I think all is well with your plant. Mine is in a 3.5 gallon container with 60/40 soil/perlite mix and I only have to water every 4-5 days.
Sweet man :D hoping that the bad ones, are just die-offs and nothing too serious... just worried about the yellow creepin up my baby girl :P love and attention!!! thats all they need.......just not too much :P
 
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